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Serfer posted:Fiscal responsibility!! The "The Aristocrats"of American politics.
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Groovelord Neato posted:this is the quote i use when people ask why i read/watch/listen to/follow so much right wing horseshit. I like quotes because for every perspective there's a famous successful person who enforces it so you can really easily prove how dumb the system of 'successful person means SUCCESSFUL WORDS ALL THE TIME' really is "well if they're famous and had a life success THEY MUST BE RIGHT" it's literally why people follow trump lol
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mcmagic posted:So what was the point of having PayGo again? it's dumb virtual signaling and does nothing else since all you need is a majority vote to waiver it
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:You're too young to be a mod! Hell you probably don't even remember the D&D Primary campaign of 2012. Get this kid a booster seat. I gotchu http://onthecampaigntrail.org/ E: I'm image-linking the first one so people realize just what a pro-click this is 
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Lightning Knight posted:^ I posted a little bit in D&D during the 2012 campaign but didn't fully understand what was going on and was a terrible poster because I was still in high school. I'm sure you'll grow out of it eventually
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uh what about famed forums poster caro??? way more interesting than TT
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Rigel posted:McConnell is hoping for a near-miracle right now. He's hoping the Dems abruptly cave soon which, hey you may as well always hope for that because it sometimes happens. Failing that, he's hoping the public suddenly and unexpectedly turns against the Dems and starts blaming them for the shutdown. I agree, but refusing the vote is genuinely providing a lot of cover for Senate Republicans, who are more effectively evading press and public scrutiny on the shutdown. I'm just saying there is a strategy here, and the R senators saying they are in favor of a clean CR are doing so because they have permission.
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mcmagic posted:So what was the point of having PayGo again? Performative nonsense for socially liberally fiscally conservative morons
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theflyingorc posted:Performative nonsense for socially liberally fiscally conservative morons
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm sure you'll grow out of it eventually I’m surprised it took this long for someone to make this response tbh.
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We finally get a representative in office who sounds like she gets it and is as angry and fired up as we are, and people start having a panicked diarrhea blowout because she doesn’t sound like an HR rep laying off your entire department. You ain’t built for this if you didn’t cheer when you heard.
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Also I heard language like that when I was her son's age and I frankly don't believe anyone who says they didn't. Maybe your parents didn't curse much (mine did), but other people do.
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Mineaiki posted:I'm sorry I compared you to Nazi-defenders. I agree that wasn't fair. Thank you. Apologies for coming off strong. I think the thing people are missing is that truly, I think this is a bump in the road. But I can also see why it exploded immediately. I don't AGREE with it*, but I see it, and I'm done trying to play the game the 'right' way where we all have kumbaya talks and explain how wrong sexism is. I spent my 20s fighting that fight. Really, all I'm saying is that think we should be more loving snake-like and cruel instead bc I think that will have a greater long-term effect. Stop drawing attention to our poo poo. We gotta Mitch McConnel our agenda. Motherfucker has been left alone. We need to work more under the radar bc being ON the radar just leads to obstruction. EDIT: When I say don't agree, I mean I don't agree with why it exploded, just that I wasn't surprised. And I think we need to start getting ahead of the narrative to define it ourselves, or sneaking under the radar, rather than acting impulsively then playing damage control. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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Aren't the people clutching pearls over someone saying motherfucker the same people who wear gently caress your feelings shirts?
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selec posted:We finally get a representative in office who sounds like she gets it and is as angry and fired up as we are, and people start having a panicked diarrhea blowout because she doesn’t sound like an HR rep laying off your entire department. My first reaction was "uh are you sure we're gonna impeach the motherfucker?" actually
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Must be the weekend, the circular firing squads are loading rifles
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Lemming posted:u dumbass being popular with your base is literally exactly how you push forward your agenda. Being popular with the base has atomized the Republican party. Seriously. Tea Party conservatives playing to their bases have crippled the ability of Republican leaders to get things done. With total control of the government these last two years, legislative change was still incredibly difficult because conservatives couldn't stop stabbing themselves in the back. I don't want the same thing to happen to Democrats. I want representatives like Tlaib to be mentored by effective leaders like Pelosi who managed to whip the passage of the now-popular ACA despite several Democrats losing their seats over it: politicians who know when to push effectively and when to hold em'.
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This isn’t the Wild West days of 2003, SA mods nowadays should be required to be divorced at least once and have a physical dependency on at least one type of narcotic.
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SocketWrench posted:Must be the weekend, the circular firing squads are loading rifles It's literally two posters Wait maybe three theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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Congratulations Secretary of Defense Jim Webb. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1081305634115674112
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Faustian Bargain posted:Aren't the people clutching pearls over someone saying motherfucker the same people who wear gently caress your feelings shirts? what does your heart tell you (I love this particular meme) Shimrra Jamaane posted:This isn’t the Wild West days of 2003, SA mods nowadays should be required to be divorced at least once and have a physical dependency on at least one type of narcotic. some prison time would be a plus
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Russia is laughing that they bought Trump and he is doing Putin's bidding of shutting the US Government down and on the one hand Mitch McConnell supports this obstruction, and should be indicted on conspiracy or treason charges with Trump, to make a buck and on the other hand some Democrats are scared to impeach him because Trump supporters may never vote for them and they get blamed for impeaching. So Putin through Trump shut the US Down for 4 years. All thanks to conservatives, religious nuts, gun nuts, racists and nazis, old white men, etc.
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Faustian Bargain posted:Aren't the people clutching pearls over someone saying motherfucker the same people who wear gently caress your feelings shirts? gently caress your feelings, not gently caress my feelings.
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Priapus Unbound posted:Being popular with the base has atomized the Republican party. Seriously. Tea Party conservatives playing to their bases have crippled the ability of Republican leaders to get things done. With total control of the government these last two years, legislative change was still incredibly difficult because conservatives couldn't stop stabbing themselves in the back. I'm not really worried because what we have here is a difference of opinion on political strategy and tactics, not so much on political policy. Once its time to vote on something meaningful that could actually become law (after 2020), there won't be many defections. The GOP had sharp internal disagreements with policy, and the HFC crazies were big, loud, and proud enough to hamstring their own leaders from accomplishing very much other than the tax grab.
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Faustian Bargain posted:Aren't the people clutching pearls over someone saying motherfucker the same people who wear gently caress your feelings shirts? Well unless they are itt, then they are clutching pearls over a MUSLIM(!) in the HOUSE (!)
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Twitter locked me cause I told Kurt Eichenwald to gently caress off about about cursing lol
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fishing with the fam posted:This is disgusting. Mods, ban this filthy youth mod.  mcmagic posted:So what was the point of having PayGo again? The speculation I read earlier in the thread (and initially agreed with) was that it would be a convenient excuse to kill off bills that were too overly leftist by stating that we can’t possibly raise taxes enough to cover the cost of m4a, college subsidies, etc. Now that enough reps have come out effectively saying “lol gently caress no” it looks like they aren’t pushing it as hard as the whole centrism thing seems to be killing peoples enthusiasm for some odd reason...
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Priapus Unbound posted:Being popular with the base has atomized the Republican party. Seriously. Tea Party conservatives playing to their bases have crippled the ability of Republican leaders to get things done. With total control of the government these last two years, legislative change was still incredibly difficult because conservatives couldn't stop stabbing themselves in the back. the gop has been a white nationalist party since the 60s.
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Bicyclops posted:You missed libertarian D&D, when it got destroyed by a single Randbrick post about how Ron Paul would kill 100s of thousands of people. Is this archived offsite somewhere? Hieronymous Alloy posted:Look at this motherfucker: You know the dude is saying dishonored because he knows honor killings are a thing and he's trying to imply she should be murdered by her family and the CHUD base who are SUPER into what conservative Muslims do are hearing that loud and clear.
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Dave Grool posted:Twitter locked me cause I told Kurt Eichenwald to gently caress off about about cursing lol Were you trying to convince to him that curse words exist?
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You can tell a lot about a politician by the people they hire. With that said: https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1081312553203089409
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Priapus Unbound posted:Being popular with the base has atomized the Republican party. Seriously. Tea Party conservatives playing to their bases have crippled the ability of Republican leaders to get things done. With total control of the government these last two years, legislative change was still incredibly difficult because conservatives couldn't stop stabbing themselves in the back. So just going to forget that you staked out "it only didn't hurt other Democrats because no one knew about the swears" when I showed you Obama calling Romney a bullshitter in 2012 without any of your dread pronouncements coming to pass?
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Priapus Unbound posted:Being popular with the base has atomized the Republican party. Seriously. Tea Party conservatives playing to their bases have crippled the ability of Republican leaders to get things done. With total control of the government these last two years, legislative change was still incredibly difficult because conservatives couldn't stop stabbing themselves in the back. The Tea Party is a Frankenstein monster of their own creation. They're the people who the Republicans told to be racist/sexist/whatever in order to get them elected. The problem is that the Republican base doesn't want what the Republican party wants, which is tax cuts for the rich, exploitation of the poor, loving the planet, etc. They got side tracked by the red herrings they've thrown up. I don't want the Democrats to succeed in fulfilling corporatist goals. I want them to succeed in populist goals, taxing the rich, protecting the environment, equality, voting rights, etc. We should absolutely do what the Tea Party did and eat them from the inside because we actually want good things. It's easier to succeed here because the goals of corporatist Democrats are bad and are just Republican light, and the goals of the populists are things that are actually good, viable, sound solutions to problems. The parties are not just mirrors of one another. Playing to the base for Republicans means crazy, insane, pointless, racist bullshit. Playing to the base for Democrats is literally only good things.
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VitalSigns posted:I gotchu I am only ever going to say this once to you, and it is entirely limited to this one post: Thank you for posting. Seriously though, I had no idea it was hosted on a website.
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Anyone buying into this poo poo about Motherfucker being a gaffe is nuts. Firing up the base is how 2018 got won and that's the current paradigm for politics. The inevitable result of decades of voter apathy is that you can get poo poo done by making people enthusiastic.
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Dave Grool posted:Twitter locked me cause I told Kurt Eichenwald to gently caress off about about cursing lol What! I tell the President he's a dumb motherfucker and he has a tiny dick on twitter without repercussions, how do you catch a ban for sassing a reporter?
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Oh wait, never mind I see it
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Yeah the problem with the Tea Party is that the bills they want passed won't do what the Tea Party pretends/possibly really thinks they will do, and other Republicans know it. The reason Republicans failed to repeal Obamacare wasn't because someone said a mean word and split the party, it was because too many Red state senators knew they were doomed if they cut Medicaid so nothing they came up with could get 51 votes. Their Obamacare debacle came about because they bullshitted for eight years that repealing it would fix everything and give every American great healthcare with low costs, but their actual agenda is the opposite of that, so they were caught up in their own lies. Not because someone said 'gently caress' one time and ruined ~~the discourse~~ VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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theflyingorc posted:Performative nonsense for socially liberally fiscally conservative morons And you think the people who think that is a good idea are strategic geniuses!!
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