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Maybe its the emulator, but when orange looks closer to yellow and yellow looks more like green.. you have a problem, game. (Or maybe I was colorblind this whole time)
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It's not the emulator. Fortunately they never put anything that's too close to the right answer next to it.
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Jan 5, 2019 22:25
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DeafNote posted:(Or maybe I was colorblind this whole time)
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The Dark Id posted:Make is your malfunction, Earth element?! The Dark Id posted:Video: Serpahim Boss Battle Highlights (You should watch this.) DeafNote posted:Maybe its the emulator, but when orange looks closer to yellow and yellow looks more like green.. you have a problem, game.
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Jan 5, 2019 22:59
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Watching the two intros to this game if you just let it stay still at the title screen, one of them involves fighting inside-out meat Jesus, and boy was reaching him for real an absolute delight. The Dark Id posted:But, this being a dungeon and all there naturally is a few things standing in our way. 1. Should be "are." 2. Should be "Divine."
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Jan 6, 2019 00:29
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Mordiceius posted:OH gently caress. Shadow Hearts, aka one of my favorite games of all time?! I wish I knew there was an LP of this going on. Uh.... Have you not played From the New World?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Uh.... Have you not played From the New World? It sure is a real shame that they never made a Shadow Hearts 3
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Jan 6, 2019 02:21
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A lot of people think it doesn't really "count" as Shadow Hearts 3 because it's mostly unconnected to the characters and plot of 1 and 2. I can see where they're coming from. FTNW is to Shadow Hearts like Shadow Hearts is to Koudelka.
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Jan 6, 2019 02:23
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Or Lunar Dragon Song to Silver Star and Eternal Blue
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Or Lufia: The Ruins of Lore to... well, anything else in the series.
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From the New World is actually a good game though and not horrible. The writing is weaker, there is a bit more stock JRPG elements, and Johnny utterly pales in comparison to Koudelka and Yuri but its still very much a Shadow Hearts game, it just went harder into the alt-history zaniness instead of the cosmic horror.
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I don't think anyone said it's horrible. Koudelka wasn't horrible either, but Shadow Hearts is as little of a direct sequel to that game as FOTN is to Covenant. Covenant, on the other hand, directly picks the plot from Shadow Hearts back up where the ending leaves off. The game would possibly have been better received if it had just not marketed itself as Shadow Hearts 3, because to people who expected another sequel to Yuri's story, that's just not what it really is.
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Accordion Man posted:From the New World is actually a good game though and not horrible.
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That seems like a very fair comparison. Dragon Quarter was a very good and unique game that a lot of people didn't like a whole lot because it's really nothing at all like what you'd expect out of the series after playing DQ3 and 4, except for some character callbacks.
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Shadow Hearts 2 walks a fine line between grim grittiness and goofiness. Meanwhile, Shadow Hearts 3 is basically all goofiness and that didn't work for me. Like the "ring soul" side story in Shadow Hearts 2, but it is the main game and cranked to 11. SH3 just, tonally, feels like as much of a Shadow Hearts game as something like Sunset Overdrive. Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jan 6, 2019 |
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Jan 6, 2019 03:14
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Or Lunar Dragon Song to Silver Star and Eternal Blue Expect Dragon Song is hot flaming trash garbage in a dumpster fire. Dev 1: 'hmmyes let's make our walking pace glacially slow' Dev 2: 'That sounds absolutely awful, at least give the player a run button.' Dev 1: 'ah yes that's a marvelous idea' Dev 2: 'Ok, I'll get right on th-' Dev 1: 'then we can make it so that running drains the player's hp, and mkae it so they can't run when they get below 1/3 of their hp! BRILLIANT!' Dev 2: 'wat'
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I wouldn't really call any part of Covenant grim or gritty. Dark, yes, at times. Goofy, also yes, at times. Grim, though, not as such - like the rest of the series it's fundamentally a very optimistic game, taking in a place in a world that is dangerous, but where you can also go punch the ghosts and demons in the face and win. "Gritty" really also implies something more earthy and street-level than the high fantasy that it really is.
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Mordiceius posted:Shadow Hearts 2 walks a fine line between grim grittiness and goofiness. Meanwhile, Shadow Hearts 3 is basically all goofiness and that didn't work for me. Covenant was a gigantic pile of goofiness and it was a major turn-off, so its not like FTNW started that trend. Major story beats were frequently punctuated by pussy jokes, gay jokes, dog jokes, "Bite me" etc.
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DiggleWrath posted:Dev 1: 'hmmyes let's make our walking pace glacially slow' I haven't played this game, but what the actual poo poo?! Is this an overexaggeration or genuinely how the mechanics work? Because I can't fathom anyone thinking this is a good idea, much less a game dev.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:Covenant was a gigantic pile of goofiness and it was a major turn-off, so its not like FTNW started that trend. Major story beats were frequently punctuated by pussy jokes, gay jokes, dog jokes, "Bite me" etc.
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placid saviour posted:I haven't played this game, but what the actual poo poo?! Is this an overexaggeration or genuinely how the mechanics work? Because I can't fathom anyone thinking this is a good idea, much less a game dev. https://lparchive.org/Lunar-Dragon-Song/
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placid saviour posted:I haven't played this game, but what the actual poo poo?! Is this an overexaggeration or genuinely how the mechanics work? Because I can't fathom anyone thinking this is a good idea, much less a game dev. It's not an exaggeration. And it's only the tip of the iceberg of that game's terrible design decisions.
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W.T. Fits posted:It's not an exaggeration. And it's only the tip of the iceberg of that game's terrible design decisions. Dragon song is a travesty in every single way a game can be.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Dragon song is a travesty in every single way a game can be. let's not forget you get one character's ultimate weapon about five minutes before she's permanently out of the game with zero chance of actually using it and a game in the 2000s that won't let you select your target in battle!
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Cardiovorax posted:Take the humor out of Shadow Hearts and you've just got unrelenting bleakness left, which isn't really all that great, either. Yeah. A big part of the appeal of the series is having protagonists that deal with horrible supernatural abominations by mostly laughing them off and making snarky comments. One of our major villains introduced himself in the form of an adorable puppy. Without the sense that the game isn’t taking itself all that seriously, this world would be so depressing that it’d be impossible to believe that it is even worth trying to save. Too much bleakness is a quick way to lose an audience.
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No kidding. Some genuinely horrible poo poo happens in these games. Without the humor, I think I would've checked out around Orphan Stew Central at the latest. Probably earlier.
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placid saviour posted:I haven't played this game, but what the actual poo poo?! Is this an overexaggeration or genuinely how the mechanics work? Because I can't fathom anyone thinking this is a good idea, much less a game dev. For example, you have to choose between two battle modes, one of which gets you item drops, the other of which gets you XP. You can pick whichever one you want more or less whenever, but you can't get both from the same battle.
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Accordion Man posted:From the New World is actually a good game though and not horrible. Doesn't help the new shapeshifter character and Yuri's replacement is probably the most boring heroine I've seen in a JRPG. And the bar is low.
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BioMe posted:Doesn't help the new shapeshifter character and Yuri's replacement is probably the most boring heroine I've seen in a JRPG. *Edit* Wait, there is the little Inuit girl from Never Alone, but that's pretty much it. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 6, 2019 |
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I can forgive a lot of the issues in FTNW because the changes to the combat system they made from Covenant's already very good combat system are incredible.
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dude789 posted:I can forgive a lot of the issues in FTNW because the changes to the combat system they made from Covenant's already very good combat system are incredible. Agreed. FTNW's battle system is one of the best out there for the genre.
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Never played Dragon Song here either, but on bad game mechanics, I heard that the way you ran from battles involves you breathing on the bottom of the DS. Yup, can only imagine how much fun people had there.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:Agreed. FTNW's battle system is one of the best out there for the genre. I have a friend who will go on at length about how awful the Stock system is and how it devolves almost entirely into using your stock to make sure the enemy never gets to use theirs, and how most of the characters feel like B-List versions of the Covenant party. Also that A certain characters Curvy mode is so busted it invalidates half the cast.
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In Russian, the rainbow colors are red - orange - yellow - green - light blue - blue - purple. Same in Japanese. In Japanese, the light blue is called "water blue". They seem to have an American version of the rainbow too, but not too popular. No excuse for the orange color however.
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Per Wikipedia, there's some speculation that Newton used the words "blue" and "indigo" to refer to what we would call "cyan" and "blue" today.
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Roy G. Cbv
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Shitenshi posted:Never played Dragon Song here either, but on bad game mechanics, I heard that the way you ran from battles involves you breathing on the bottom of the DS. Yup, can only imagine how much fun people had there. Oh god you have no idea. They had to shoehorn in a LOT of stuff just because the DS was new at the time. It's easily one of the worst RPGs out there IMO.
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Sgt Thud posted:I have a friend who will go on at length about how awful the Stock system is and how it devolves almost entirely into using your stock to make sure the enemy never gets to use theirs, and how most of the characters feel like B-List versions of the Covenant party. Also that A certain characters Curvy mode is so busted it invalidates half the cast. The first part is... the entire point of the battle system. lol I still got my poo poo kicked in by more than a few bosses in the game, though. That character is a bit broken, but I honestly never used them. The gimmick was at least more manageable than the equivalent character in Covenant.
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Kemix posted:Oh god you have no idea. They had to shoehorn in a LOT of stuff just because the DS was new at the time. It's easily one of the worst RPGs out there IMO. All of Dragon Song's bad decisions can be explained by the team being massively rushed to be the first RPG on the DS, regardless of quality.
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Accordion Man posted:What really sucks is that she's the only female Native American video game protagonist I can think of, even if she's from a fictitious tribe.
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