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mallratcal posted:I'm looking to add cyber frog to the failure list. He's 15 pages behind and has no script. I believe Uncle Ethan has also claimed 'print file problems.'
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It's a recognizable pattern with guys who try to trade on right-wing politics: they never actually produce anything worthwhile and their business plans collapse under the weight of infighting and general incompetence. And while their customers aren't quick on the uptake, they're also defined as being guys who get extremely angry when they feel they aren't being properly catered to.
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Dawgstar posted:I believe Uncle Ethan has also claimed 'print file problems.' Which is odd considering the Kickstarter for Jawbreakers doesn't include a PDF version, so the only files will be print files. Knowing there's no digital version means you'd have been working for print the whole time- your colours are optimised for print, your page templates include bleed from the getgo... If your comic actually exists. Which it totally does, honest.
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Jan 7, 2019 22:37
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Covok posted:And yeah Dick Meyers still sued. That's where the money went, most likely. Covering his legal expenses. The follow-up series Alt-Hero: Q by Chuck Dixon got canned by Indiegogo and moved to a shadier crowdfunding site and raised $18,000 and is scheduled to come out in May 2019, so we'll see what happens to that. Trump's Space Force, another book by Chuck Dixon, was supposed to come out in November 2018 and there's no sign of it either.
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Kojiro posted:Which is odd considering the Kickstarter for Jawbreakers doesn't include a PDF version, so the only files will be print files. Knowing there's no digital version means you'd have been working for print the whole time- your colours are optimised for print, your page templates include bleed from the getgo... If your comic actually exists. Which it totally does, honest. Given how ComicsGate's fixation of books on the shelves being the only thing that matter, as a lot of comics that they leave them so sore wroth (comics starring brown people, or women, or brown people who are women, etc) do better in digital sales and the like I'd about buy that's what they did.
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Edge & Christian posted:Not to say anything nice about Comicsgate, but Alt-Hero has put out five issues. They're not on Comixology but they're all on Kindle, and I read issues 1, 2, and 4 on Kindle Unlimited (#3 and #5 aren't free on there and I'm not giving them any money). I talked about it upthread, it was terrible and clearly has not taken the comics world by storm given that you weren't even aware that it came out. Goddammit Chuck Dixon. You used to write awesome Robin stories and now you do this. Why must you be so lovely?
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Madkal posted:Goddammit Chuck Dixon. You used to write awesome Robin stories and now you do this. Why must you be so lovely? Nothings come out yet, maybe he's grifting the grifters?
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It is a crime that the name "cyber frog" will forever be associated with CHUDs. It's an inherently pleasing combination of words.
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Madkal posted:Goddammit Chuck Dixon. You used to write awesome Robin stories and now you do this. Why must you be so lovely? It's one of those things where I can see the seeds were planted long ago, but I still find Dixon's siding with CG really depressing. That said he's also the only CG-adjacent creator I can think of whose work I ever cared about, unless we're counting Dave Sim but that ship sailed about the time of Cerebus' Latter Days.
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Skwirl posted:Nothings come out yet, maybe he's grifting the grifters?
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Edge & Christian posted:It's an especially long con that involves doing a bunch of conservative interviews for the past twenty+ years, writing op-eds titled things like "How Liberalism Became Kryptonite for Superman" for the Wall Street Journal, doing friendly interviews with Milo Yiannopolous and Steve Bannon, adapting the conspiracy-peddling book Clinton Cash into a graphic novel, blaming his reduced workload at DC/Marvel on "leftist political cliques", trying to do a "conservative" Captain America book for Crossgen in the mid-2000s where "American Power" would go over to Iraq and behead all of the terrorists while wearing a leather bondage mask, etc. Quick question, and I figure that there isn't really an adequate answer out there, but in the specific case of Dixon, did all this stuff come out after 9/11, and in the broader sense how many comic creators got their brains....er....broke...by 9/11? I know Frank Miller is a pretty good example as you can see the direction his work took before and after 9/11, but I am curious if people like Dixon were more centrist before and then 9/11 happened and they became more...radicalised (if that is the right word). This isn't to make an excuse, but I am wondering if 9/11 broke a lot of people in the comic community for the worst.
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Covok posted:And yeah Dick Meyers still sued. That's where the money went, most likely. Covering his legal expenses. That's not their fault though, it's those damned SJWs so please just give them more money and be patient
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Madkal posted:Quick question, and I figure that there isn't really an adequate answer out there, but in the specific case of Dixon, did all this stuff come out after 9/11, and in the broader sense how many comic creators got their brains....er....broke...by 9/11? I know Frank Miller is a pretty good example as you can see the direction his work took before and after 9/11, but I am curious if people like Dixon were more centrist before and then 9/11 happened and they became more...radicalised (if that is the right word). This isn't to make an excuse, but I am wondering if 9/11 broke a lot of people in the comic community for the worst. Miller I think you could make a better case for '9/11 contributed in driving him nuts'. Elements of sort of fascist power fantasies were evidence in all of his 1980s/1990s works (though really you can say that about most superhero/pulp comics creators), and the 2000s saw his hometown get attacked on 9/11 in a way that clearly traumatized Miller (and tons of other people) in a real way. You also can't discount the fact that it was in the 2000s that he also had his marriage to Lynn Varley (a creative and romantic partner for 20+ years) fall apart, some serious alcohol/health problems, etc. happen. You could chicken-egg it, but regardless I think there's a more marked shift in Miller's life/views after 2001 than there ever were with Dixon. If anything the environment for right wing grievance/radicalization has just helped him be more open with it.
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quote:And instead of caring about the 13-year-old Sim ADMITTEDLY transported across state lines to stay in his hotel room 
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ryonguy posted:Wait. What. Yeah what the heck, first time I'm hearing about that.
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Yeah Dixon always sucked, we just didn't know to read between the lines back then hell Stephanie Brown's whole teen pregnancy arc is basically a lecture on the dangers of pre-marital sex followed by her carrying the child to term because abortions are evil
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For that matter, if I remember correctly, when he found out that fans thought Connor Hawke might be gay, Dixon's reaction was to write a story in which Connor slept with Shado, of all characters. Because that was somehow better.
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Pigbuster posted:Yeah what the heck, first time I'm hearing about that. Also has Dave Sim actually left Kitchener in the last decade?
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ryonguy posted:Wait. What.  Ethan is more upset that this forced him to fire Dave off his frog book instead of, you know, what Dave did.
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More details here : http://momentofcerebus.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-trial-of-dave-sim.html?m=1 Don't read if you don't have a shower handy because you'll feel grody afterwards, but here's a sample : quote:
Well no here's one from the comments I'll leaver unspoiled: quote:
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That spoilered bit is the weirdest/weakest defense I have ever seen, Jesus Christ. Edit: Everyone is a creep
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I'm reminded that the A Moment of Cerebus guy no doubt had to sign one of those 'I Vow To Never Imply Dave Sim is In Any Way a Misogynist' forms.
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Jedit posted:Also has Dave Sim actually left Kitchener in the last decade?
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Just to make sure I read that whole essay correctly, since reactions in the comments and elsewhere seem to muddy the waters: Dave Sim groomed a young teenage girl for romantic purposes, admitted to it, labeled himself a "world class sleaze ball" over his past conduct, and his fans just shrug and say, "but he mails us extra comics sometimes so who cares." Do I have that right?
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Space Fish posted:Just to make sure I read that whole essay correctly, since reactions in the comments and elsewhere seem to muddy the waters: Don't forget "What I did was wrong but it was the happiest day of my life and I kept pictures of myself with my 14 year old future paramour!"
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Space Fish posted:Just to make sure I read that whole essay correctly, since reactions in the comments and elsewhere seem to muddy the waters: Essentially. At this point you have to rationalize so much stuff to be a fan of Dave Sim that the news coming back to light was probably child's play for them.
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Coolness Averted posted:wait... so the ace in the hole/"I'll sue for libel!" is "How dare you say I transported a 13 year old child across state lines for sex! She was 15!" Am I reading that right? Twitter: You did a terrible thing, Dave Sim. Dave Sim: You're right, I did. Webmaster: I mean was it that bad? Comments: SUE THEM FOR LIBEL FOR GETTING A DETAIL WRONG
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"It's not like Dave Sim could have done something worse right?" says increasingly nervous EVS.
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Can I just say that someone who won't shut up about women being satan doing creepy sex stuff with an underage girl is the least surprising thing ever?
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Lurdiak posted:Can I just say that someone who won't shut up about women being satan doing creepy sex stuff with an underage girl is the least surprising thing ever?  women are evil, girls are pure
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Some fine trolling here. ( the whole thread is great ) https://twitter.com/micahmyers/status/1083380868629045249 I've worked with Micah on a past project, and he was an all around decent guy.
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Poor guy got a "ah, yes, but where is actual PROOF of ComicsGate's harassment" although he wisely ignored it. (Others took up the banner, because they have time to kill or whatever.)
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Dawgstar posted:Poor guy got a "ah, yes, but where is actual PROOF of ComicsGate's harassment" although he wisely ignored it. (Others took up the banner, because they have time to kill or whatever.) I like that guy who did engage just told them to check the comicsgate hashtag for examples of harassment
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Sims' big new confession about his underage girlfriend posted on Bleedingcool points to back-matter in Cerberus #75 from 1987 where he and pals Art Adams, Jackson Guice and Bob Burden have a "Gam Jam" in a hotel room drawing on the 14 or 15 year old girl's legs. It's easy to find on Google if you want to feel icky about some old pros. Somewhere in there he blames schools for not educating men on how to differentiate between women and underage teen girls in make-up.
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wauughhhb my skin is fleeing from me at maximum speed
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The real harassers are the ones against the harassing something something.
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