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Still eyeing the possibility of some Gamergate idiots pooling money to buy this old set of data to own the libs.
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Randler posted:Furthermore, it is interesting that the Russia narrative gets pushed by Libulini, who just happens to have ties to NATO by being a veteran of a German electronic warfare formation. Stop talking about this, I don't want to get interrogated by the MAD!!!
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Healbot posted:Still eyeing the possibility of some Gamergate idiots pooling money to buy this old set of data to own the libs.
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Setzen Sie sich, Herr Libluini, die Kollegen Fröhn und Feinbein werden Ihnen jetzt ein paar Fragen stellen.
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This makes me irrationally angry. Don’t fly, you motherfuckers. If not even Grüne get it, climate holocaust is definitely unavoidable.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Wengy posted:This makes me irrationally angry. Don’t fly, you motherfuckers. If not even Grüne get it, climate holocaust is definitely unavoidable. suck my woke dick posted:Grünenstatus as perfomatively woke Bierzeltparteiersatz confirmed.
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No offense, but I don't really care why you found it funny tbh, I just have the Schnauze voll von Leuten, die fliegen, obwohl sie es besser wissen (auch in meinem Umfeld ein ewiges Thema).
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Wengy posted:No offense, but I don't really care why you found it funny tbh, I just have the Schnauze voll von Leuten, die fliegen, obwohl sie es besser wissen (auch in meinem Umfeld ein ewiges Thema). Das Problem ist sinnloses Langstreckenreisen. Pro Kilometer ist es egal, ob das mit dem Flieger oder mit der Bahn passiert.
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suck my woke dick posted:Das Problem ist sinnloses Langstreckenreisen. Pro Kilometer ist es egal, ob das mit dem Flieger oder mit der Bahn passiert. Mit der Bahn nach Kalifornien ist dann aber halt auch ein wenig Scheiße.
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suck my woke dick posted:Das Problem ist sinnloses Langstreckenreisen. Pro Kilometer ist es egal, ob das mit dem Flieger oder mit der Bahn passiert. CO2-technisch ist es egal, ob ich nach Wien fliege oder den Railjet nehme? Come on.
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Wengy posted:This makes me irrationally angry. Don’t fly, you motherfuckers. If not even Grüne get it, climate holocaust is definitely unavoidable. It is unavoidable regardless of how much Verzicht we exercise in Germany anyway. So why bother?
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Wengy posted:No offense, but I don't really care why you found it funny tbh, I just have the Schnauze voll von Leuten, die fliegen, obwohl sie es besser wissen (auch in meinem Umfeld ein ewiges Thema). Wer in einem Urlaubsparadies lebt, hat gut reden. Reisen ist notwendig, um die Ungleichverteilung der landschaftlichen Schönheit umzufairteilen.
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Randler posted:It is unavoidable regardless of how much Verzicht we exercise in Germany anyway. So why bother? Don't be nihilistic, we still have about 10 years to turn the ship around!!!!!! 
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Einbauschrank posted:Wer in einem Urlaubsparadies lebt, hat gut reden. Reisen ist notwendig, um die Ungleichverteilung der landschaftlichen Schönheit umzufairteilen. Die Schweiz ist nur für Leute mit sehr tiefen Taschen ein Urlaubsparadies, und zu denen zähle ich leider nicht. Ausserdem reise ich auch, sogar manchmal nach Deutschland, aber ausschliesslich per Zug.
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Wengy might have an idea how to reduce emissions by 2,69% per year, worldwide.
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Healbot posted:Wengy might have an idea how to reduce emissions by 2,69% per year, worldwide. Hey, it's something. But if you want to be cynics about it, have fun in California, I guess  Also, I'm no fancy-pants climate egghead, but this stat is also dependent on countries. In Switzerland (and I'd guess in many other rich developed nations), Flugverkehr is a much more significant polluter - because people can afford to pop over to NYC for a quick shopping trip, you see. Flying apparently accounts for 18% of Switzerland's CO2-emissions, I just checked. Seems pretty significant to me!
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Even if it's something like 20% in Switzerland, your cars are still much more significant, and much easier to address on population scale if humans weren't shitheads.
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Well, you're preaching to the choir. I don't own a car, never will.
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Wengy posted:Hey, it's something. But if you want to be cynics about it, have fun in California, I guess Flying over to New York once or twice a year does not produce more emissions per person than driving that lovely expensive SUV over 12 months.
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Culling the top 10% of industry that produce more than half the emission would be extremely more helpful than pissing on people using planes.
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Mithaldu posted:Even if it's something like 20% in Switzerland, your cars are still much more significant, and much easier to address on population scale if humans weren't shitheads. Not flying is much easier to accomplish than not using a car. For short trips (anything that takes less than a day by train basically), flying is the dirtiest way to go. For very long trips, flying actually causes less emissions than if you went by car or train. Not to mention that most people won't want to travel three days when they can also do it in six hours. But consider that you don't actually have to go jet setting across the world constantly.
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Wengy posted:Don't be nihilistic, we still have about 10 years to turn the ship around!!!!!! Is that 10 years under the, in my opinion highly improbable, assumption that the United States of America will do a 180°? Because from where I'm standing, the United States will never come around, thus any savings me make, will just be gobbled up by the insatiable consumption beast that is America until we all drown and/or boil in the oceans. And while this might be a surprsie due to my very pro American posting persona, I'm not feeling morally convinced for the rest of the world to cut back just so the Americans get another decade or so of unfettered consumption until the curtain falls.
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Healbot posted:Culling the top 10% of industry that produce more than half the emission would be extremely more helpful than pissing on people using planes. Why not both? Jesus.
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pidan posted:Not flying is much easier to accomplish than not using a car. When it comes to achieving the goals travel achieves, not using cars is muuuuch easier than not using a plane. Using a plane is only easier if you're willing to not actually accomplish your travel goal. Edit: Also like, flying planes is utterly miserable. Unless you're super rich and can afford first class everytime, no significant part of the population likes flying, so the fliers have to have a quite high motivation to accomplish their travelling goals. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 5, 2019 |
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Mithaldu posted:You're technically right, but only went as deep as you wanted to go. See I hate flying and love overnight trains. So for me not flying and not driving are equally easy in most situations. The worst thing about German trains are the groups of loud drunks that are inexplicably everywhere. Young men or pensioners of either gender, please party at home in your barn and be civilised on the train.
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pidan posted:See I hate flying and love overnight trains. So for me not flying and not driving are equally easy in most situations. So much this. Also, as a Pendler I hate our army assholes (their MArschbefehle also serve as train tickets, so they'll always marodier as a group)
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So what you're saying is you're either unemployed or bougie enough that you can afford to convert a 3 hour flight to a 3 day day trip without losing the opportunity to go at all. Now try thinking like a normal person.
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Also omg, now the loving both of you are whining that the ~wrong kind of people~ are using the transportation methods that protect the planet the most. Amazing.
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Mithaldu posted:Also omg, now the loving both of you are whining that the ~wrong kind of people~ are using the transportation methods that protect the planet the most. Amazing. lol
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Long ago I got near maximum population in Sim City for the SNES by building up a huge, min-maxed city and then ripping out all the streets again and replacing them with rails. Reduced the air pollution by a huge amount. This looks like it could work in real life, too.
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Mithaldu posted:So what you're saying is you're either unemployed or bougie enough that you can afford to convert a 3 hour flight to a 3 day day trip without losing the opportunity to go at all. I don't visit destinations that are three days' worth of train travel away, problem solved. Also, how loving hard is it not to be drunk / eating a Döner while riding the train? Apparently, very
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Wengy posted:I don't visit destinations that are three days' worth of train travel away, problem solved. Also, how loving hard is it not to be drunk / eating a Döner while riding the train? Apparently, very Look man, don't loving judge. It's not like only you suffer. Half of the Döner usually ends up in my lap and I can only do that like five times before I have to wash my jeans.
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Libluini posted:Long ago I got near maximum population in Sim City for the SNES by building up a huge, min-maxed city and then ripping out all the streets again and replacing them with rails. Reduced the air pollution by a huge amount. This looks like it could work in real life, too. in Germany easily, due to population density of cities. in the USA they'd need to rebuild all of the suburbs and move people into apartments Wengy posted:I don't visit destinations that are three days' worth of train travel away, problem solved. Also, how loving hard is it not to be drunk / eating a Döner while riding the train? Apparently, very do you know the term "gently caress you, got mine"?
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The amount of train issues in this thread make me suspicious. It awfully sounds like y'all are Speckgürtel residents instead of living in the workers' quarters of large cities. 
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I live in a city, but have to pendel to another city. Also lol, an actual FYGM position would be me buying an Erstklass-Generalabonnement (or Bahncard 100 if I were German) while looking down my nose at the Döner-wielding proles. Or flying to Thailand or wherever because the planet is going to poo poo anyway.
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IMO drunk Kegelmannschaften and Verspätungen are part of the Deutsche Bahn experience. Just accept it and your life will be much easier. Though gently caress that guy who plopped himself down opposite me and slowly ate what looked like several Räucheraale mit Remoulade, that's pro tier trolling. Whole train kept looking at their crotches and awkwardly sniffing the air. I ended up switching wagons.
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Yes let us talk down and demonize other people about potentially contributing to 0.00645 of CO2 emissions and get bogged down into discussions about that rather than tackling the issue of generating almost half our energy by burning coal in TYOL 2019 seriously it's cool that people buy bamboo toothbrushes and all that (which are shipped in from other continents) in order to save the environment. but maybe the effort would be better spent to improve the source of 90% of our emissions rather than the remaining 10%. Lord Stimperor fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jan 5, 2019 |
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