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Gotta love how Bill Clinton can assault a bunch of women and gain seats in the midterms and still be lauded by the Democratic Party to this day, but if a woman says the F-word her career in the party is and ought to be over and she'll never get a committee chairmanship now, apparently! Gotta love being a brokebrain centrist.
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theflyingorc posted:How has a mod of dnd not seen that before I was in eighth grade in 2008, also I didn't read D&D consistently until early 2016.
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VH4Ever posted:The right has been defining the narrative my whole life. It's about time we stop letting them do so. I agree. I just don't think it's as simply as saying a curse word, one way or the other. Nancy is doing a good job at controlling it and shutting it down. Tlaib still has some learning to do. I look forward to their working together.
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Jan 4, 2019 23:12
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VitalSigns posted:I'm trying to catch up with the goalposts here. That's a decent approximation of what I've been saying from the start, friend! Except I don't think Pelosi will be so much scandalized as she'll weigh the likelihood of candidates for sexy committee positions partly on how likely they are to say controversial things in public, because media narrative matters. Lyndon BigCock Johnson didn't talk about his penis in front of cameras, and his recorded tapes about wanting a little space for his Johnson in his pants didn't come out until after his Presidency was over. We live in an age of constant outrage and media attention. The base is going to love Representative Tlaib's statement, but it doesn't do her personal agenda any favors.
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like i've been saying, pramila is lowkey the actual best progressive right now
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Jan 4, 2019 23:13
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Jayapal is my rep, pretty happy about this
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Lightning Knight posted:I was in eighth grade in 2008, also I didn't read D&D consistently until early 2016. You're too young to be a mod! Hell you probably don't even remember the D&D Primary campaign of 2012. Get this kid a booster seat. EDIT: I'd love for someone to link to the D&D Primary Campaign stories with Newt as the DM. They were loving amazing. Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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eke out posted:like i've been saying, pramila is lowkey the actual best progressive right now It's loving tragic that she isn't eligible for the presidency because she was born in India. Unless both her parents were US citizens maybe? I dunno about that. ^ I posted a little bit in D&D during the 2012 campaign but didn't fully understand what was going on and was a terrible poster because I was still in high school.
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Rigel posted:McConnell is hoping for a near-miracle right now. He's hoping the Dems abruptly cave soon which, hey you may as well always hope for that because it sometimes happens. Failing that, he's hoping the public suddenly and unexpectedly turns against the Dems and starts blaming them for the shutdown. Personally I see McConnell as giving Trump just enough rope to finish himself off if it comes to it. My money is on either Trump caving soon or a veto-proof clean cr going through both house and the GOP trying to pretend none of this ever happened.
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Lightning Knight posted:I was in eighth grade in 2008, also I didn't read D&D consistently until early 2016. This is disgusting.
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Mineaiki posted:"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what we are going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do." Quoting this. Go get into a fight.
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fishing with the fam posted:This is disgusting. People born after 9/11 will be eligible to vote in 2020.
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I want to pitch a reality show where you place two Democrats in a room with two knives and ask them if they think working with or against the conservatives will save us, and tell them the one who wins gets to decide how their rep will vote
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Jan 4, 2019 23:17
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Retro42 posted:Personally I see McConnell as giving Trump just enough rope to finish himself off if it comes to it. My money is on either Trump caving soon or a veto-proof clean cr going through both house and the GOP trying to pretend none of this ever happened.
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Priapus Unbound posted:That's a decent approximation of what I've been saying from the start, friend! Except I don't think Pelosi will be so much scandalized as she'll weigh the likelihood of candidates for sexy committee positions partly on how likely they are to say controversial things in public, because media narrative matters. Oh good you nailed yourself down to "ah but no one knew about other Democrats swearing" Obama calls Romney a 'bullshitter' – the election just got a whole lot coarser E: Gosh Obama, your star has well and truly set now, you torpedoed your career, if only you'd said "Romney has been known to on occasion be responsible for a non-truth event, and may I say Governor Romney, sir, my liege, the Washington Post has oft times rated your comments 4.7865 Pinnochios! My apologies, sirrah, forgive my disrespect O noble one." VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I don't feel this way! You guys are the only ones who think I feel upset by what she said. I am trying to express to you that your opinions or what you personally think is right isn't what's at stake here. What's fair vs what is reality. She's GOING to be held to higher standards, and they're going to attack her each time they see a weakness. It's good Pelosi circled the wagons to protect her. She's going to have to be more clever moving forward. It's actually extremely easy to define because the Republicans do it and people like you help them
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I agree. I just don't think it's as simply as saying a curse word, one way or the other. But yet you're in here handwringing about what the Nazis will say about her forceful word choices? If seeing her finally busting through the elitist forcefield that usually ensconces people in power such that they can never actually see the real-world effects of regressive policies doesn't fill your heart with hope and promise then you're simply dead inside. I'm as big a cynic as you'll ever find and when I heard her comments my reaction was, "gently caress YES!" Never underestimate a good rallying cry, no matter how uncouth you think it may be to the CHUDs.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:gently caress you for thinking you're all clever with this poo poo while I still gotta look at Confederate monuments on my way to work I grew up looking at them. And you know what, every time there's a movement to pull them down, the Nazis come out in droves, and the little hand-wringers follow to defend them. We should all aspire to be more like Grant (in some ways). Grant was famous for his superstitious aversion to turning back, and for refusing to be afraid of the enemy.
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Lightning Knight posted:It's loving tragic that she isn't eligible for the presidency because she was born in India. Unless both her parents were US citizens maybe? I dunno about that. yeah she's ineligible
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I'm more convinced that we're going to see an almost-but-not-quite clean CR out of the Senate with some toothless fig leaf for the Republicans so they can say they "got something" out of the negotiations, and then the House will pass it. I’ll agree it’s a likely outcome. BUT, McConnell ignoring the clean CR and putting something else forward first is putting all the attention on the Senate and I doubt he wants that. Edit: At least not right now.
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Hey look I can do a quote from a famous warrior too “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War EDIT: Mineaiki posted:I grew up looking at them. And you know what, every time there's a movement to pull them down, the Nazis come out in droves, and the little hand-wringers follow to defend them. We should all aspire to be more like Grant (in some ways). Grant was famous for his superstitious aversion to turning back, and for refusing to be afraid of the enemy. I love Grant so I fully and strongly resent the implication that saying 'maybe that wasn't a smart idea politically for her to curse right away' is the same thing as the folks who want to 'preserve history' from a goddamn war of slavery Just because you can pull up a twee quote doesn't mean you fully understand what you're responding to StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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eke out posted:yeah she's ineligible That’s some bullshit tbh.
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Priapus Unbound posted:That's a decent approximation of what I've been saying from the start, friend! Except I don't think Pelosi will be so much scandalized as she'll weigh the likelihood of candidates for sexy committee positions partly on how likely they are to say controversial things in public, because media narrative matters. u dumbass being popular with your base is literally exactly how you push forward your agenda.
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Lightning Knight posted:I was in eighth grade in 2008, also I didn't read D&D consistently until early 2016. You missed libertarian D&D, when it got destroyed by a single Randbrick post about how Ron Paul would kill 100s of thousands of people. It's better now.
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Max Peck posted:A union representing federal employees calling for a strike is defined by law as an unfair labor practice Eventually someone will figure out this is a violation of the 13th Amendment.
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Retro42 posted:Personally I see McConnell as giving Trump just enough rope to finish himself off if it comes to it. My money is on either Trump caving soon or a veto-proof clean cr going through both house and the GOP trying to pretend none of this ever happened. McConnell's wife is transportation secretary for Trump, he's not playing some loving nth dimensional chess game to get Trump to cave. He's a Trump toadie, always has been, always will be.
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Jan 4, 2019 23:21
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So what was the point of having PayGo again?
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I want to pitch a reality show where you place two Democrats in a room with two knives and ask them if they think working with or against the conservatives will save us, and tell them the one who wins gets to decide how their rep will vote I, too, would like to see Meet The Press.
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Bicyclops posted:You missed libertarian D&D, when it got destroyed by a single Randbrick post about how Ron Paul would kill 100s of thousands of people. On the other hand, you missed Toblerone Triangular, the best poo poo poster these forums have ever produced
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Hey look I can do a quote from a famous warrior too What I know of the enemy is that they do this poo poo even when we're on our best behavior. Tlaib will be smeared basically the same amount no matter what. So let her call Trump a motherfucker
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:You're too young to be a mod! Hell you probably don't even remember the D&D Primary campaign of 2012. Get this kid a booster seat. Weren't those made by someone named Shadowcatboy or something?
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Retro42 posted:Personally I see McConnell as giving Trump just enough rope to finish himself off if it comes to it. My money is on either Trump caving soon or a veto-proof clean cr going through both house and the GOP trying to pretend none of this ever happened. I'm not entirely sure he even needs to be having THIS fight is the thing, just A fight. If his only concern is maintaining his base which it sure seems like it is for the first 2 years of his presidency and they seem to believe anything he says and will just blindly go along with however he defines reality why not just go continue to go with the wall is already being built narrative he's tried a few times and seems to have largely worked. What strikes me as what's going on right now is that he needs to be seen as being some sort of fight for something and trying to make a deal. He doesn't actually have any real policy or governing goals nor does he really do anything, his presidency and image subsists around manufacturing feuds and fights to pass the time and claim he's doing stuff and being successful at it. If he can find any other issue he'll just as soon let this go and feud over that instead and then he'll probably find something else to force a shutdown over the government for next time congress needs to pass a funding bill because he'll need to be seen as being in a fight for something to sell a narrative to his base. I'd have to check but I think quite literally every time the government has had to pass a funding bill he's found some way to force a shutdown and fight over it at the last second so I think it's something America might as well get used to.
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Lightning Knight posted:People born after 9/11 will be eligible to vote in 2020. Oh hey, my godson will be able! I hope he sends me a picture with the sticker.
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Lightning Knight posted:It's loving tragic that she isn't eligible for the presidency because she was born in India. Unless both her parents were US citizens maybe? I dunno about that. Just checked Wikipedia, she naturalized so nope, not a natural born citizen. Though she's awesome and great and I'm so glad she's my rep.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Hey look I can do a quote from a famous warrior too this is the quote i use when people ask why i read/watch/listen to/follow so much right wing horseshit.
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mcmagic posted:So what was the point of having PayGo again? Fiscal responsibility!!
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Hey look I can do a quote from a famous warrior too This is a good point. Since the enemy will mercilessly go after anyone who isn't a straight white guy, we should only nominate straight white guys and get ahead of their rhetoric.
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HelloSailorSign posted:Weren't those made by someone named Shadowcatboy or something? I've looked and couldn't find anything. Possibly. Bicyclops posted:You missed libertarian D&D, when it got destroyed by a single Randbrick post about how Ron Paul would kill 100s of thousands of people. The Glumslinger posted:On the other hand, you missed Toblerone Triangular, the best poo poo poster these forums have ever produced the LF days of D&D were something else, and TT will always be the best Troll, seconded by MiGF.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Hey look I can do a quote from a famous warrior too Right see but I think you're also missing the point of that Sun Tzu quote because you definitely are not knowing the enemy here. You're coming off more as a McClellan type. Lost in the details, obsessed with the overwhelming strength of the enemy. Grant tended to see weakness in his enemies, not strength. I'm sorry I compared you to Nazi-defenders. I agree that wasn't fair.
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