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Bust Rodd posted:I was listening to some comedy podcasts that basically said anyone who hangs with Simpson’s cast & crew just heard about how lovely it is now and nobody hangs out anymore and it’s basically at “we all hate each other” levels now. Which podcasts, out of curiosity? I want to hear about this. I also kinda want to listen to the audio commentary for the new seasons. The insights in the audio commentary for the 1-8 DVDs were usually interesting and funny, but what would they even have to say about the newer ones? The Awesomesaurus fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jan 5, 2019 |
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Sagebrush posted:uhhhhhh no there is absolutely a difference in the quality of the animation beyond just the colors. Well, yeah the animation is drawn a lot lazier than they used to be. I was talking technically, as in the tools they are using. No one on the Simpsons actually gives a poo poo anymore, I thought that was a given.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Also I really want to strangle Al Jean Homer style while shouting that the show is in a visual medium and therefore it doesn't matter how funny it is at a table reading if it's a funny sight gag. I feel like this is the root of a lot of bad comedy. So many of modern Family Guy/Simpsons jokes seem like they'd be funny if you were at like a convention panel with MacFarlane, Azaria, etc. improving the voices. But when you put those gags in the middle of a show, it doesn't work at all. It's like when someone describes a skit show in a really funny way to you then when you watch it, you realize you got the condensed version without a lot of bad acting.
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Jan 5, 2019 17:02
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I just watched "The Last Temptation of Homer" and never knew that Mindy was voiced by Michelle Pfeiffer. That right there is a huge difference from good, old Simpsons and lovely, newer. Celebrities just integrated into the plot's characters instead of the plot written around their real life personas. And I still contend S10E05 "When You Dish Upon a Star" is where that substantially changed.
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SirPablo posted:I just watched "The Last Temptation of Homer" and never knew that Mindy was voiced by Michelle Pfeiffer. That right there is a huge difference from good, old Simpsons and lovely, newer. Celebrities just integrated into the plot's characters instead of the plot written around their real life personas. And I still contend S10E05 "When You Dish Upon a Star" is where that substantially changed. Mak0rz posted:Johnny Cash is one of the best celebrity guests to appear in that series and he voiced a talking dog.
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Jan 5, 2019 19:41
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Did they ever do anymore macabre references like the Texas Clocktower Sniper? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQNMOGFI-Ks Watching that as a kid with no reference spooked me, and when you watch the commentary on the scene they don't even mention it lol
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New thread title: What's today's lowest point of the Simpsons?
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Mr Interweb posted:Btw, anyone else think the amount of likes on Jean's tweets is super depressing? I mean, sure he deserves it, but they're in the single digits! I figured he was a big enough celebrity (at least in nerd circles) that he would have at least a floor of pity likes at worst. He used to put @TheSimpsons in the text of every tweet he posted, and when people called him out he said it “drives engagement” or something Flannelette posted:Has there been a fortnite episode or has any of the simpsons done the floss dance yet? Because that would be the real lowest point. https://twitter.com/aljean/status/1080623958590963714?s=21 emgeejay fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 5, 2019 |
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i mean that has to be it, right? like there's nowhere down from there do we close the thread after the episode airs, or suicide pact, or what's the procedure here
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That's a pretty okay title, at least. It was a little funnier when I thought it was him accidentally mixing up the words though.
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Nonviolent J posted:I refuse to watch anything other than season 1 so Smithers is still black to me
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Nonviolent J posted:I refuse to watch anything other than season 1 so
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Last night's episode opened with a shot of the Simpson house with Love and Marriage playing in the background and the sprinklers emulating the fountain from the opening credits of Married...with Children. That was a lot of work for a bizarre, jokeless reference to a show that ended more than 20 years ago.
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Peg: “Al! Write a good show!” Al Jean: “Eh, no Peg!” *flushes toilet*
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dsriggs posted:Peg: “Al! Write a good show!” That's funnier than the last decade of the Simpsons
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To say nothing of that whole Futurama spoof of it.
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OutOfPrint posted:Last night's episode opened with a shot of the Simpson house with Love and Marriage playing in the background and the sprinklers emulating the fountain from the opening credits of Married...with Children. Homer getting carried off by orderlies to receive electroshock treatment at a mental asylum and he only relents when he thinks of the taste of leather to bite down on was my favorite part
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Data Graham posted:To say nothing of that whole Futurama spoof of it. The spoof was good, gently caress off
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Milo and POTUS posted:The spoof was good, gently caress off Uh, I think my meaning was unclear.
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Is shitposting of poo poo episodes allowed? That's poo poo^2 which is good, right?
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Data Graham posted:Uh, I think my meaning was unclear. Uh I may have misfucked um, sorry bro?
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Data Graham posted:To say nothing of that whole Futurama spoof of it. TIL that there's a Married With Children wiki describing in detail shows that intersected with it or parodied it, including Futurama. Cursed, but also funnier than anything Simpsons-related in the past decade or so.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Uh I may have misfucked um, sorry bro? 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Homer getting carried off by orderlies to receive electroshock treatment at a mental asylum and he only relents when he thinks of the taste of leather to bite down on was my favorite part I checked out after Marge came on scene and sounded like she was dying from stage 4 lung cancer. I can fully believe that happened, though.
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dsriggs posted:Peg: “Al! Write a good show!”  The digital animation is good because without even waiting for dialogue I know it’s a crappy episode from a crappy era and can continue channel surfing In the Good Timeline the series was laid to rest with dignity long ago after years of steady and ever increasing laughs with showrunner Conan oBrien at the helm 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Homer getting carried off by orderlies to receive electroshock treatment at a mental asylum and he only relents when he thinks of the taste of leather to bite down on was my favorite part Didn't they make basically that same joke the last time they did a joke about Homer getting electroshock? something like.. Doc: Those are for biting down on, not eating Homer: then stop giving ones that taste so good.
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The Awesomesaurus posted:Which podcasts, out of curiosity? I want to hear about this. Mike Reiss wrote a book and did some podcasts where he talked about this. Well, the book for sure I don’t know about podcasts. He says he noticed it in the late 90s when he came back and saw the studio was like a drat high school with gossip, drama and pettiness everywhere that seeped into the show. He believed back then that was the source of the more mean spirited humor (like Jerkass Homer) that started around this time.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I chuckled when he paused before shooting Maggie. I like that quagmire is the character they used to call out Brian
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dsriggs posted:Peg: “Al! Write a good show!”
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dsriggs posted:Peg: “Al! Write a good show!” 
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Can I just say that I find the trajectory of the Simpsons absolutely fascinating? And no, I'm not talking about how it got worse over time. Yes, it's unfortunate, and even tragic, but also, not surprising at all. This is a problem that nearly every long running T.V. show in existence faced. It happened to Sons of Anarchy, Dexter, Suits, Weeds, Oz, Hercules/Xena, the list goes on and on. This phenomenon is not special or unique at all. However, looking at how the Simpsons started, and then seeing what it became, is a helluva lot more of an interesting story. Go back to season one, and tell me you're not stunned at what kind of a show The Simpsons used to be. This may piss off a lot of people, but I thought it was an ugly, unfunny mess. The animation was absolutely wretched in pretty much every way you can imagine. Even as a 5 year old who would eat up pretty much anything that resembled a cartoon, I remember thinking it looked like poo poo. And then there was the writing. There were "jokes" in there sure, but it can't even really be considered a comedy show. It was more like an animated version of something like Seventh Heaven, being overly mawkish and sentimental. I legitimately don't know who this was supposed to be targeted to. It was too boring for kids, but also too childish (looking) for adults. The second season was a noticeable improvement, but it was still very rough. I don't think the show found its voice until season 3. I find it staggering that we go from something Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire to Homer the Vigilante and Cape Feare. We go from some of the most wretched content ever put to paper, to some of the greatest, wittiest television to ever exist.
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QwertySanchez posted:Didn't they make basically that same joke the last time they did a joke about Homer getting electroshock? I can’t remember the episode but it was Dr: those are rubber coated in Vaseline. Homer: Marge! Write that down so we can have it at home!
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I don't think season 1 is as bad as you do, but I think most people would agree that it isn't very entertaining to watch, has aged horribly, and feels absolutely archaic. But that'ts what makes it so fascinating. It feels clunky, wholesome, and saccharine today but was edgy enough to rock the world in 1990 and revolutionize prime time television.
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the fact that season 1 seems so tame now is proof that The Simpsons really did lower the moral standards of are nation
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Mr Interweb posted:Can I just say that I find the trajectory of the Simpsons absolutely fascinating? And no, I'm not talking about how it got worse over time. Yes, it's unfortunate, and even tragic, but also, not surprising at all. This is a problem that nearly every long running T.V. show in existence faced. It happened to Sons of Anarchy, Dexter, Suits, Weeds, Oz, Hercules/Xena, the list goes on and on. This phenomenon is not special or unique at all. However, looking at how the Simpsons started, and then seeing what it became, is a helluva lot more of an interesting story. When I rewatched season 1 it had a much sharper satirical edge then I remember, it a lot more cynical than the later seasons imo, and it totally flew by me when I was young. So I don't think it's fair at all to write it off as mawkish, even today there's a transgressive quality to the first couple of seasons you rarely see on TV, the thing is it wasn't much for actual jokes and that's the big change in leading into the golden years.
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I went through season 1 a few years ago and it was a lot better than I remember. There’s some weird creepy animation but the writing is still pretty sharp.
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Season One blew my mind as a 12 year old raised on truly mawkish and banal '80s sitcoms. It was absolutely a transgressive take on the wholesome family trope. The pilot episode has father and son going to a dog track on Christmas Eve because they're broke, after having paid for the son's tattoo removal. In another the entire family zaps each other during electroshock therapy. The wife flirts with infidelity. A babysitter holds the kids hostage. There's some dark stuff there. Anyway, for me, "The Change" was when celebrities started showing up as themselves instead of actual characters. Exception granted for The Ramones and Cypress Hill, of course.
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A personal low was Cypress Hill stealing my orchestra.
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Actually went and rewatched the moaning Lisa episode from season 1. It's genuinely pretty good. Something I noticed about the first season is the music score is really top notch.
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