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I'm not gonna bother reading that list, but I'm guessing a "conservative movie" basically means it doesn't have any obviously gay people and a good guy punches a bad guy.
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Ripoff posted:Noted conservative film “Black Panther”, about a king of a country realizing that the tradition of caring only for the people within his border and ignoring those suffering outside of it is a pretty lovely idea. Very conservative indeed, yeah. Are we talking about the movie where a monarchy sides with the CIA to destroy a revolutionary movement and the ending message is "hey the status quo is fine as long as ultrawealthy dictatorships pay for some more schools out of the goodness of their hearts"
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Dapper_Swindler posted:marines are the embassy guards. so he has probably been stationed at an embassy long enough to be a citizen of those countries. i feel pretty sure that there's an exception for foreign nationals working at embassies (which are on foreign soil) to prevent them all of them from easily becoming citizens of places like the UK that are pretty hard to get citizenship
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eke out posted:can someone explain how this guy is a citizen of the UK, ireland, canada, and america lmao If you have irish ancestors you can get irish citizenship, if you have irish citizenship it's easy(er) to get UK citizenship, maybe he just chained them.
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Nothus posted:There's a big difference between her Kansas City metro district and the rest of the state. She should still make the attempt. I think Kansas is sick of Republican austerity bullshit, and if she runs a smart, disciplined campaign and speaks to local issues wherever she goes, she could at the very least make a Beto-esque effort that would force Republicans to spend time, money, and effort there.
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Sir Lemming posted:I'm not gonna bother reading that list, but I'm guessing a "conservative movie" basically means it doesn't have any obviously gay people and a good guy punches a bad guy. Or anything Kevin Sorbo makes now about how evil liberals want to kill talking about religion in college
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CascadeBeta posted:I just had a thought: Would Trump try to call the 2020 election illegitimate if the Dem candidate wins by less than what Trump did? Trump won with 304 electoral votes, and the most likely outcome I see in 2020 is Dem's picking WI, MI and PA back up again while losing Florida for 278 EVs. Barring flips in AZ, IA or FL, I think that's the most likely road. his approval rating is underwater in arizona (-2) and iowa (-7) and is even in ohio so it's possible he loses em all.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:If you have irish ancestors you can get irish citizenship, if you have irish citizenship it's easy(er) to get UK citizenship, maybe he just chained them. yeah that makes sense, maybe both parents were dual citizens and he started with two plus had an easier path for the other two still i feel like the chances that this guy is Actually A Spy are pretty good
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CascadeBeta posted:I just had a thought: Would Trump try to call the 2020 election illegitimate if the Dem candidate wins by less than what Trump did? Trump won with 304 electoral votes, and the most likely outcome I see in 2020 is Dem's picking WI, MI and PA back up again while losing Florida for 278 EVs. Barring flips in AZ, IA or FL, I think that's the most likely road. Yes, but no one but Trump would care, and Trump himself is certainly in no position to do anything other than whine impotently on Twitter, much as he did after November 2018. Personally, I'd like him to try and barricade himself in the White House--the sight of the Capitol Police dragging his piss-covered carcass kicking and screaming out of the building would warm the cockles of my heart.
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CascadeBeta posted:I just had a thought: Would Trump try to call the 2020 election illegitimate if the Dem candidate wins by less than what Trump did? Trump won with 304 electoral votes, and the most likely outcome I see in 2020 is Dem's picking WI, MI and PA back up again while losing Florida for 278 EVs. Barring flips in AZ, IA or FL, I think that's the most likely road. this kind of discussion has come up repeatedly in here and it comes down to the fact that what Trump thinks about an election doesn't loving matter at all, he can call it whatever he wants
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Groovelord Neato posted:his approval rating is underwater in arizona (-2) and iowa (-7) and is even in ohio so it's possible he loses em all. OH went something like +20 to GOP in 2018 so I don't think that's a possible flip. AZ and IA are possible but not likely IMO, but IA is more likely the longer the tariffs stay in place. Winning AZ/IA does open up the possibility of those two plus PA and losing WI/MI somehow is a comedy hell option which results in a 269 EV tie. Picking up FL plus AZ/IA/PA/WI/MI results in a 326 stomping which would be so cathartic though. Fingers crossed!
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CascadeBeta posted:OH went something like +20 to GOP in 2018 so I don't think that's a possible flip. brown won reelection and obama carried it twice. https://twitter.com/oldmanweldon/status/1081212972226174977
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CascadeBeta posted:OH went something like +20 to GOP in 2018 so I don't think that's a possible flip. AZ and IA are possible but not likely IMO, but IA is more likely the longer the tariffs stay in place. The tariffs are going to start hurting a lot of people in the midwest hard this year, fwiw.
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Bakanogami posted:I'd say it's pretty loving high. At the very least he definitely has shown that he believes all the conspiracy theories about the deep state, and that all the suffering federal workers are democrats out to get him. If this lasts more than another month or so, desperate Federal employees will literally be storming the White House.
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The DOW has been crashing everyday the Demoncrats were elected.
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I'm not goona toxx on it or anything, but from people I talk to in the suburbs/boonies of PA, the Trump train has stalled pretty hard. PGH and Philly are obvious middle fingers towards this administration, but as we saw with the special elections in our coal country, the last election, and Trump's magical fantasy lie that west PA would be a booming steel manufacturing power again, it's not going well for T-Bagz in PA, aside from the small CHUD base.
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I would not count on Florida in any EV calculus you are doing. We are full of racists who just selected Ron DeSantis over Andrew Gillum and Rick Scott over Bill Nelson, in a blue-wave year. Like yeah, it'd be nice to have Florida. But Democrats should assume we are a red state from now on when crafting a campaign strategy.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Trump is the cheese from Wacky Delly. Seeing these two posts almost next to each other was too surreal and actually made me laugh out loud all alone lol
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Nonsense posted:The DOW has been crashing everyday the Demoncrats were elected. I'm curious why you feel it was important to regale us with this scorching hot take from Breitbart
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Skippy McPants posted:It does have a pretty big theme of incrementalism and favoring the status quo over radical action. Hardly an alt-right masterpiece, but there's this push in conservative circles to try and lay claim to every remotely progressive or representational piece of media they can lay hands on in the hopes it'll piss off the SJWs. This is not to mention that if you look at how the universe works in the MCU and how audience expectations of what that world looks like means that Wakanda can never fix race relations in the US. There is a fundamentally conservative underpinning to the worldbuilding that isn’t even really political, but has political implications. They can never show a world where black people are truly liberated as the background to MCU movies because it would have to be what the whole movie is about; you can’t have a world that alien and have it go uncommented. But also see the way that superhero movies do this thing where they have a villain who is completely correct in their analysis of what is wrong (Wakanda has absolutely no racial solidarity with black people despite knowing explicitly within the universe that they are oppressed) but need to make them a crazed power hungry rear end to undermine the need for radical change. Also monarchies are by their nature repressive and reactionary; who cleans the toilets in Wakanda?
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Nonsense posted:The DOW has been crashing everyday the Demoncrats were elected. it is currently up 550 pts
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enraged_camel posted:it is currently up 550 pts Yea but the Fed chair just said nothing again today so everyone is optimistic about no rate hikes! (There will be rate hikes)
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Mind_Taker posted:I would not count on Florida in any EV calculus you are doing. We are full of racists who just selected Ron DeSantis over Andrew Gillum and Rick Scott over Bill Nelson, in a blue-wave year. That's a strong bet, I think. Trump won it by just one point in 2016 so 2018 should have been a blowout, but it wasn't. It's safe to say that state is safely red.
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Mind_Taker posted:I would not count on Florida in any EV calculus you are doing. We are full of racists who just selected Ron DeSantis over Andrew Gillum and Rick Scott over Bill Nelson, in a blue-wave year. CascadeBeta posted:That's a strong bet, I think. Trump won it by just one point in 2016 so 2018 should have been a blowout, but it wasn't. It's safe to say that state is safely red. florida went nearly perfectly 50/50 and just reinfranchised 1.4M felons, please stop telling people to give up when we're in a period that desperately needs organization and engagement one democrat actually did win statewide office, for instance: our weed lobbyist agricultural commissioner who ran on more stringent gun licenses and legal weed (yes, the AgCom here controls both to greater or lesser extent)
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eke out posted:florida went nearly perfectly 50/50 and just reinfranchised 1.4M felons, please stop telling people to give up when we're in a period that desperately needs organization and engagement on the one hand, this is true on the other hand, it is florida, dude. come the gently caress on.
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Sir Lemming posted:I'm not gonna bother reading that list, but I'm guessing a "conservative movie" basically means it doesn't have any obviously gay people and a good guy punches a bad guy. I took at look at it, half expecting Death Wish to be on there, but was surprised it wasn't. But of course it had Black Panther, since conservatives can't help falling all over themselves declaring that movie one of theirs, and Halloween of all things because it apparently is a pro-gun/home defense movie...! I guess it was a real life cautionary tale and not a loving horror movie, who knew!
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I'm curious why you feel it was important to regale us with this scorching hot take from Breitbart It's nonsense.
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eke out posted:florida went nearly perfectly 50/50 and just reinfranchised 1.4M felons, please stop telling people to give up when we're in a period that desperately needs organization and engagement I'm not saying it's lost forever but the GOP is in prime position to turbofuck a lot of those people who just got voting rights back. It'll still be close but I don't think third time is the charm. I'd love to be wrong though.
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CascadeBeta posted:That's a strong bet, I think. Trump won it by just one point in 2016 so 2018 should have been a blowout, but it wasn't. It's safe to say that state is safely red. Florida is full of lovely old white racists, Venezuelan expats who think Democrats are all socialists, and other assorted chuds. There's a reason it was one of the only southern states where Trump's approval rating didn't fall deep into the red. Andrew Gillum was unfairly tarred with that stupid FBI investigation that ended up not implicating him in any way, but from what I understood, the DeSantis folks ran scores of ads using the words "Andrew Gillum" and "corrupt" in the same sentence and it influences the decision-making process of weak-minded people. As for that felon reenfranchisement thing, DeSantis will just slow-walk it to death. I have zero faith that it will actually ever happen.
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i dunno...if that had passed prior to 2016 florida would've gone clinton and they'd have a dem governor and senator. raze the villages to the ground is what i'm saying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Wz1KhdSRw
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Nonsense posted:The DOW has been crashing everyday the Demoncrats were elected. It's currently up 600 today. Perfectly normal stock market fluctuations. Didn't it fluctuate this much in 2008 right before the crash?
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eke out posted:florida went nearly perfectly 50/50 and just reinfranchised 1.4M felons, please stop telling people to give up when we're in a period that desperately needs organization and engagement Florida is also doing its best to make it very hard to get your voting rights back even with that amendment being passed since the DeSantis government is asking the clemency board to slow things down and wants everything about the amendment reviewed for as long as possible. http://www.aroundosceola.com/news/a...b67fbe9c71.html
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I guess it was a morality play and not a loving horror movie, who knew! Almost every horror movie is really really directly a modern morality play.
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eke out posted:florida went nearly perfectly 50/50 and just reinfranchised 1.4M felons, please stop telling people to give up when we're in a period that desperately needs organization and engagement No one has been re-enfranchised because the republican legislature and DeSantis are slow walking the whole process and acting like the constitutional amendment was “unclear.” Meanwhile, old people from all over the country are moving into the villages around Ocala and loving up statewide demographic shifts. Try to win, but don’t pin hopes on Florida.
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eke out posted:yeah that makes sense, maybe both parents were dual citizens and he started with two plus had an easier path for the other two All I know is if a foreign government detained me and I had multiple passports, I'd be on the phone with every country I'm a citizen in, every country I'm a resident in and every country I fooled around with in college to beg them to get me the hell out of there.
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