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InsertPotPun posted:What the gently caress? They started that "it's not a wall it's a ________" bullshit like a week ago right? Why are they suddenly busting it back out as if it was news? Trump's trying to make it sound like the Dems compromised to it to sell what a great negotiator he is and how he's winning. He's Trump so naturally he's not concerned about what happens 15 minutes later when the Democrats say "no we didn't" and nothing actually happens. He's gotten threw 2 years pretending to do stuff and ignoring anyone who points out it didn't happen, he'll get through 2 more.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:At one point maybe. But he’s since developed the brain worms. It's an idea that has been sitting in his worm-addled brain for years, so he thinks he understands it and doesn't get that doing it for a casino and doing it for a border wall are different.
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Not apropos of anything, but my mind still gets blown anytime someone points out that Nixon won 49 loving states at one point.
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I'm losing my poo poo catching up on all this dumb news. Can I please get a 48 hour probe so I don't go to some really dark places and post something that might get me perma'd? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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DrNutt posted:I'm losing my poo poo catching up on all this dumb news. Can I please get a 48 hour probe so I don't go to some really dark places and post something that might get me perma'd? I got day drunk at a bowling alley, I recommend that for living in Trump's America in 2019
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Mr Interweb posted:Not apropos of anything, but my mind still gets blown anytime someone points out that Nixon won 49 loving states at one point. He was so agonizingly close to losing in 68 too. He was bleeding support at the end and it’s said that if the election were just a few days later he would have lost. What might have been if Nixon never won and the Southern Strategy not validated.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's an idea that has been sitting in his worm-addled brain for years, so he thinks he understands it and doesn't get that doing it for a casino and doing it for a border wall are different. Also it usually didn't work for his casinos either. That article seemed to imply he was rebuffed in his attempts.
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Jan 7, 2019 00:17
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Crow Jane posted:I got day drunk at a bowling alley, I recommend that for living in Trump's America in 2019 I'm a loose cannon, I've been getting extremely stoned and modding the poo poo out of Skyrim, but tbh I'm not sure how much longer this can sustain me.
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Mr Interweb posted:Not apropos of anything, but my mind still gets blown anytime someone points out that Nixon won 49 loving states at one point. Voters knew about Watergate when they went to the polls. It was unfolding around them. Nixon's campaign blamed the media as if they were somehow agents of McGovern's campaign. Winning 49 states didn't do much good for Nixon however as he was really running for himself. Democrats picked up 2 seats in the Senate expandng their majority and only lost a dozen seats in the House, meaning they still had more then than they do today. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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DrNutt posted:I'm a loose cannon, I've been getting extremely stoned and modding the poo poo out of Skyrim, but tbh I'm not sure how much longer this can sustain me. Stomping Christian Europe under your boot in CK2 feels pretty good
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Ague Proof posted:Voters knew about Watergate when they went to the polls. Wellllll, kind of. They knew that it had happened, but it wasn't as clear to everybody what Nixon's role was in the break-in, nor did they realize how much he was obstructing justice. Crow Jane posted:Stomping Christian Europe under your boot in CK2 feels pretty good Please. Playing as the Byzantines, then converting to Bogomolism and replacing the Patriarchs with Matriarchs, is the only woke choice. 
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Jan 7, 2019 00:21
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It's been called more of a repudiation of McGovern rather than a vindication of Nixon.
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Jan 7, 2019 00:23
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SirPablo posted:Maybe Trump could nationalize the coal industry. Then he could run it into the ground, thus helping the US meet carbon emission goals. To shut down the coal industry you have to run it out of the ground. 
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Majorian posted:Please. Playing as the Byzantines, then converting to Bogomolism and replacing the Patriarchs with Matriarchs, is the only woke choice.
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Ague Proof posted:It's been called more of a repudiation of McGovern rather than a vindication of Nixon. Yeah McGovern ran a great primary and a hosed up general election campaign.
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Pay chuds to nail themselves together as makeshift struts. How much do you love trump, white America?
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InsertPotPun posted:What the gently caress? They started that "it's not a wall it's a ________" bullshit like a week ago right? Why are they suddenly busting it back out as if it was news? They started that months and months ago, I forget how long it's been since "a wall or a fence or whatever" (or however the idiot said it). "He didn't mean a literal wall." has been used as a talking point for a long time. e: Also, he does have a design, remember? https://twitter.com/tomtomorrow/status/1076480206913916930 RandomBlue fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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VanSandman posted:Yeah McGovern ran a great primary and a hosed up general election campaign. Nixon boosted him in the primary, as McGovern was the one he had the greatest lead against. Nixon's team sabotaged Muskie's campaign, most famously with the 'canuck letter,' but also things like this: quote:Another trick included stealing Muskie's staffers' shoes left in the hotel hallways to be polished, then throwing the shoes in the dumpster. You can see where Roger Stone was formed. Nixon's men were also trailing Ted Kennedy with Chappaquiddick poo poo. Nixon never needed to do any of this. He would have thumped Muskie too, but he became so paranoid and desperate that he overplayed his hand and caused his own downfall. Guy couldn't help himself. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Crow Jane posted:I got day drunk at a bowling alley, I recommend that for living in Trump's America in 2019 (This post is in reference to a shooting at a bowling alley, where three people were killed and four injured. You have probably forgotten about it or missed the window when it was being reported. It happened yesterday.)
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KillHour posted:He straight up thinks that if he claims they agreed to it, he gets to hold them to it and if they say "uh, no we didn't" he can call them liars and blame them for "backing out" and everyone will believe him. So literally this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oN-UsZVrKg "Its about a giant wall of steel slats we need for some reason. The Democrats already agreed." "No, we didn't." "Well, they expressed an interest." "No, we didn't." "YOU LIE!" Ague Proof posted:Voters knew about Watergate when they went to the polls. It was unfolding around them. Nixon's campaign blamed the media as if they were somehow agents of McGovern's campaign. You may notice that's also exactly what happened with Trump and Russia. But they were able to argue it down, and the smoking gun didn't emerge until later. Again, like now.
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RandomBlue posted:They started that months and months ago, I forget how long it's been since "a wall or a fence or whatever" (or however the idiot said it). "He didn't mean a literal wall." has been used as a talking point for a long time. I'd say that's two different things. The more intelligent people have been trying to shift expectations on "the Wall" for months as it became clear they were never going to get what Trump promised so they had to spin that he never promised that and it was all metaphorical so that they could spin other things as a win. A big push on that ramped up towards the end of the year because the GOP had agreed to a spending bill with the Dems and everyone expected it to pass with the 2.6B in border security but no wall funding. They were preparing to argue "we got what we wanted and what Trump promised" and move on. Then of course Ann Coulter and the like freaked out and Trump went Idiot King and demanded the Democrats give him his Wall or the government would shutdown. Right after that and right before the shutdown happened is when Trump started up the "steel slate" talk (and made that tweet) and it was clearly directly tried to a push the RWM had started making of taking old clips of Democrats arguing for various border security bills and lying and claiming they were all for "a wall." To which Trump literally said "So you just don't want it to be a wall or don't like the word? Ok, we'll call it something else/use different material." And then he like did a press conference literally saying that was why he wasn't calling it a "wall" anymore, to trick the Democrats. Shh, don't tell them.
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In honor of the 100th anniversary of the death of Teddy Rooselvelt https://twitter.com/beschlossdc/status/1082038122076983297?s=21 Dude spoke for 90 minutes after getting shot.
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Crow Jane posted:You clearly haven't played the most recent expansion, which substantially beefs up West Africa and pagans in general. And also lets you play as animals if you want. I actually have, and I'm not gonna lie, the West African tribes getting a boost was badly-needed. It's fun to actually have to, you know, take Ghana, Mali, et al., into account for once. I'm NOT loving the Byzantine succession being locked permanently into "elective," though.
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Trump literally thinks talking about steel slats is One Weird Trick to fool the Democrats into a wall It could be his lowest point so far
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theblackw0lf posted:In honor of the 100th anniversary of the death of Teddy Rooselvelt He delivered the speech anyway and when he was done went "I don't know if you know I've just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a bull moose."
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STAC Goat posted:I'd say that's two different things. The more intelligent people have been trying to shift expectations on "the Wall" for months as it became clear they were never going to get what Trump promised so they had to spin that he never promised that and it was all metaphorical so that they could spin other things as a win. A big push on that ramped up towards the end of the year because the GOP had agreed to a spending bill with the Dems and everyone expected it to pass with the 2.6B in border security but no wall funding. They were preparing to argue "we got what we wanted and what Trump promised" and move on. That's still basically the same thing except it's morphed into something even dumber where's he's publicly trying to convince both sides it's actually two different things. Except everyone can hear both conversations.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:He delivered the speech anyway and when he was done went "I don't know if you know I've just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a bull moose." Teddy Roosevelt Jr was awesome too. He was a General during WW2 and insisted on landing with his men during the first wave at D-Day and stood there under fire directing the landing. He was the oldest person in the first wave. When his request to assist the landing was approved everyone though he’d die but he not only lived, he made the landing far more successful
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I’m guessing Donald thinks also libs don’t like his child internment camps because the wallpaper isn’t aesthetically pleasing.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:Teddy Roosevelt Jr was awesome too. He was a General during WW2 and insisted on landing with his men during the first wave at D-Day and stood there under fire directing the landing. He was the oldest person in the first wave. When his request to assist the landing was approved everyone though he’d die but he not only lived, he made the landing far more successful He died just a few weeks later too.
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This entire story is amazing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Flammang_Schrank quote:Schrank did shoot Roosevelt, but the bullet lodged in Roosevelt's chest only after hitting both his steel eyeglass case and a 50-page copy of his speech titled "Progressive Cause Greater Than Any Individual", which he was carrying in his jacket pocket. As onlookers gasped and screamed, Elbert Martin, one of Roosevelt's secretaries, and an ex-football player, was the first to react, leaping at Schrank, wrestling him to the ground and seizing his gun. A. O. Girard, a former Rough Rider and bodyguard of the ex-president, and several policemen were upon Schrank at the same moment. Roosevelt stumbled, but straightened himself, and again raised his hat, with a reassuring smile upon his face. His aide, Harry Cochems, asked Roosevelt if he was hit, and Roosevelt simply said assuredly, "He pinked me, Harry".[4] As Schrank was subdued and held up on his feet, the crowd went into a frenzy. Several of the closest men around Schrank began pummeling him, and others screamed "kill him!", and "hang him!". Roosevelt, seeing what was happening, shouted to the crowd, "Don't hurt him. Bring him here. I want to see him". The crowd, hearing Roosevelt's voice, looked at Roosevelt, astonished to see him standing up and talking. A member said, "Is he okay?"; Roosevelt, with a reassuring smile, waved his hat in the air and said, "I'm alright, I'm alright". In relief, the crowd erupted in cheers, enabling four policemen to gain their way into the crowd and hold Schrank.[2] Roosevelt ordered, "Bring him to me". Schrank was led to Roosevelt, and the two men looked into each other's eyes. Putting his hands on Schrank's head so he could look at him, and to determine if he had seen him before, Roosevelt said to Schrank, "What did you do it for?" Getting no response, he said, "Oh, what's the use? Turn him over to the police". As police held Schrank, Roosevelt looked down at him, and said "You poor creature." Roosevelt ordered, "Officers, take charge of him, and see that there is no violence done to him".[4] Girard and another officer led Schrank away into the hotel, as the crowd booed at him, and applauded for Roosevelt, abiding by his wishes. Roosevelt gave another reassuring tip of the hat to the crowd, before he took off in his car. Schrank was led into the kitchen, where he was turned over to the local police. An amazing combination of strength and compasison.
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theblackw0lf posted:In honor of the 100th anniversary of the death of Teddy Rooselvelt Apparently the story is he coughed when the bullet hit him, and when he didn't cough up blood decided it wasn't a serious wound and kept going.
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RaspberryCommie posted:Apparently the story is he coughed when the bullet hit him, and when he didn't cough up blood decided it wasn't a serious wound and kept going. Yea quote:Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not reached his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt.[10][11] He spoke for 90 minutes before completing his speech and accepting medical attention. His opening comments to the gathered crowd were, "Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."[12][13] How has this not been made into a movie?
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RandomBlue posted:That's still basically the same thing except it's morphed into something even dumber where's he's publicly trying to convince both sides it's actually two different things. Except everyone can hear both conversations. I mean, I think we're splitting hairs and its not really worth it but I'd say the first was the more sane members of the party just trying to spin it while the latter is Trump and idiots thinking they can just trick the Democrats with said spin. Again, I think its the same larger problem they have is that half their people including the President believe their lies. Its hard to keep the con working right when every time you turn your back half the staff is sneaking sips of Kool Aid.
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theblackw0lf posted:
It happened during his 1912 run, against Taft and Wilson, and he ended up splitting the vote and Wilson won. Wilson doesn't get a movie because he was a gigantic racist.
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theblackw0lf posted:Yea Because it's barely believable. He lost his wife and his mother on the same day. You put that in a movie and people would just roll their eyes.
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The only movie Woodrow Wilson deserves to be in is a inflammatory documentary about Birth of a Nation and how that was his personal favorite film. And speaking of that, why is there a loving Dick Cheney film?
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