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Mycroft Holmes posted:p-80s show up, but i dont think b36s do B-36 is definitely in the database but idk how many groups show up with it or can upgrade
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The B-36 didn't actually go into production until 1948 and WitP only goes to '46, right? I guess if the war was still on the program could have been accelerated but not by THAT much.
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   I diverted that last task force destined for Manus to another base. They announce their arrival.  Apparently this place us being used as a sub base!  The men go ashore with losses.  Before being driven off by that PT boat!  There is the normal combat above Rabaul.  They lose some bombers.  Make that a lot of bombers.   A nice day in the air.  Curse that sub!  And here is the location of Operation Silk Road.   1945. My empire lies in ruins.   The Allied advance is relentless, I lose base after base.  My air losses are catastrophic and irreplaceable.  The Army is a mere remanent of what it was.   The Navy is..... Wait.... Sorry guys! I was reading the wrong bit of the graphs! Things are looking pretty good, and I wonder what the Allies can do to us in 1945!
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Crazycryodude posted:The B-36 didn't actually go into production until 1948 and WitP only goes to '46, right? I guess if the war was still on the program could have been accelerated but not by THAT much. I was thinking of the B-32, the B-36 would be hilarious but isn't in the game. Maybe some crazy modder could add it into the scenarios where Japan gets G5N and G8N squadrons
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B-36 had its first flight in ‘46, not that the game could model it but I imagine American doctrine would be trying to find the farthest flying planes possible
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So, what is the new place you're invading for Grey? And congrats for going on the offensive as Japan in 1945!
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I wonder how long the war would have to go for the US to accept a negotiated peace.
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Depends from the Soviets. If they said no then US would probably start quiet peace talks shortly after German surrender.
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Jonny Nox posted:What about Shinden or Shūsui or Shinryū on the Japanese side? I believe the J7W Shinden can be built and operated in the default scenario without too much difficulty. The Nakajima Kikka is in the database, but you either need to play in the variant scenario that makes it earlier to get to, or you play with the relaxed R&D rules and invest heavily into it if you want to use it through '45. Same goes with the J8M Shusui. I don't know if the Shinryu is in the game, but the Ohka definitely is.
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Okay, after several years I'm finally going to ask-- what does "Allied/Japanese AI score" mean vs "My Allied/Japanese score" mean. I haven't been able to wrap my head around it this whole time.
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It's a comparison with how the scores progressed in the previous game, where Grey played the allies.
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  Manus is bombed once more. Wave after wave hits the island.  They still have planes to hit Rabaul as well.  We can do something about those though.  It's a steady stream of kills.  I send in the troops again.  Pretty much your bog standard day at the moment.
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I wonder if the technological exchanges between the Germans and Japanese have seen the Germans asking for the blueprints to the Zero considering that it's emerged as the world's premier heavy bomber interceptor.
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Flavius Aetass posted:Okay, after several years I'm finally going to ask-- what does "Allied/Japanese AI score" mean vs "My Allied/Japanese score" mean. I haven't been able to wrap my head around it this whole time. "My Allied" and "Japanese AI" is the setup from the old game, "My Japanese" and "Allied AI" are the current game. In other words, the dotted lines are how the various numbers were in the previous game years ago when Grey played the Allies. The solid lines are the numbers for this current game. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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Is there a game that plays out a continuation of ww2 where the allies team up with the defeated axis Powers and fight Russia following the German surrender? I know that parts of germany was expecting that as well as some of the top American and British commanders. That is an interesting what if scenario.
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Donkringel posted:Is there a game that plays out a continuation of ww2 where the allies team up with the defeated axis Powers and fight Russia following the German surrender? I know that parts of germany was expecting that as well as some of the top American and British commanders. That is an interesting what if scenario. Hearts of Iron 2.
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Patton in Flames, computer version expected 2069
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Was there anyone in the Allied command structure who genuinely believed a Western Allies + Germany vs Soviets was plausible? Like I know Churchill asked for Unthinkable to be planned out, but everything I've ever read suggests that everyone responded with "yeah no that's a terrible idea".
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PittTheElder posted:Was there anyone in the Allied command structure who genuinely believed a Western Allies + Germany vs Soviets was plausible? Like I know Churchill asked for Unthinkable to be planned out, but everything I've ever read suggests that everyone responded with "yeah no that's a terrible idea". Harry S. Truman in 1941 posted:“If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.”
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A random Senator half-joking about how he doesn't like either the Soviets or the Nazis in 1941 is hardly the actual military thinking they could actually go to war with the USSR in 1945. Patton having an insatiable murder-boner for the idea of exterminating Slavs notwithstanding, anyways.
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PittTheElder posted:Was there anyone in the Allied command structure who genuinely believed a Western Allies + Germany vs Soviets was plausible? Like I know Churchill asked for Unthinkable to be planned out, but everything I've ever read suggests that everyone responded with "yeah no that's a terrible idea". Not really. There were people on the Allied side who played a parlor game of, "Wouldn't it be nice if we could..." but it would've been a monstrous betrayal and Eisenhower thought that it was completely crazy and stupid so it was a nonstarter.
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Grey Hunter posted:Edit, wrong thread! I knew this day would come.
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Crazycryodude posted:A random Senator half-joking about how he doesn't like either the Soviets or the Nazis in 1941 is hardly the actual military thinking they could actually go to war with the USSR in 1945. Patton having an insatiable murder-boner for the idea of exterminating Slavs notwithstanding, anyways. Truman was a random senator? And he certainly wasn't half-joking. At best, he was powerless to have his way.
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  They continue to bomb Manus.  And Rabaul.  That was an especially dull day.
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Mans posted:Truman was a random senator? At that point? Yes. He wasn't considered an especially powerful or influential member of the Senate.
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At least 50% of the reason Truman got the Vice Presidential nomination in '44 was because he wasn't Henry Wallace.
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2 January 1944 US land-based air sinks Japan's escort No. 138 near Luzon.
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Mans posted:Truman was a random senator? In 1941, yes, he was.
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It was even less than that because he was considered a small timey bumpkin way over his head and only in Washington due to machine politics.
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There were probably a few senior officers in the Allied chain of command who considered what to do if they decided to hit the Soviets after Germany collapsed. I'd need to see a lot of 1st hand sources to believe anyone on the Allied side in charge of anything bigger than a battalion considered teaming up with the loving Nazis to fight the USSR.
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And then imagine newly rebadged German unit fighting beside French, Czech or Polish ones. "Friendly fire" wouldn't describe it.
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If there was any real appetite for fighting the Soviets directly they wouldn't have given the Soviets all those trucks and tanks.
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Ron Jeremy posted:It was even less than that because he was considered a small timey bumpkin way over his head and only in Washington due to machine politics. This is exactly what he was. Roosevelt should've kept Wallace.
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it's a bit late but GREY don't expand light industry to fix a supply shortage it makes it far far worse. LI produces 1 supply per turn for a resource cost. To actually add a new LI point to a hex costs 100 supply to create the industry and another 1000 to get it repaired to functioning. So basically you have 1100 days where you haven't actually made a profit on the supply points you spent. It's never, ever, ever worth expanding or repairing LI points. HI is a bit different but it's still over a year before you break even and it eats a lot of resource and fuel to do so. Same for aircraft factories, the biggest eater of supply is air factory expansion as every factory point costs the same 1100 supply to bring online. The biggest supply drain otherwise is probably your ever expanding army. I'd recommend blanket turning off replacements to all ground units and only having ones actually on the front draw new devices, especially with China in the state it is. mllaneza posted:There were probably a few senior officers in the Allied chain of command who considered what to do if they decided to hit the Soviets after Germany collapsed. I'd need to see a lot of 1st hand sources to believe anyone on the Allied side in charge of anything bigger than a battalion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable Churchill bein Churchill. To characterise it as a 'probable disaster' is being insanely kind. Saros fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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   Something happens in Burma!   Their Superforts do something!  Liberators continue to be easy prey.  They can fight back occasionally though.  I'm kinda waiting for the carriers to refill their strike craft at the moment.  I want some fresh kills on here,
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