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phasmid posted:I can watch some of his movies for nostalgia and even though nothing he does interests me now, he's a brilliant director and pretty much only thinks about entertaining the audience. One movie I never watched was AI because it was supposed to be more of a Kubrick movie and one gets the feeling that Spielberg would have made a lot of changes and you'd be left with "this movie could have been so much better". gently caress Spielberg generally (Schindler's List and uh a bunch of other things notwithstanding) but watch AI It's Pinocchio but with Oedipal issues!
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phasmid posted:One movie I never watched was AI because it was supposed to be more of a Kubrick movie and one gets the feeling that Spielberg would have made a lot of changes and you'd be left with "this movie could have been so much better". AI makes me incredibly angry. It's obvious where Spielberg made changes for the worse.
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AI has 5 acts and is like 3 hours long and is really fuckin' boring. I felt immense relief when it was over. Nearly identical watching experience as bicentennial man with robin williams. And I love old school sci-fi mentality, I've read and loved a ton of asimov, arthur c. clark, and phillip k. dick.
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Olaf The Stout posted:AI has 5 acts and is like 3 hours long and is really fuckin' boring. I felt immense relief when it was over. Nearly identical watching experience as bicentennial man with robin williams. And I love old school sci-fi mentality, I've read and loved a ton of asimov, arthur c. clark, and phillip k. dick. Robin Williams is in AI 
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syscall girl posted:gently caress Spielberg generally (Schindler's List and uh a bunch of other things notwithstanding) but watch AI Not really sure where this mentality is coming from. First, Raiders of the Lost Ark basically gives Spielberg a pass for everything ever in my view, but he's made a lot of great popcorn movies. Yeah, his movies haven't been as good recently, but he still has a good eye and even his bad movies are still very watchable.
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MichiganCubbie posted:Not really sure where this mentality is coming from. First, Raiders of the Lost Ark basically gives Spielberg a pass for everything ever in my view, but he's made a lot of great popcorn movies. Yeah, his movies haven't been as good recently, but he still has a good eye and even his bad movies are still very watchable. It's just his dialogue with George Lucas re Raiders that ruined him for me
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Olaf The Stout posted:AI has 5 acts and is like 3 hours long and is really fuckin' boring. I felt immense relief when it was over. Nearly identical watching experience as bicentennial man with robin williams. And I love old school sci-fi mentality, I've read and loved a ton of asimov, arthur c. clark, and phillip k. dick. People made fun of the EE version of LotR for having 14 endings but my god I was yelling at the screen for AI to loving END ALREADY THE END MOTHERFUCKER, SAY IT!
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Jan 8, 2019 01:45
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That Every Frame a Painting YouTube channel had a thing on Spielberg and his extended one shot scenes. Even a dogshit movie like Always had John Goodman in a no-cut shot coordinated with a loving 747 passing overhead. Spielberg may not be the best at any one thing, but he's probably consistently better at the movie-making process than any other director.
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Krispy Wafer posted:That Every Frame a Painting YouTube channel had a thing on Spielberg and his extended one shot scenes. Even a dogshit movie like Always had John Goodman in a no-cut shot coordinated with a loving 747 passing overhead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4X2vDRfRk Its a drat shame he's not making these videos any more. One of the best series for explaining the craft of cinema.
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Krispy Wafer posted:That Every Frame a Painting YouTube channel had a thing on Spielberg and his extended one shot scenes. Even a dogshit movie like Always had John Goodman in a no-cut shot coordinated with a loving 747 passing overhead. There is very very little to criticize about Spielberg. I just pick on that one little thing. I don't like all his movies but BoB? Saving Private Ryan scarred my young self in a good way And Schindler's List, forget about it
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I appreciate Spielberg's craftsmanship, even when he veers into sentimentality. A.I. is a great example of this; the film looks great & the story moves along well, but his focus on the unrequited love of the robot towards its mother is what sinks the movie IMO. You know that if Kubrick was directing it, the tone would've been a lot colder (and funnier). I remember watching Ready Player One and thinking, "This movie has a dumb story but man Spielberg can direct." The spart of the movie when the heroes get to the Overlook Hotel had me go 
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Empire of the Sun was one of my all time favorites. I tried watching it with friends and they made fun of Christian Bale the entire time and I never volunteered another opinion on movies around them again.
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Android Apocalypse posted:I appreciate Spielberg's craftsmanship, even when he veers into sentimentality. A.I. is a great example of this; the film looks great & the story moves along well, but his focus on the unrequited love of the robot towards its mother is what sinks the movie IMO. You know that if Kubrick was directing it, the tone would've been a lot colder (and funnier). Something about ready player one makes me enjoy watching it but in a weird shameful way. The movie seems to slow to a crawl anytime they leave the game world, though. I would have been more than happy with one and a half hours of cgi action and pop culture references.
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Jan 8, 2019 06:46
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Gejimayu posted:One of my favorite things about Spielberg is his respect for his actors/crew. The way he treated his child actors is 90% why he got such amazing performances in his most iconic films featuring child actors. I recall the Home Alone kid or whoever got molested by half of Hollywood said he only trusts Steven Spielberg and Michael Jackson.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I recall the Home Alone kid or whoever got molested by half of Hollywood said he only trusts Steven Spielberg and Michael Jackson. Are you talking about corey feldman?
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Olaf The Stout posted:Are you talking about corey feldman? That sounds about right. In retrospect, it seems the best argument for Michael Jackson's innocence is that if he really was a pedophile, Hollywood would have put way more effort into covering it up.
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Jan 8, 2019 09:27
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Corey Feldman’s autobiography trips balls. The man is completely delusional about almost everything except child molestation. On that subject he should probably be leading a multinational task force and be considered an expert. He’s especially delusional about his music. Holy poo poo his album on Spotify.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Corey Feldman’s autobiography trips balls. The man is completely delusional about almost everything except child molestation. On that subject he should probably be leading a multinational task force and be considered an expert. He's hosed up enough in the head that he did a whole "Don't bully me" campaign when everyone pointed out how lovely his music is, and yet the contracts he makes his "Corey's Angels" sign are loving gross. They're restricted as to what kind of clothing they wear and food they eat, they can't hang around other men, and they have to submit themselves to being "teachable"
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If we're talking about Spielberg, Duel is his first film and even on a TV movie budget it's still fantastic.
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Jan 8, 2019 21:53
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Oh drat. Just realized when thanos gets axed and ports out, there's tiny little green dots around the wound showing he used the time stone to fix it.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Oh drat. Just realized when thanos gets axed and ports out, there's tiny little green dots around the wound showing he used the time stone to fix it. It is actually a good thing that insane nerds have grown up to the point where they get gigs on this stuff
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phasmid posted:I can watch some of his movies for nostalgia and even though nothing he does interests me now, he's a brilliant director and pretty much only thinks about entertaining the audience. One movie I never watched was AI because it was supposed to be more of a Kubrick movie and one gets the feeling that Spielberg would have made a lot of changes and you'd be left with "this movie could have been so much better". When David finally meets the blue fairy, stop watching. If you see frozen seas, you've watched too much.
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AI was a film with a rich and varied world backstory and incredible visuals that really makes you think about what happens to your Tamagotchi after you get tired of it. The scene where he tries to eat food freaked me out.
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I think The Big Lebowski's denouement has a subtle effect. It's the end of the story, and the filmmakers are gently easing you out of movieland. The scene starts with a guy making a perfect strike, and then the narrator returns and break the fourth wall to remind you that it's just a story. And then after a relatively long single-shot take (2:43), the camera tracks over and gazes on a bowler just stroll up and casually nail another perfect strike. It's not just a perfect aesthetic end to the film; the length of the take combined with the perfect strikes might also make people snap back to reality to awe at how hard it must have been for the creators to get that shot right. The narrator's return and the stunts combine to gracefully eject the viewer from movieland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwbKkNUyE64
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There are so many subtle moments in The Big Lebowski it's goddamned ridiculous. Remember how The Dude hates the band The Eagles? Check out what song is playing in the background of the scene where their arch rival Jesus is introduced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWz8NGIisMo Also Donny is the only one of the three who ever wears a bowling shirt to the bowling alley (The Dude wears one when they're scattering Donny's ashes, probably as a memorial to him), but he wears a different bowling shirt in every scene and it always has someone else's name embroidered on it:  Also Donny always bowls a perfect strike except for the very last time he bowls, and immediately after that he sits down and starts rubbing his bowling arm like it's aching. Moments later he has a heart attack. Remember the crazy dream sequence where all sorts of random weird poo poo happens, like Saddam Hussein handing him his bowling shoes and Maude is dressed as a Valkyrie with a trident? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z92bykaeV4o .... except almost none of it is random, pretty much everything is a callback to something from earlier in the film quote:Nearly all of the visible symbols in The Dude's second dream sequence are taken from earlier scenes: The initial scene of The Dude's exaggerated walking while casting a big shadow is similar to his landlord's interpretive dance to "Pictures at an Exhibition"; the black and white tiled floor is seen earlier in the Big Lebowski's entry way when The Dude walks with Brandt, and again at the end; the tool belt and workman outfit The Dude is seen wearing is identical to the one worn by Karl Hungus (Peter Stormare) in Logjammin'; Saddam Hussein, who is standing behind the counter, is mentioned briefly by Walter in the car outside the bowling alley, we hear President George H.W. Bush comment on the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, and in the opening credits, we see a man looking a bit similar to Saddam spraying the bowling shoes at the alley; Maude's gold bowling ball bra cups are taken from bowling balls seen on the rack behind Walter in an earlier scene at the bowling alley; Maude Lebowski's trident is from a statue at The Big Lebowski's house; the red-on-black bowling ball is the same as the one in the earlier dream sequence and is also visible on the rack behind Walter and The Dude at the bowling alley; the topless girl falling through a black frame is almost the same shot that opened the scene in which The Dude shows up at Jackie Treehorn's party; the scissors wielded by the red-clad nihilists are seen in a painting with a red background on Maude's wall.     It's also the only scene in the entire movie where you see The Dude actually bowling and even then Maude was the one holding the ball, The Dude is just guiding her arm. This is just scratching the surface, there's so much more Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 00:26 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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minato posted:I think The Big Lebowski's denouement has a subtle effect. It's the end of the story, and the filmmakers are gently easing you out of movieland. The scene starts with a guy making a perfect strike, and then the narrator returns and break the fourth wall to remind you that it's just a story. And then after a relatively long single-shot take (2:43), the camera tracks over and gazes on a bowler just stroll up and casually nail another perfect strike. Also, the dude who nails the strikes isnt just ANY dude he was/is a professional bowler and was the technical advisor for all of the bowling in the film. I saw an interview with Bridges/Goodman/Buscemi and they said he would always hit the strike. Every single take. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Asher
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My Lovely Horse posted:It would be especially cool if they used timeline vignettes for What If comedy bits. To build on this (there’s no way in hell they’d do this) but I’d love to see an Alternative reality Avengers pop up in a scene and each character is played by the actors who almost got the role I.e. Tom Cruise as Iron Man, Glenn Howerton as Starlord and Joaquin Phoenix as Strange to name a few
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gently caress me I watched The Big Lebowski just this weekend and was just like haha he's drinking another White Russian, hilarious
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Popeahuntis posted:To build on this (there’s no way in hell they’d do this) but I’d love to see an Alternative reality Avengers pop up in a scene and each character is played by the actors who almost got the role I.e. Tom Cruise as Iron Man, Glenn Howerton as Starlord and Joaquin Phoenix as Strange to name a few I'd like a live action Spiderverse movie with the previous Spider-Men. Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield, Nicholas Hammond and Shinki Todo all teaming up with Tom Holland to fight... something. Whatever it is, it would grow into a giant monster at the end so Japanese Spider-Man can call on Leopardon to save the day. Oh, and there's a funny scene where they meet their equivalents from our world, who are just the actors as themselves.
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Sunswipe posted:Oh, and there's a funny scene where they meet their equivalents from our world, who are just the actors as themselves. So...Last Action Hero then? I was disappointed that in Spider-Verse, (very minor spoilers not even going to hide) they didn't make 'current' universe Spider-Man from the Tobey McGuire storylines and alternate universe 40-year old Spider-Man from the Andrew Garfield one. They both seem to be the same kind of Spider-Men, just older and younger. Also Spider-Man Noir is pretty cheap on Kindle and is really good.
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Imagined posted:I really have a hard time putting my finger on why the retroactive millennial Freddie Mercury worship bugs me. You see lots of teenagers online tripping over themselves to proclaim how much their peers' music sucks and how Queen was "real music". Freddie was a fabulous frontman and a very entertaining and supremely talented singer. Queen were a fun band. But they were neither particularly original nor substantive. There's a place for that, but the kids who worship them don't seem to also appreciate any other classic music. Just Queen. Ogre battle,march of the black queen,take my breath away,great king rat, are the best queen songs,everything else is great to not great.
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My Lovely Horse posted:gently caress me I watched The Big Lebowski just this weekend and was just like haha he's drinking another White Russian, hilarious Hey man, those drinks really tied the movie together. When we first see The Dude he's making a late night supermarket run to buy a carton of half-and-half which was obviously for his White Russians. Later in the film Maude was also out of cream so The Dude had to resort to using powdered creamer when he was mixing his drink.  Something else which I only just noticed: the first few shots of the film are of a tumbleweed blowing in from the hills, passing through LA and ending up at the sea. At one point it rolls down the centre of the boulevard, just like a bowling ball rolling down a lane:  Also I'm pretty sure the uniforms that are worn by the dancing girls in the dream sequence are a callback to the colour scheme in the bowling alley, specifically the ball return machines:  
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My Lovely Horse posted:gently caress me I watched The Big Lebowski just this weekend and was just like haha he's drinking another White Russian, hilarious
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I've started watching this movie a few times and I just don't get it. My wife was taken to see it in a big theatre by her job and she doesn't get it either. What are we missing?
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Beachcomber posted:I've started watching this movie a few times and I just don't get it. My wife was taken to see it in a big theatre by her job and she doesn't get it either. A sense of humor?
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Beachcomber posted:I've started watching this movie a few times and I just don't get it. My wife was taken to see it in a big theatre by her job and she doesn't get it either. I'm a big Coen brothers fan and I readily admit to not getting some of their films. Big Lebowski was a movie I had to watch a couple of times to enjoy. Fargo was the same. I still don't like Barton Fink. I think the problem is for all their similar themes the movies are very different. You can't go into Fargo expecting Raising Arizona. It's a different kind of comedy. I hated Buster Scruggs the first time I saw it, but it grew on me after a few viewings. About the only films I liked on the first viewing were Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy, and No Country for Old Men. If I can get through 4 or 5 viewings of Ladykillers I might eventually like that film too. EDIT: there appears to be an underlining cruelty to Coen brothers movies. I think that's what throws me off if I'm not expecting it or can't reconcile it with the humor. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 00:50 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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Beachcomber posted:I've started watching this movie a few times and I just don't get it. My wife was taken to see it in a big theatre by her job and she doesn't get it either. The jokes? If you don't like it that's  Everyone doesn't have to like everything
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Krispy Wafer posted:I'm a big Coen brothers fan and I readily admit to not getting some of their films. Big Lebowski was a movie I had to watch a couple of times to enjoy. Fargo was the same. I still don't like Barton Fink. Buster Scruggs was a mean movie. I tried to defend it re: Tom Waits the Prospector He had a good-ish outcome. The woman on the Oregon Trail should have played the game first to see what her likely outcome was.
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Krispy Wafer posted:
That might be why we don't like literally every movie you listed, so thanks for the revelation. 
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Krispy Wafer posted:I'm a big Coen brothers fan and I readily admit to not getting some of their films. Big Lebowski was a movie I had to watch a couple of times to enjoy. Fargo was the same. I still don't like Barton Fink. Big Coen brothers fan who is either mystified by or actively dislikes their best movies. Interesting
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