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504
Feb 2, 2016

by R. Guyovich

banned from Starbucks posted:

make leia a muppet

Literally?

Like, hand up rear end muppet?

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Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018
Have her be played by Frank Oz

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

this would be very bad. leia is going to be cgi and this is their cover.

I don’t think they’re stupid enough to think they can pass off a CGI Leia as the real thing

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Make it like Bela Lugosi in Plan 9 from Outer Space and just have someone else hold a cloak over their face whenever they need to film a scene with Leia in it.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



CelticPredator posted:

Nah. Make the movie. Keep making the TLJ people mad. gently caress 'em. They can watch something else.

And when the film backtracks on the courageous decisions they made in the Last Jedi?

Does an attitude of "gently caress the consumer!" also apply to the feelings of Last Jedi fans, or is it only the bad people whose opinions should be ignored no matter the financial cost?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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gently caress everyone and let god sort 'em out.

This is why I love Neveldine and Taylor. They just make rad stuff and don't really care if you're into it or not.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
It was incredibly brave and subversive when the heroes of The Last Jedi prioritized their bullshit mission over ending slavery.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

banned from Starbucks posted:

make leia a muppet

"She has ascended through the force and now she's a force creature. All Skywalkers have the potential."

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Radical thought, they should try to make a movie that isn't a horrible, contradicting mess, or bland nostalgic pandering to grown manchildren

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




BravestOfTheLamps posted:

It was incredibly brave and subversive when the heroes of The Last Jedi prioritized their bullshit mission over ending slavery.

The New Republic was juuuuust about to end slavery. Honest. It was like number 1 or 2 on the itinerary....of next year. Then they got blown up.

These movies make no sense. What is the resistance fighting to protect? Slave worlds that cater to the super rich? They havent been able to outlaw slavery in 30 years? Are they setting up the new trilogy to be a prequel reboot where the broom kid is the new Anakin? What the hell are these movies even trying to say?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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McCloud posted:

Radical thought, they should try to make a movie that isn't a horrible, contradicting mess, or bland nostalgic pandering to grown manchildren

They did. Not the movies fault you didn’t like it.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

galagazombie posted:

Make it like Bela Lugosi in Plan 9 from Outer Space and just have someone else hold a cloak over their face whenever they need to film a scene with Leia in it.

What they should do is have characters say, "I wonder what Leia would say?" then cut away to footage from the Star Wars Holiday Special or something or Carrie Fisher being interviewed on Graham Norton. Nobody would see it coming.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

It was incredibly brave and subversive when the heroes of The Last Jedi prioritized their bullshit mission over ending slavery.

It's what Qui-Gon would have done. Hell, it's what Qui-Gon did.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

McCloud posted:

Radical thought, they should try to make a movie that isn't a horrible, contradicting mess, or bland nostalgic pandering to grown manchildren

You've never watched a Star War before, have you.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Gonz posted:

I am incredibly hype for animatronic Carrie Fisher.

They’ll put her in the Hall of Presidents afterwards.

Make this canon you cowards



"I bid you Dark Greetings." is the single best option for the way of the Knights of Ren to introduce themselves

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

It was incredibly brave and subversive when the heroes of The Last Jedi prioritized their bullshit mission over ending slavery.

But they did free some Space Mules

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Vinylshadow posted:

Make this canon you cowards



"I bid you Dark Greetings." is the single best option for the way of the Knights of Ren to introduce themselves

Why is Leia optic blasting the guy with warts?

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

General Dog posted:

But they did free some Space Mules

Temporarily. They released them into a tiny area of an otherwise-featureless desert planet. The space mules would certainly be recaptured within a few days. Or starve.

CityMidnightJunky
May 11, 2013

by Smythe
From someone who really doesn't care about Star Wars one way or the other, and has no stake in the game, it just seems like the series, the creators and the fans have gotten their heads so far up their own asses it pretty much has nowhere to go. The entire universe feels about the size of a small town with half a dozen people in it.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Temporarily. They released them into a tiny area of an otherwise-featureless desert planet. The space mules would certainly be recaptured within a few days. Or starve.

Of course, The "Great Space Horse Liberation" was a pretense in facilitating their own escape, applied after-the-fact when they were no longer useful to The Resistance.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

CityMidnightJunky posted:

From someone who really doesn't care about Star Wars one way or the other, and has no stake in the game, it just seems like the series, the creators and the fans have gotten their heads so far up their own asses it pretty much has nowhere to go. The entire universe feels about the size of a small town with half a dozen people in it.

What an incredibly smug post about something that has been discussed for dozens of pages in the last month alone.

CityMidnightJunky
May 11, 2013

by Smythe

kidkissinger posted:

What an incredibly smug post about something that has been discussed for dozens of pages in the last month alone.

Thanks, I do my best.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

CelticPredator posted:

They did. Not the movies fault you didn’t like it.

They did not. TFA was clearly built around evoking the nostalgic "Star Wars feeling" at the expense of plot and character development, and TLJ constantly undermines its own themes. The slavery scene is a perfect example.

At least Lucas was interested in exploring other stories within the SW setting and take risks in an attempt to tell a compelling story. That's not going to happen now that Disney are in control


KVeezy3 posted:

Of course, The "Great Space Horse Liberation" was a pretense in facilitating their own escape, applied after-the-fact when they were no longer useful to The Resistance.

Right. They liberate the poor sentient animal but only after exploiting it for their own benefit. Meanwhile the enslaved children, which are of no use to the Rebellion, are left to languish at the hands of their cruel slave masters.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
Space horses are non-sentient.
- Wookiepedia

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



I think we're meant to interpret the last scene of TLJ as the Resistance inspiring the child slaves (and, allegorically, all oppressed people) into freeing themselves, just like Rose and her sister. Of course, "inspiration" isn't an actual political goal. Even if inspiration was politically viable, it doesn't really work thematically because the thing that is meant to be inspiring is "Star Wars the multimedia franchise", when that franchise is really just a corporate entity that is obligated to release a poorly considered movie every year. It doesn't really inspire anyone to do anything politically worthwhile.

pospysyl fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jan 5, 2019

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

pospysyl posted:

I think we're meant to interpret the last scene of TLJ as the Resistance inspiring the child slaves (and, allegorically, all oppressed people) into freeing themselves, just like Rose and her sister. Of course, "inspiration" isn't an actual political goal and it's not really even a political strategy. Even if inspiration was politically viable, it doesn't really work thematically because the thing that is meant to be inspiring is "Star Wars the multimedia franchise", when that franchise is really just a corporate entity that is obligated to release a poorly considered movie every year. It doesn't really inspire anyone to do anything politically worthwhile.

I'm pretty skeptical JJ is gonna free the slaves also but we'll see I guess.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

McCloud posted:

Right. They liberate the poor sentient animal but only after exploiting it for their own benefit. Meanwhile the enslaved children, which are of no use to the Rebellion, are left to languish at the hands of their cruel slave masters.

Well, the Rebellion never wanted to free the slaves; they just wanted to change who was in control of the Empire; so it's not inconsistent with their broader programme.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Whenever the gambler arms dealers behind all the star wars are off screen, all the other characters should be asking, "When are we going to go murder the arms dealers?"

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

McCloud posted:

At least Lucas was interested in exploring other stories within the SW setting and take risks in an attempt to tell a compelling story. That's not going to happen now that Disney are in control

They will probably reconsider if/when (delete as appropriate) the next one does as poorly as Solo.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Darth TNT posted:

Why is Leia optic blasting the guy with warts?

The Jedi Prince book series was a very silly place and even in the old EU was contradicted and retconned out the wazoo

504
Feb 2, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Hey!

Those twin Death Stars being constructed in the orbit of Corusant were cool and good.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Wheat Loaf posted:

They will probably reconsider if/when (delete as appropriate) the next one does as poorly as Solo.

I don't think there'll be any more Star Wars after Episode 9.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

I don't think there'll be any more Star Wars after Episode 9.

There'll probably be more television stuff but movies will most likely be on hiatus for the next decade until everybody gets over themselves.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

The real question is, who will disney sell star wars to

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

No Mods No Masters posted:

The real question is, who will disney sell star wars to

I would have said Amazon or something but it will probably be a lot cheaper by then, so that expands the range of options. :v:

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

No Mods No Masters posted:

The real question is, who will disney sell star wars to

George Walton Lucas Jr.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

No Mods No Masters posted:

The real question is, who will disney sell star wars to

Ah yes can't wait to go to the newly-rebranded Astral Battles: Nebula's Rim attraction at Disneyland with fan favorite characters Furbookie and Captain Tetryon

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Cross-Section posted:

Ah yes can't wait to go to the newly-rebranded Astral Battles: Nebula's Rim attraction at Disneyland with fan favorite characters Furbookie and Captain Tetryon

They can carve out the theme park rights. They had Star Tours before they had Star Wars. It's not like anybody else will be able to do anything with them.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Pull a double reverse pirates of the carribean and make an astral battles film franchise that does better and indeed is better than star war films IMO

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SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

KVeezy3 posted:

Space horses are non-sentient.
- Wookiepedia

The real issue is that they have they have the forward-facing eyes of a predatory species.

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