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Zorblack
Oct 8, 2008

And with strange aeons, even death may eat a burrito with goons.
Lipstick Apathy
It has been a really long time since I dropped in this thread. Is everyone still pretty much doing transcription work in here?

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Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010

Shima Honnou posted:

That's gotta be a new thing 'cause I don't know it. I haven't picked up DT work in some time, not since early spring this year.

Not really, they always expected it of everyone in case you needed to fix work. And if you say you can take work over the weekend well if you said you could take Saturday work due for Sunday and they assign that amount at midnight or whatever well you said you would do it. Their expectations have always been a bit skewed.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Slightly Used Cake posted:

Not really, they always expected it of everyone in case you needed to fix work. And if you say you can take work over the weekend well if you said you could take Saturday work due for Sunday and they assign that amount at midnight or whatever well you said you would do it. Their expectations have always been a bit skewed.

Yeah but that's how they treat literally every day of the week.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008

Zorblack posted:

It has been a really long time since I dropped in this thread. Is everyone still pretty much doing transcription work in here?

Yes, but I went from 40 minute files I can do in two hours or less (unfortunately I think the show was finally canned after 5 seasons-they were really struggling for content and storylines) to tedious 100 minute files with constant talking through the whole thing and multiple speakers for 10 less cents a minute. Yay, being broke. At least they pay bi-monthly so I should survive a dumb trip to the casino.

Also applied at a temp staffing agency today. They didn't even give me a UA, so that's not looking good. Buds, a buncha contract bullshit sounding internet work does not do the best for your work history if you need to get a "real" job quickly. Unless you have charisma, which I don't.

Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010

thylacine posted:

Yes, but I went from 40 minute files I can do in two hours or less (unfortunately I think the show was finally canned after 5 seasons-they were really struggling for content and storylines) to tedious 100 minute files with constant talking through the whole thing and multiple speakers for 10 less cents a minute. Yay, being broke. At least they pay bi-monthly so I should survive a dumb trip to the casino.

Also applied at a temp staffing agency today. They didn't even give me a UA, so that's not looking good. Buds, a buncha contract bullshit sounding internet work does not do the best for your work history if you need to get a "real" job quickly. Unless you have charisma, which I don't.

It's all about how you frame it. You're a member of a team who is a self starter with excellent written communication skills and fantastic time management. You're also great at customer service since you're doing so much in the way of direct to customer relations. Also you're very well versed in the bulk of the Office suite, familiar with FTP sites, and have a strong research background. Say it with a smile and enthusiasm. Oh and of course you have great professionalism since you've had to honor your NDAs for so long. Look at you, you awesome worker bee. :-)

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008

Slightly Used Cake posted:

It's all about how you frame it. You're a member of a team who is a self starter with excellent written communication skills and fantastic time management. You're also great at customer service since you're doing so much in the way of direct to customer relations. Also you're very well versed in the bulk of the Office suite, familiar with FTP sites, and have a strong research background. Say it with a smile and enthusiasm. Oh and of course you have great professionalism since you've had to honor your NDAs for so long. Look at you, you awesome worker bee. :-)

Thanks, that'll actually help make my resume look like less poo poo.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
Anybody worked for VSI?

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/tfr/d/tranion/6728338772.html

They say they "start out at .75 and move you up as you gain experience with our way of working. So I hope it's not some dumb inane poo poo like those comedians in cars, hip-hop, or what not. Anyway, just posting if anybody else is interested, they got back to me fast.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
^^ they had weird formatting, probably should've taken it on but oh well.

UNIDENTIFIED WHITE MALE 24: I'd just like to take a moment to thank my secretary for recording this very important meeting with 500 people in the audience and all of the senior management of a billion dollar corporation on her phone, in the back of the room next to an air conditioner, while whispering to the people around her. I'm sure the important things we say won't blend into the background and the poor sap who chose to transcribe it will correctly guess what the hell we, and the 50 other white males asking questions who sound exactly alike do to the incredibly loud hum and background noise, are saying.

In good news though I did get a coccyx pillow, I'm almost done with this file, and my tailbone does not hurt like hell after typing for hours anymore. Now I just need a new foot pedal because it's annoying only having the right and left buttons working correctly. I've remapped play to the left and I have to rotate my foot 80 degrees to hit the reverse button.

gently caress, I've applied for 8 jobs and can't even get a call back from a call center for gently caress's sake. Guess Walmart is next.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
Dehumanize yourself and join Amazon. Pretty much every facility will be ramping up hiring for Christmas, and I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone I like in there: get out of the default role as quickly as possible both because it's boring as gently caress and also because people with no other skills are the ones who get culled during the ramp down after Christmas.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
They closed the nearest facility in Kansas years ago 'cause of having to pay sales tax I think. Fedex is hiring though. Haven't tried there yet.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
This is a great one, thankfully he doesn't talk much, but it's mostly phonetically describing what a developmentally disabled person is "saying." God drat.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
Lightkey is a pretty good text prediction software. Works better than Typing Assistant and doesn't cost $120. I have saved 10 minutes of my life by using it (it has metrics for how often you use it.)

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
How many of you guys are making a living wage off strictly online stuff? I'd like to hear from you how you do it if it's not going to cut into your pie. I've been reading this thread for years, and as cool as tape writing sounds, I don't know if that would be sustainable for me.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Firstborn posted:

How many of you guys are making a living wage off strictly online stuff? I'd like to hear from you how you do it if it's not going to cut into your pie. I've been reading this thread for years, and as cool as tape writing sounds, I don't know if that would be sustainable for me.

Find a Kazmeyer post and hit the question mark button. He answers this exact question like every 5 pages. Basically, diversify your client base.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
Probably depends on where you live and how much you can stand it. Now, if you come up with some amazing product and can sell it, yeah, you can make a lot of money working from home. Or, you're a good writer like that one person in here that's making lots of money writing blog posts (but that probably requires networking and not being a grumpy hermit.)

Transcription? Eh, kinda. I'm getting paid $1/minute now and it takes an hour to do 15-20 minutes generally for this type of work which is mostly research interviews, meetings, etc. with a few TV things thrown in - 20% in taxes. So, figure that up for your area and know you're not gonna get X amount of work everyday unless you have 2+ clients to choose from every day.

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

I'm pulling in ~50K annually right now from blog post ghostwriting, but I can't really give specific tips because my primary gig literally fell into my lap when a content mill client decided to cyber-stalk me enough to get my email and contract me outside the mill. If that hadn't happened, either I would have had to dive headlong into a ton of networking and self-promotion, or I would have abandoned this career field years ago.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Firstborn posted:

How many of you guys are making a living wage off strictly online stuff? I'd like to hear from you how you do it if it's not going to cut into your pie. I've been reading this thread for years, and as cool as tape writing sounds, I don't know if that would be sustainable for me.

I used to do between 10k and 18k yearly (depending on the year, 2017 loving sucked) but that much sitting was starting to gently caress my back. I still do it now and then but now mostly work in an Amazon routing center as my main thing. Between DT and a few others you probably could but it isn't necessarily easy.

Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010

Firstborn posted:

How many of you guys are making a living wage off strictly online stuff? I'd like to hear from you how you do it if it's not going to cut into your pie. I've been reading this thread for years, and as cool as tape writing sounds, I don't know if that would be sustainable for me.

I normally manage about $24k Canadian between all my clients but I also have an awesome offset of a disability tax credit so personal circumstances totally make a difference. Next year has a chance to be significantly better, but like most of these guys have said I have one awesome client that head hunted me a bit. Really it's hard to say, completely depends on whether or not you can build a decent skillset and reputation.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Firstborn posted:

How many of you guys are making a living wage off strictly online stuff? I'd like to hear from you how you do it if it's not going to cut into your pie. I've been reading this thread for years, and as cool as tape writing sounds, I don't know if that would be sustainable for me.

Depends on what you mean by "strictly online" stuff.

Around 2/3 of my income currently comes from freelance development work that I do strictly as a remote worker and the rest comes from the kind of stuff that people in this thread usually talk about and that's been true for about two years now. I don't do transcription, but I do rating for Lionbridge, blog writing on Writers Domain, and some light blog ghostwriting for private clients. Altogether I make about $23-24k/year from those gigs.

WD is far and away the best money:time ratio since I can usually bang out an article in like 10-20 minutes at most and that ends up working out to a pay of around $45/hour. Coincidentally, I'm usually able to grab three articles in a day so it's also like $45/day, although my average ends up being a little lower than that since I'm not super consistent about waking early to grab the morning article. Pay for my private clients is better from a strict $/word perspective, but a lot worse when it comes to $/hour. Altogether I don't (and couldn't, thanks to my other work) spend more than 20-25 hours per week on this stuff.

edit- So, I guess it depends on what you actually consider a living wage to be. My experience with content mills other than WD was absolutely abysmal and it's hard to imagine any of them really being worth it, but I'm out of that scene entirely other than WD so I don't know the current situation. With WD, you can pretty easily make $10-12k/year working drastically less than even average part time hours. It's great from a pure hourly pay perspective, but terrible in terms of absolute income since you won't be able to scale much beyond that.

Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Dec 18, 2018

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Paradoxish posted:

WD is far and away the best money:time ratio since I can usually bang out an article in like 10-20 minutes at most and that ends up working out to a pay of around $45/hour. Coincidentally, I'm usually able to grab three articles in a day so it's also like $45/day, although my average ends up being a little lower than that since I'm not super consistent about waking early to grab the morning article. Pay for my private clients is better from a strict $/word perspective, but a lot worse when it comes to $/hour. Altogether I don't (and couldn't, thanks to my other work) spend more than 20-25 hours per week on this stuff.

edit- So, I guess it depends on what you actually consider a living wage to be. My experience with content mills other than WD was absolutely abysmal and it's hard to imagine any of them really being worth it, but I'm out of that scene entirely other than WD so I don't know the current situation. With WD, you can pretty easily make $10-12k/year working drastically less than even average part time hours. It's great from a pure hourly pay perspective, but terrible in terms of absolute income since you won't be able to scale much beyond that.

Hey fellow WD writer.

Did you get any warnings about renewing articles past the 8 hour time limit? I was doing it pretty regularly until they emailed me and told me to stop doing it. Officially killed my motivation to get articles at 4am and write them in the afternoon.

Some of us think it was to get people to write more On Site Blogs.

I’m averaging about 5 per day over the past 30 days. It’s fantastic income for doing a task that adds absolutely nothing to society in any meaningful way.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Astro7x posted:

Hey fellow WD writer.

Did you get any warnings about renewing articles past the 8 hour time limit? I was doing it pretty regularly until they emailed me and told me to stop doing it. Officially killed my motivation to get articles at 4am and write them in the afternoon.

Some of us think it was to get people to write more On Site Blogs.

I’m averaging about 5 per day over the past 30 days. It’s fantastic income for doing a task that adds absolutely nothing to society in any meaningful way.

I haven't gotten anything yet, but I don't do it an excessive amount either. Usually I write the morning article around 10-11 while I'm doing other work, so I only end up refreshing it if I can't get around to it for some reason. Kind of depressing to know that they'll probably tell me to cut it out soon.

And yeah, it's shocking how much you can make with WD by doing literally nothing of value. I wish I could reliably pull five articles, but it's rare I manage more than 3/day. Which, to be perfectly honest, is fine with me. I'm not going to complain about a little less than $45 for less than an hour of "work."

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
I've been trying to do 4 a day, and have averaged 4.75 per day this year, so most days I am getting 5 or more in.

It's just such stupid easy money, I can't help but feel these article tasks are going to go away sometime soon and I'll miss out on so much easy income. I have looked into Writers Access, but it seems like people actually ready the articles. The at home reviewers on WD get $1 per article reviewed, and last night I had an article reviewed in under a minute from when I submitted it. I doubt people are even really reading what we submit very closely, because they are in a rush to review as much as they can at a dollar an article

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Astro7x posted:

I've been trying to do 4 a day, and have averaged 4.75 per day this year, so most days I am getting 5 or more in.

It's just such stupid easy money, I can't help but feel these article tasks are going to go away sometime soon and I'll miss out on so much easy income. I have looked into Writers Access, but it seems like people actually ready the articles. The at home reviewers on WD get $1 per article reviewed, and last night I had an article reviewed in under a minute from when I submitted it. I doubt people are even really reading what we submit very closely, because they are in a rush to review as much as they can at a dollar an article

Oh yeah, you are absolutely right about the editors basically not reading anything. This morning I pulled a keyword on a topic that I'm pretty intimately familiar with, so I ended up making GBS threads out something like 850 words in about 10 minutes. Approved not even a minute after I hit the submit button. There's no way that editor did anything more than run the article through Grammarly and maybe skim over it to make sure I didn't just write grammatically correct gibberish.

edit- Honestly, I'm pretty sure the most difficult part of writing for WD is trying to avoid accidental self-plagiarism. Every time I pull a familiar keyword I'm afraid that I'm accidentally writing the same article I did last time.

Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Dec 18, 2018

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Paradoxish posted:

edit- Honestly, I'm pretty sure the most difficult part of writing for WD is trying to avoid accidental self-plagiarism. Every time I pull a familiar keyword I'm afraid that I'm accidentally writing the same article I did last time.

I have 5,500 articles submitted under the current format, and I've never received a self plagiarism flag. That said, other forums I've visited have members that this is a huge problem with. I don't know what they are doing, but I can base on their forum writing that they are not great writers. So who knows.

What we know is that...
-There is an internal automated check for articles in the queue not yet reviewed against anything submitted. So if you accidentally submitted the same article twice, it will catch and reject it automatically.
-The reviewers get some sort of originality score in their dashboard when they open a task. It looks very similar to what I've seen used on sites like Paper Rater. I think like... one time I've had one of my articles show up with those very basic plagiarism checkers. But these spam blogs with existing work are probably not getting picked up because nobody visits them.
-If the article has a high amount of similar content flagged, they are then supposed to run it through the paid Copyscape to see what comes up. But only if it's flagged internally by the basic checker since it costs them money.

A good tool use use is the Copyscape compare two documents tool

http://www.copyscape.com/compare.php

If you have an article saved with a similar spin, run it through that. Jeremy once said that they are only concerned if there is 10% of similar 4 word phrases. I keep things below 5% and not have any 4 word phrases, and I have never had a problem.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
drat I should tried harder at writing I just hate the rejection over dumb poo poo.

Anyways, transcribing 911 calls sure is... a thing that I can say I've unfortunately done.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

thylacine posted:

drat I should tried harder at writing I just hate the rejection over dumb poo poo.

Anyways, transcribing 911 calls sure is... a thing that I can say I've unfortunately done.

If you still have a WD account, it's worth looking into again. There are frequent ups and downs with the reviewing process. When the new format started in 2014(?) there was a really rough transition where they rejecting articles over petty things. When new reviewers come in after the school year starts in the fall, you tend to see more 3s and revision requests over stupid poo poo. But for the most part... things go right through these days at 4 stars.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
My account expired years ago there unfortunately. At the time I was like, ah, don't really care to renew it. If this current transcription gig holds up and I don't screw it up I should do pretty good. Did 1,000 minutes in a two-week period last month. Of course I've also done 200 in the same period other weeks.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

thylacine posted:

My account expired years ago there unfortunately. At the time I was like, ah, don't really care to renew it. If this current transcription gig holds up and I don't screw it up I should do pretty good. Did 1,000 minutes in a two-week period last month. Of course I've also done 200 in the same period other weeks.

I don't think WD accounts ever expire. They let accounts remain inactive and pick up writing whenever you want.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Astro7x posted:

I have 5,500 articles submitted under the current format, and I've never received a self plagiarism flag. That said, other forums I've visited have members that this is a huge problem with. I don't know what they are doing, but I can base on their forum writing that they are not great writers. So who knows.

What we know is that...
-There is an internal automated check for articles in the queue not yet reviewed against anything submitted. So if you accidentally submitted the same article twice, it will catch and reject it automatically.
-The reviewers get some sort of originality score in their dashboard when they open a task. It looks very similar to what I've seen used on sites like Paper Rater. I think like... one time I've had one of my articles show up with those very basic plagiarism checkers. But these spam blogs with existing work are probably not getting picked up because nobody visits them.
-If the article has a high amount of similar content flagged, they are then supposed to run it through the paid Copyscape to see what comes up. But only if it's flagged internally by the basic checker since it costs them money.

A good tool use use is the Copyscape compare two documents tool

http://www.copyscape.com/compare.php

If you have an article saved with a similar spin, run it through that. Jeremy once said that they are only concerned if there is 10% of similar 4 word phrases. I keep things below 5% and not have any 4 word phrases, and I have never had a problem.

This is also really useful information. Thanks!

I'm not nearly as prolific as you are, but I've written around 1,500 articles total and never been flagged so I'm probably just being paranoid. At the same time, it's hard not to feel like I'm probably getting pretty close to previously written content on some of the more generic keywords. It's not something that keeps me up at night, just a nagging doubt whenever I'm submitting yet another article for some ridiculously broad attorney keyword or whatever.

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thylacine posted:

drat I should tried harder at writing I just hate the rejection over dumb poo poo.

Just agreeing with Astro here that almost everything I submit nowadays goes through at four stars almost immediately. There are sometimes streaks of 2-3 reviews at three stars every few months, but I think I can probably count on one hand the total number of times I've had an article sent back. Writing four star WD articles is an almost totally brain dead process once you get a grip on what the reviewers are looking for.

Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Dec 19, 2018

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Bamboo-Cushion-AS-SEEN/dp/B01NCI8C12

If your butt hurts I'd heartily recommend one of these. Got one a few months ago and no longer have pain in my tailbone while typing. The got 'em at Target for $20.

RoflcopterPilot
Mar 17, 2004
What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAP!
I scanned the OP and I didn't see this there, so apologies if I didn't look hard enough or if this is the wrong place. I remember in one of the past threads there was a primer on dropshipping. Does that still exist somewhere, or is dropshipping dead/scam/etc?

Everett False
Sep 28, 2006

Mopsy, I'm starting to question your medical credentials.

Wait--so is Writer's Domain worthwhile again? I dropped it after the new pricing structure because I'd previously been getting nothing but 5 stars and suddenly any work I managed to get was getting rejected.

Is there a trick to getting work/keywords, or do you just kind of have to check in intermittently and hope for the best?

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:

Wait--so is Writer's Domain worthwhile again? I dropped it after the new pricing structure because I'd previously been getting nothing but 5 stars and suddenly any work I managed to get was getting rejected.

Is there a trick to getting work/keywords, or do you just kind of have to check in intermittently and hope for the best?

Did you drop it when it went from the 200 word blogs to the 400 word ones that require some effort in March of 2014? Or when they lowered the price on the 400 word ones?

That 2014 transition was rough, since the reviewers didn't even know what WD wanted. You'd get really lovely revisions back then over nitpicky things. Like writing a How To article and providing a list of tools, but having it rejected for not writing "You can buy any of these items from a local home improvement store", because the fictional reader may be confused about where they can find a hammer. You occasionally get stupid poo poo like that these days, but it's incredibly rare.

Now it is pretty easy going if you know what they are looking for. They changed things up from requiring reviewers give you a detailed review and critique of your articles to stock comments for 3/4/5 stars. Looking at any example of an accepted article is enough to let you know what they want. The at home reviewers are literally getting paid $1 to review your work, and they'll rush through an article in 2-3 minutes so I don't even think they read them carefully. It's not uncommon for clear typos and grammatical errors to get through and still get 4 stars.

You can write articles all day that are like "3 reasons to do X" and then do an intro, three subheads with a paragraph each, and an outro with a call to action to visit a generic contractor for the keyword category.

Here is an example of a really basic article.
http://bpokporealty.com/2018/12/01/are-you-going-out-of-town-this-holiday-season-how-to-decrease-the-chances-of-your-pipes-freezing/
I have no idea why they wrote 489 words when they could have just not written an entire subhead/paragraph to get to 400, but whatever.

Article Drop Times are tricky. There are pretty much two drop times per day at 5am EST and 7pm EST (and this shifts an hour forward when Daylight Saving Time begins in March, so 6am/8pm) . The morning drop time can be very random. Sometimes I log in at 5:15am and they are there all at once, sometimes they trickly in through small batches between 5-6am, sometimes they drop at 5:40am. The evening one is more consistent, but goes faster since people are awake. There are also big drop days on the morning of the 1st and 25th where the article seem to trickle in over the course of an hour. And then you'll notice patterns in how keywords drop each month if you pay attention enough. Like there is a keyword for a video editing/color correction software that I use for my job, and I regularly find it in the evenings during the last few days of the month. The drops seem to be consistent on the same day/time each month. So for example... the evening of the 1st/2nd/3rd usually has barely anything, and you're lucky if you can get a single article, and the mornings on the 26th thru the end of the month don't usually have much at all either. You kind of have to observe each drop time and write down how big or small it is to predict future months.

Everett False
Sep 28, 2006

Mopsy, I'm starting to question your medical credentials.

It was when they lowered the prices—I was in school at the time so $20 for an easy 5-stars was worth it (there were so many keywords then that I could pick and choose), but having to heavily edit only to end up with $12 on the only article I could get that day was too frustrating. Of course, now I'm a graduate so at this point I'd probably take $5 if I could get it.

That's all really detailed and helpful information, thank you!

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

My wife just got her acceptance email from Rev. What's the general consensus regarding them? Worth it? Do they suck?

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
They pay like half of what Daily Transcription pays and DT already takes in new people. Maybe do it for a week and apply at DT? I hear REV sucks, so good luck.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

My wife just got her acceptance email from Rev. What's the general consensus regarding them? Worth it? Do they suck?

Pros: You can pick and choose jobs, they accept non-US people like me

Cons: Pay sucks, you have to work your way through a couple tiers to get first pick, unintelligible prison phonecalls - hundreds of them - for way too little money.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

monolithburger posted:

Pros: You can pick and choose jobs, they accept non-US people like me, their interface is nice.

Cons: Pay sucks, you have to work your way through a couple tiers to get first pick, unintelligible prison phonecalls - hundreds of them - for way too little money.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

monolithburger posted:

Pros: You can pick and choose jobs, they accept non-US people like me

Cons: Pay sucks, you have to work your way through a couple tiers to get first pick, unintelligible prison phonecalls - hundreds of them - for way too little money.

Yeah, my wife and I are in Canada, so I assume our options are limited, but DT works in Canada, doesn't it? Is there a superior Canadian alternative? I'd look around right now, but I'm at work.

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Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
DT works Canada and as I recall the exchange rate favors you still because they pay in USD.

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