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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Trump sticks to demand for border wall funding as shutdown drags on

quote:

The Trump White House maintained its hard line on funding for a border wall in a letter Sunday to congressional leaders, demanding $5.7 billion for construction of a barrier as the partial government shutdown heads into its third week after weekend talks.

The wall is “central to any strategy,” Russell T. Vought, acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote, asking for funds for “234 miles of new physical barrier.”

But the two-page letter, which was obtained by The Washington Post, also provided new details on Trump’s position, which has largely consisted of ultimatums and tweets amid stalled negotiations with Democrats, by listing funding requests for his immigration agenda across the federal government.

Note that the Post got the letter like instantly, and that the administration is trying to bargain, shifting their position and offering (really badly structured) side offers in an attempt to split Dem support. The WH is cracking, and they're making it obvious that they're cracking.

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Unfortunately she won't be old enough to run for president until 2025, so 2028 at the soonest.

That's a good thing imo. Gives her a chance to really experience the lack of fucks capital really gives about people who work for a living.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Unfortunately she won't be old enough to run for president until 2025, so 2028 at the soonest.

Mustached Demon posted:

That's a good thing imo. Gives her a chance to really experience the lack of fucks capital really gives about people who work for a living.

I'm seriously concerned there will be an attempt on her life in the mean time if she maintains this level of energy and coverage.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Mustached Demon posted:

That's a good thing imo. Gives her a chance to really experience the lack of fucks capital really gives about people who work for a living.

Schumer is up in 2022. She will have 4 years in Congress by then and she'd have the vote of every under-35 in the state. I think if she primaried his useless rear end it would be a coup of epic proportions.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

AlternateNu posted:

I'm seriously concerned there will be an attempt on her life in the mean time if she maintains this level of energy and coverage.
Fortunately, based on how every other attack on her has gone, the shooter will end up shooting himself in the dick.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

AlternateNu posted:

I'm seriously concerned there will be an attempt on her life in the mean time if she maintains this level of energy and coverage.

Then she'll become more powerful than any GOPer or centrist (not 100% overlap) could possibly imagine.

Really though chill. Leave that worry to her security. There's absolutely nothing you can do.

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Peacoffee posted:

I was mostly referring to the provisions under states of emergency, drug trafficking, and border security, which as far as I know still sweep a lot of decision making into the executive branch. Although it's less that I expect these laws would uphold how they are used in justifying actions, and more that there's a lot of arguments someone could make with the patriot act that have yet to materialize in all this time.

It's a pretty big stretch to simply declare an emergency, use it to order the military to do all sorts of normal civilian government things in spite of public opposition, and then expect both the courts and congress to just wipe their hands of the issue. If you accept that kind of loophole around democratic government, there isn't much that can't be driven through it. It's basically just a dictatorship. On the other hand, President AOC could just declare a public health emergency and institute a national health system by fiat, and no one could say a word against it.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Good news for a change

https://twitter.com/RobbinSimmons7/status/1082106155470606336

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat

Except....

https://twitter.com/shaunking/statu...genumber%3D1350

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

If he's sure they're the one's that shot her, what does it matter if the time line is off? She's a little girl, there are no extenuating circumstances.


Now for something else,
You're God Damned Right
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1082134909672718337

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person


Odds are that they already have significant brain damage from years of childhood football already.

Lil Mama Im Sorry
Oct 14, 2012

I'M BACK AND I'M SCARIN' WHITE FOLKS
hell yeah




double nine
Aug 8, 2013

the crickets came from inside the house the russian embassy!

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

So you don’t believe that the folks sent home with brain damage didn’t actually suffer brain damage?

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

Discendo Vox posted:

Trump sticks to demand for border wall funding as shutdown drags on


Note that the Post got the letter like instantly, and that the administration is trying to bargain, shifting their position and offering (really badly structured) side offers in an attempt to split Dem support. The WH is cracking, and they're making it obvious that they're cracking.

I hope he gets some funding for the wall just so a democratic candidate for president can yell, "Mr. President, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL" directly in his stupid face and he'll just blink and look confused by the reference.

Lil Mama Im Sorry
Oct 14, 2012

I'M BACK AND I'M SCARIN' WHITE FOLKS

Solkanar512 posted:

So you don’t believe that the folks sent home with brain damage didn’t actually suffer brain damage?

clearly their brains were damaged before they became american diplomats

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

clearly their brains were damaged before they became american diplomats

Conservatism is a type of brain damage

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
This is a real bad sign :(

https://mobile.twitter.com/NPR/status/1082287954595401728

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

...she is recovering from the surgery she had on her lung to remove the two cancerous nodules they found. FYI, she voted the next day--from her hospital bed--on a SCOTUS case.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Fritz Coldcockin posted:

...she is recovering from the surgery she had on her lung to remove the two cancerous nodules they found. FYI, she voted the next day--from her hospital bed--on a SCOTUS case.

... and is still participating in cases, since justices don't actually do all that much and being present at oral arguments only matters if you're trying to change someone else's mind (which kagan's probably the best suited for anyways)

Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm
https://twitter.com/JohnDingell/status/1082329588804603906

:fuckoff: Scott Walker

Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm
Happy New Year.

https://twitter.com/Tennessean/status/1082322754743918596

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


Uh, August 7th is 8 months away. WTF?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
The music industry is turning against R. Kelly, as Chance the Rapper joins John Legend in condemning him.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1082347305699889157

his first oval office address. probably gonna try to declare a national emergency.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Hold on to your butts, everyone. 2019 is in fine form already.

quote:

A Fake Nude of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Was Debunked By Foot Fetishists
Wikifeet foiled an attempt to shame the congresswoman with a fake Instagram post.


An image that’s being passed off as a nude of congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was debunked as being fake by a foot fetishist on Reddit—because that’s the future we’re living in now.

On Sunday, someone posted a photo of a woman’s legs and feet in a bathtub on one of Reddit’s most popular forums, r/Drama. The post is titled “MOMMY'S TITTIES ON THE FAUCET,” with a photo of feet in a tub from the photographer’s point of view, holding a vape pen. Overlaid on the photo is the text “alexandria ocasio-cortez.instagram.post.9-3-2016.”

The image and text aren’t new—they’ve been around in this combination since at least last month, posted to Twitter and 4chan’s /pol/ political forums, as well as a handful of other subreddits and forums, including some dedicated to revenge porn and creepshots. The conceit here is that if you zoom in to the faucet reflection, you can see the photographer’s breasts, and if you’re to believe the text on the image, that’s Ocasio-Cortez.

But the person in the photo isn’t her.

We don’t know how many people actually believed it was her in the first place, and in some of the forums where the image was posted, people were already comparing feet and questioning whether it’s really her. But we know for sure thanks to a user on a site called Wikifeet, a site devoted to foot fetish photos of celebrities and public figures. There’s a small collection of Ocasio-Cortez’s feet on the site, from photos of public appearances where she’s wearing sandals or open-toed shoes. That user cross-referenced the r/drama photo with known images of Ocasio-Cortez’s feet posted on Wikifeet and determined that they are from a different person.

“I'm a contributor to wikifeet and even I have never seen a second toe like that!” Reddit user jokes_on_you commented on the post. They then linked to a known photo of Ocasio-Cortez’s feet and implied that the feet in the r/drama post couldn’t possibly belong to her. I asked jokes_on_you how they spotted the difference. "I’ve sucked enough toes in my life to recognize when something doesn’t look right," they told me in a Reddit direct message. "Because we can’t dorsi- or plantarflex our 2nd-5th toes independently I knew it wasn’t a matter of the toe being bent. I thought that maybe she has some form of brachydactyly but her Wikifeet page has clear evidence to the contrary. So it was clear to me that it wasn’t her feet."

The photo, as well as the feet, actually belong to Sydney Leathers, a political activist and cam model who you might recall from Anthony Weiner’s sexting investigation in 2016. Leathers confirmed in a Twitter direct message that the original photograph does, in fact, belong to her and features her feet. “That pic is a few years old and now reaffirms my current stance of no longer posting feet pics unless dudes pay me for it,” Leathers told me.

In Leathers' original photo, the second toe of her left foot is longer than in the Reddit repost and the Ocasio-Cortez-text images elsewhere.

"As the internet has grown, it’s become increasingly segregated and debunking false information is more difficult," jokes_on_you told me. "For all I know, there are Facebook groups and forums where the veracity of this image isn’t doubted and there are definitely countless other fake images floating around. It’s relatively easier to ban the big names (e.g. Alex Jones) from media sites but it’s impractical to police everything that goes on. Now we also have governments and well-funded organizations with sophisticated online strategies to promote unrest or certain political positions. This issue will get worse before it gets better."

Last week, a video of Ocasio-Cortez dancing in college gained viral attention after a right-wing account tried to pass off a dubbed-over clip from the incredibly wholesome video as something scandalous. They superimposed it with drums and made it a supercut of Ocasio-Cortez’s appearances in the video—making it seem like she’d been dancing alone, somewhat provocatively. It illustrated how easy it is to make a sloppy cut of something real, and place it in a new context to try to smear someone’s image.

You don’t need advanced machine learning techniques or high-tech psyop campaigns to make people believe a lie—we’re primed to fall for memes like this. At least this time, a trained eye of a foot fetishist revealed the truth.

Update, 3p.m. January 7, 2019: This article has been updated to include comment from Reddit user jokes_on_you.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

Moktaro posted:

There's an Emergency Broadcast System-themed video to that point on YouTube, with Trump going insane and chud militias fighting police in DC. And ending in nuclear launches. :ohdear:

Quoting myself for link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvaYp2u4SI

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
This really isn't surprising; I expect there are already deepfakes of AOC and others already being passed around. And there's nothing anyone can really do about it.

In this regard, the internet was a mistake.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OAquinas posted:

This really isn't surprising; I expect there are already deepfakes of AOC and others already being passed around. And there's nothing anyone can really do about it.

In this regard, the internet was a mistake.

Foot fetishists debunking it immediately is a new twist, though.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1082347305699889157

his first oval office address. probably gonna try to declare a national emergency.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1082366619463155713

I would love to see a return to Fairness Doctrine standards, mainly because it would end Fox News as we know it.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Hold on to your butts, everyone. 2019 is in fine form already.

quote:

The photo, as well as the feet, actually belong to Sydney Leathers, a political activist and cam model who you might recall from Anthony Weiner’s sexting investigation in 2016.

This is clearly a coverup because BUT HER EMAILS.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Hold on to your butts, everyone. 2019 is in fine form already.

Functional crowd-sourcing? Be still my heart.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Foot fetishists debunking it immediately is a new twist, though.

Maybe not immediately. They probably did something else first.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Thanks!

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.


I think the real scary part is how much of the prelude has actually happened (or close enough). :v:

Smiley added in case anyone thought I was being serious.

Moktaro fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jan 7, 2019

Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm
https://twitter.com/navybook/status/1082364047398449152

edit: https://wjla.com/news/local/activist-group-commissions-khashoggi-way-street-signs-places-them-around-dc

Mister Mind fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jan 7, 2019

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1082347305699889157

his first oval office address. probably gonna try to declare a national emergency.
Nice of him to give the ACLU, Dems and anyone else who wants to oppose this in court a heads up so they can get their ducks in a row and be ready to file immediately.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
1https://twitter.com/MattxRed/status/1082347319159373825
2https://twitter.com/politico/status/1082424630508433408
3https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1081966342603821057
4https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1082347625310011392
5https://twitter.com/markos/status/1082435803119112192
6https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1082446006627827712
7https://twitter.com/KevinWhitelaw1/status/1082360527425323008
8https://twitter.com/neel_shah/status/1079479347852005377
9https://twitter.com/neel_shah/status/1079485081654362112
10https://twitter.com/nahaltoosi/status/1082381566846877697
11https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1082446845647962113
12https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1082450339125780481
13https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1082449013180370946
14https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1082359410276601856
15https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1082446056800112640
16https://twitter.com/KristenOrthman/status/1082386488166440967
17https://twitter.com/truthout/status/1082422883933212672
18https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/1082441832733261825
19https://twitter.com/APCentralRegion/status/1082254284362866688
20https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1082449711032909824
21https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1082356664358064129
https://i.imgur.com/ipUmtds.gifv

Lil Mama Im Sorry
Oct 14, 2012

I'M BACK AND I'M SCARIN' WHITE FOLKS
22. https://www.advocate.com/crime/2019/1/07/another-black-man-has-died-home-democratic-donor-ed-buck?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1082492441020661761

quote:

After the delegation noticed that the EU's Washington ambassador had not been invited to certain events late last year, officials organizing the state funeral for President George H.W. Bush provided final confirmation to EU diplomats that the status of the representation had in fact been downgraded. Diplomats believe the downgrade must have been implemented in late October or early November.

At the high-profile event on December 5, as diplomats gathered in Washington to pay their respects, the EU's ambassador to Washington, David O'Sullivan, was not called up in the usual chronological order from the longest-serving to the newest ambassador, said the EU official. "But he was called up as the last person."

Prior to the demotion, O'Sullivan — who has served as the EU's ambassador to Washington since 2014 — would have been ranked among the first 20 or 30 ambassadors of the more than 150 foreign representatives dispatched to the US capital.

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