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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You're already getting called out for saying a brown woman standing up for herself is having a "meltdown" right? I have high standards for her. I want her to act more like "gently caress it, I got work to do. I don't have time for this." e: please look at my dog 
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I thought AOC was getting disproportionate attention because she got her seat but crushing one of the most powerful D's in Congress in the primary.
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Tayter Swift posted:WaPo is reporting that the White Houseis making arrangements to have tax refunds go through. IRS folk will be unfurloughed. This timeline is so stupid that in a few months every department and branch of the government will be unfurloguhed/backpaid/etc. due to special arrangements but still technically shut down on paper so that Trump can still whine continuously about how we are still shutdown because of 17 Angry Democrats who want to Destroy our southern Border or whatever.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:23
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Gort posted:Of course, anyone who's not an old white man will suffer ten thousand times the scrutiny and backlash but technically everyone is accountable to some degree Haha omg. Holding politicians accountable for their words and actions is racist now.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:24
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Tayter Swift posted:WaPo is reporting that the White Houseis making arrangements to have tax refunds go through. IRS folk will be unfurloughed. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1082378913102278656
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Jan 7, 2019 22:24
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VitalSigns posted:Haha omg. Goddrat you're disingenuous. That is NOT what that poster was saying at all. EDIT: Maybe you misread things constantly, but this is a Thing for you.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:24
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VitalSigns posted:Haha omg. No...? Holding politicians accountable for their words and actions is not racist. Holding politicians accountable for their words and actions to different degrees based on things like age, ethnicity, wealth and gender is horseshit and happens constantly.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:26
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Sanguinia posted:I thought AOC was getting disproportionate attention because she got her seat but crushing one of the most powerful D's in Congress in the primary. True, which is why the conservative establishment focuses so much fire on her. They're afraid the democrats are having their own tea party moment where genuine leftists are seizing the reigns of power.
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Sanguinia posted:I thought AOC was getting disproportionate attention because she got her seat but crushing one of the most powerful D's in Congress in the primary. I look forward to her crushing a lot of D's
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Jan 7, 2019 22:27
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Lightning Knight posted:So is Pressley? Or at least I'm 99% sure she was DSA endorsed. She's endorsed by the Boston chapter but is not, to anyone's knowledge, a member. She's functionally a part of that coalition, though. She's on the Green New Deal, all the DSA members of Congress endorsed her, etc.
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Priapus Unbound posted:Are you perhaps referring to this painting of John Brown? modern progressives could take a page or two out of john brown's playbook.
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Gort posted:No...? Priapus Unbound: "it's bad that AOC gets so much support because if she does something bad one day she will get criticized" Me: "politicians should be held accountable when they do something bad" You: Gort posted:Of course, anyone who's not an old white man will suffer ten thousand times the scrutiny and backlash but technically everyone is accountable to some degree I'm curious what your solution is, because you seem to be saying that if we hold anyone accountable, WoC will inevitably be criticized more so the alternative is...what?
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You know what's even better then not getting my tax refund due to the shutdown? UNCERTAINTY about not getting my tax refund due to the shutdown. I'm so glad that I don't need that money this year... sort of. I'll have my refund before my September wedding, right? No way they'll still be shutdown, right?
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Rinkles posted:i'm her age. i have no idea how i'd survive a day in her shoes. Chris Cizilla parachute account?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You're already getting called out for saying a brown woman standing up for herself is having a "meltdown" right? Her frantically digging and going "Oh yeah I was wrong once but Trump is wrong like a million times" is not how to parry this. She should be active and not reactive.
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I hate how there are dozens "may be illegal" reports that come out about the Trump Administration every week. 1) It either is illegal or is not illegal, don't even report on it until you know. 2) It doesn't matter if it's illegal, they do tons of illegal stuff every day, but nobody is holding them accountable and they face no consequences, so it doesn't matter.
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One of my favorite parts of these threads is KM popping in and saying "hey remember that even thought you're a leftist and your heart is in the right place you can still be promoting racist structures" and a bunch of posters going "NO IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT"
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Jan 7, 2019 22:32
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Republicans posted:True, which is why the conservative establishment focuses so much fire on her. They're afraid the democrats are having their own tea party moment where genuine leftists are seizing the reigns of power. You've got to hold the reins (a cord used for steering a horse) in order to reign (the rule of a sovereign).
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Jan 7, 2019 22:32
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Crows Turn Off posted:2) It doesn't matter if it's illegal, they do tons of illegal stuff every day, but nobody is holding them accountable and they face no consequences, so it doesn't matter. The courts consistently blocking Trump's illegal actions has been far and away the most consistent barrier to Trump's agenda.
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Crows Turn Off posted:I hate how there are dozens "may be illegal" reports that come out about the Trump Administration every week. Trump is held accountable by the courts all of the time it’s just that he does so much poo poo that we see some high profile stuff slip through the cracks.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:33
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VitalSigns posted:Priapus Unbound: "it's bad that AOC gets so much support because if she does something bad one day she will get criticized" Also a misreading of what I said, which was that when AOC does do something bad, the backlash is likely to be more horrific than really warranted as the people with weird parasocial crushes on her go rabid with blind betrayed rage. Then their point was that the backlash would likely be worse than it is for other politicians because society is better at dumping on some groups than others.
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The govt will be shutdown and money wont be flowing to our govt employees, but you know for whom the money is going to be flowing? All those rich assholes that play the tax system game. I hate everything.
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VH4Ever posted:You skipped over a generation, don't forget the X'ers. Not as many of them as boomers but they're the old men of the future. Gen X is just the silent generation v2.0
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Jan 7, 2019 22:34
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So this is our January meme huh https://twitter.com/Scouse_ma/status/1081898732050935808
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Crows Turn Off posted:I hate how there are dozens "may be illegal" reports that come out about the Trump Administration every week. I expect that a union representing some of the IRS workers brought back is going to fight this one because it will force their members to work without pay.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:35
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Z. Autobahn posted:The courts consistently blocking Trump's illegal actions has been far and away the most consistent barrier to Trump's agenda. What if the IRS does it anyway? What happened when the Trump Administration didn't re-unite separated families despite the court giving them a strict deadline?
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VitalSigns posted:I'm curious what your solution is, because you seem to be saying that if we hold anyone accountable, WoC will inevitably be criticized more so the alternative is...what? Criticise the fuckers who deserve it instead of those who are already targeted for criticism at a thousand times the volume for a thousandth of the fault. There's a loving orange elephant in the room, my dude. Punch up.
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Ague Proof posted:Chris Cizilla parachute account? god drat you
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Crows Turn Off posted:Yeah, the courts have stopped a lot of their actions, but being told to "stop doing that" isn't a consequence. Why would they? You know many accountants who work on an IOU?
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Priapus Unbound posted:From the Guardian live feed, through Maggie Haberman's twitter:  Trump will soon be the first Cabinet to be a one man show
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Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney is reportedly interested in leaving the administration to become President of the University of South Carolina. The New York Times reports that the former South Carolina congressman has expressed interest in leading the university located in the state capital of Columbia.
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Jack2142 posted:Gen X is just the silent generation v2.0 Moat of the people that taught me about leftism were boomers and Gen Xers.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Yeah, the courts have stopped a lot of their actions, but being told to "stop doing that" isn't a consequence. They won't because they're probably just going to be told to work without pay. The gently caress is Trump gonna do, fire them?
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Gort posted:Criticise the fuckers who deserve it instead of those who are already targeted for criticism at a thousand times the volume for a thousandth of the fault. do not, under any circumstances, ask your politicians to represent you, otherwise trump will win
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Gort posted:Criticise the fuckers who deserve it instead of those who are already targeted for criticism at a thousand times the volume for a thousandth of the fault. The media has been complicit in Trump's rise to power since day one. They've been giving him a pass on literally everything, fact checkers included. Donald Trump does not give a gently caress about Pinocchios.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:38
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Data Graham posted:So this is our January meme huh 
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theblackw0lf posted:I hope AOC uses her ability to get media attention on policy ideas to talk about things like HR 1 (which would end federal gerrymandering, create 6-1 small donor matching system, create automatic voter registration, among other things) , which is a pretty big loving deal AOC has mentioned it in her tweets, but plenty of elected Dems are promoting that bill while very few are talking about M4A and some of the other leftist bills she supports.
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Destroying my Impartial Fact Checker credibility to own the left. AOC very cleanly going after these tools is wonderful. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Koalas Massacre posted:The term comes from the Eminem song. If you want to see Stan culture in action check out the mentions of any famous singer/actor. "I want Idris Elba to break an egg on my face" etc Come on, now. Don't kinkshame.
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Sputnik news employee. Conspiracy theory unattached to facts. C'mon. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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