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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

redneck nazgul posted:

liberal: social progress as long as it doesn't threaten my economic status
conservative: leveling the playing field for everybody is a direct attack on me, because i worked hard to be white and christian
libertarian: "actually, it's ephebophilia"

also libertarian: "I think people should be able to smoke weed legally, but I hate black people"

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Reclines Obesily posted:

yeah i dived into learnin bout japan left politics a few months ago and its pretty depressing, a more extreme version of waiting for boomers to die like in the west

you got any good primers on this stuff

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Yinlock posted:

is his name seriously "boghossian"

thats a common armenian name, whats wrong with it

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Kurtofan posted:

thats a common armenian name, whats wrong with it
Nothing, so long as he gets into lots of back-road car choices with local moonshiners.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Phobos Anomaly posted:

Noob question.

I'm Australian. I understand the basic definition of the various political stances (liberal, libertarian, etc) but they don't seem to apply to American political stances referred to in general debate. So I might ask for a basic rundown of how an American would define as being:

Liberal
Libertarian
Conservative

Liberal, up until very recently, was how one would describe anyone left of center, with the further left one went, the more liberal they became. This is slowly falling out of favor, but it still shows up a lot.

Liberal is slowly being narrowed down to one who is left of center on social issues such as abortion rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. but in favor of the current capitalist system. It's cliche, but the typical liberal would want to make sure that the private for-profit prison hired enough female guards or that hedge funds have racially diverse boards.

Libertarian would be considered a subset of conservative that is mostly about using "small government" arguments to make sure that benefits don't go to non-white folks. It can also mean conservatives who are okay with marijuana legalization, but that's mostly a set of shut-ins who don't have the social skills to get a weed hookup (...seriously). There's also a lot of pedophiles in there.

Conservative still largely functions as the catch-all for anyone right of center, with someone being more conservative as they go further right. There isn't really terminology in American political discourse for describing degrees of right like one sees on the left with liberal, progressive, socialist, leftist, etc.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/AndyBCampbell/status/1082736604651884545

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

well, this is a fun twist in the ongoing Seattle Nazi Situation



EDIT: I heard about this from the local John Browns, who were expressing solidarity. We'll see, I guess.

LordSaturn has issued a correction as of 23:15 on Jan 8, 2019

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

LordSaturn posted:

well, this is a fun twist in the ongoing Seattle Nazi Situation


but these were good memes

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

Montasque posted:

https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1082516299115302913

Lots of the usual suspects crying about this one.

That censored head wound is loving brutal. Old mates split open skull lookin like a hosed vagina

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1082509173668098048
https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1082511214117339139

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Slugnoid posted:

That censored head wound is loving brutal. Old mates split open skull lookin like a hosed vagina

Didn't hurt anything valuable.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

There's a lot of broken brained Jews in White Nationalism now.

gently caress, there's a lot of every race and creed in White Nationalism now. Fascism is taking off.

E:



Image taken from a /pol/ meeting last year. Not exactly the stereotypical *14*WHITE-PRIDE-WORLD-WIDE*88* boneheads I had to deal with in the 1990s.

Montasque has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Jan 8, 2019

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Phobos Anomaly posted:

Noob question.

I'm Australian. I understand the basic definition of the various political stances (liberal, libertarian, etc) but they don't seem to apply to American political stances referred to in general debate. So I might ask for a basic rundown of how an American would define as being:

Liberal
Libertarian
Conservative

Liberal - Newish-money CEOs who want expansion of the technology sector and people, mostly urbanites, who want to maintain the status quo. While we distinguish between Liberal/Leftist on the forums, the general American public does not, so actual Leftists get lumped in with them, despite the fact that the Liberals go out of their way to resist any actual Leftist positions on the grounds of "It's too hard" while outright conceding to Conservatives in the name of "compromise".
Conservative - A bunch of typically old-money CEOs who don't care to pay taxes and want to keep their industries alive, propped up by a mob of frothing at the mouth "God, Guns, and Country" types who see America turning less white, Christian, and "hard-working". Both groups see the government as the root of their respective problems, and ceaselessly attack it.
Libertarian - CEOs who don't care to pay taxes or have anyone investigating any financial crimes they may be committing without openly associating with Conservatives (but will happily donate in secret to anyone that keeps them rich). Also includes bitcoiners, pedophiles, and apolitical suburbanites who are trying to be edgy or refusing to openly associate with any party. Frequently out themselves as Conservatives when pressed.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

fwiw i run that twitter

i stated it in the most neutral factual terms possible, but lol

i note it wasn't just chuds supporting him - alan sokal (of the famous hoax concerning postmodernism) did too. i understand he is or was a leftist (if a STEMlord), unless he's since caught brain worms

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i'm not really a podcast guy and haven't listened to this yet but i would reckon this is interesting:

https://twitter.com/_Jack_Graham_/status/1082743941374590981

both daniel and jack are 100% top blokes and you should take every word they say to heart

Huragok
Sep 14, 2011

Phobos Anomaly posted:

Noob question.

I'm Australian. I understand the basic definition of the various political stances (liberal, libertarian, etc) but they don't seem to apply to American political stances referred to in general debate. So I might ask for a basic rundown of how an American would define as being:

Liberal
Libertarian
Conservative

Liberal: fascist
Conservative: fascist
Libertarian: For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing—you who dread knowledge—I am the man who will now tell y

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Phobos Anomaly posted:

Noob question.

I'm Australian. I understand the basic definition of the various political stances (liberal, libertarian, etc) but they don't seem to apply to American political stances referred to in general debate. So I might ask for a basic rundown of how an American would define as being:

Liberal
Libertarian
Conservative

I am also Australian so I don't know anything about anything but I have gleaned an understanding from these forums and various podcasts.

Conservative generally refers to Republicans who are pro-business, pro-war, pro-genocide. They used to be less insane but in the 1960's civil rights era they dived in on the anti-civil rights side of history to court the KKK voter base and have since lurched around desperately finding more voters and causes. They invented the anti-abortion movement in order to activate religious voters. Over the decades they've managed to alienate Muslims, Hispanics, African Americans and pretty much every other non-White demographic. They've also driven their entire voter base and ruling class insane because the propaganda affected everyone equally well and now there's no difference between the scammers and the rubes. They are also heavily pro-Israel Zionist because they need Israel to trigger Revelation for them and get God to kill everyone. They are currently more insane than usual because a retarded orange man accidentally became president using their party and they can't deal with it.

Liberal generally means Democrat, pro-business, pro-war, slightly pro-minority. They used to be more progressive but in the 90s Clinton brilliantly won his election by adopting the entire Republican ideology and stole their base from under them. Because Americans are undereducated, overpropagandised they think all democrats are the far left revolutionary vanguard party. They are described as 'rainbow capitalists' because they love licking the boot of corporations but would also like for racial, religious, sexual minorities to be able to lick too instead of being placed in camps. The appearance of actual socialist/communist candidates has broken everyone's brains because American progressivism was stillborn somewhere around the 1920's and has been a red scare prop ever since, so it's like having a 2 in binary code. They generally loving suck because they're bloodless technocratic nerds who are addicted to decorum and refuse to admit anything is wrong because that would amount to a critique of neoliberalism.

Libertarians are slightly stylish rebels who have existed to steal a few votes from either major party whenever they have an uninspiring candidate. They usually have some nice things they use to hook the young and stupid like free weed, but the rest of their ideology is a mishmash of insanities and predatory vices that reflect the darkest heart of man. They have never had power because they're dysfunctional lunatics and any vaguely competent candidates they might attract would instead migrate to the two successful parties.

Neoliberalism is a general term to reflect the economic policies of a lot of nations and parties, but in particular the 80s and the visionary actions of do tardy/sociopaths Reagan and Thatcher. In short it is the realisation of capitalism using governments to slowly cannibalise society and break everything down into a profitable sludge. Democrats and Republicans are neoliberal, and so are LNP and ALP. The breakdown of social safety nets since the 80s that had been slowly built up over centuries is neoliberalism to perfection. Austerity budgets, too. Neoliberalism is the result of the contradiction of capitalism, as the government intervenes to protect and grow the capitalism, all public goods must be broken down and sold to feed infinite growth, while hurting the vast majority of the population and preventing them from participating in the economy.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Phobos Anomaly posted:

Noob question.

I'm Australian. I understand the basic definition of the various political stances (liberal, libertarian, etc) but they don't seem to apply to American political stances referred to in general debate. So I might ask for a basic rundown of how an American would define as being:

Liberal
Libertarian
Conservative

conservative: gently caress you got mine
liberal: gently caress you got mine :)
libertarians: we must throw off the yoke of the most oppressive law of all: age of consent

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Montasque posted:



Image taken from a /pol/ meeting last year. Not exactly the stereotypical *14*WHITE-PRIDE-WORLD-WIDE*88* boneheads I had to deal with in the 1990s.

:radcat: EVUL ANIME CLUB

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



there all cucks OP

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Libertarianism is when you dare me to say that to your face on the something awful forums and then you never acknowledge my offer to fight you in an abandoned kmart

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Slugnoid posted:

That censored head wound is loving brutal. Old mates split open skull lookin like a hosed vagina

Obviously not quite bad enough

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Montasque posted:

There's a lot of broken brained Jews in White Nationalism now.

gently caress, there's a lot of every race and creed in White Nationalism now. Fascism is taking off.

E:



Image taken from a /pol/ meeting last year. Not exactly the stereotypical *14*WHITE-PRIDE-WORLD-WIDE*88* boneheads I had to deal with in the 1990s.

A diverse pack of racist wimps.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Goons have destroyed the MAGA guild in the MMO Atlas by beating them in a straight war and than infiltrating it's membership, becoming admins, looting their treasury, sinking their ships, and kicking all their members.

Thank you cyberantifia pirates.

DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.

Montasque posted:



Image taken from a /pol/ meeting last year. Not exactly the stereotypical *14*WHITE-PRIDE-WORLD-WIDE*88* boneheads I had to deal with in the 1990s.

What's with all the milk?

edit: noticed the text on the drawing "Milk Viking Party" Still confused.

DARPA has issued a correction as of 00:18 on Jan 9, 2019

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

Phobos Anomaly posted:

Noob question.

I'm Australian. I understand the basic definition of the various political stances (liberal, libertarian, etc) but they don't seem to apply to American political stances referred to in general debate. So I might ask for a basic rundown of how an American would define as being:

Liberal
Libertarian
Conservative

Liberal: cable news will tell you these people are leftists, due to fifty years of persistent well-poisoning by the right. realistically they're handwringing centrist bureaucrats who would rather make a deal with fascists than bury them.
Libertarian: primarily, white men so dumb they think that everyone has a fair chance. sometimes someone else falls for the same stupid lies.
Conservative: the politics of hurting people, wrapped in a thin skin of genteel budgetary handwringing. the least racist among them are liberals.

of our two parties, one is run by Liberals and one is run by Conservatives, and anything else struggles to be heard at all

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

divabot posted:

both daniel and jack are 100% top blokes and you should take every word they say to heart
gently caress yeah. gonna listen to it tonight

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

DARPA posted:

What's with all the milk?

edit: noticed the text on the drawing "Milk Viking Party" Still confused.

Racists make a lot out of the fact that Europeans are particularly adapted to dairy.

That's really it.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

divabot posted:

fwiw i run that twitter

i stated it in the most neutral factual terms possible, but lol

i note it wasn't just chuds supporting him - alan sokal (of the famous hoax concerning postmodernism) did too. i understand he is or was a leftist (if a STEMlord), unless he's since caught brain worms


both daniel and jack are 100% top blokes and you should take every word they say to heart

lol was wondering who it was since they quoted this thread

salisbury shake
Dec 27, 2011
does anyone have a link to that overweight chud in body armor freaking out and screaming "BOMB!!" after someone threw a smoke bomb?

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Zeroisanumber posted:

Racists make a lot out of the fact that Europeans are particularly adapted to dairy.

That's really it.

Those guys strike me as kekistanis more than white nationalists, if only because none of them are white

I do enjoy the idea of an asian racist giving himself diarrhea all the time because he wants to impress his racist friends

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Those guys strike me as kekistanis more than white nationalists, if only because none of them are white

I do enjoy the idea of an asian racist giving himself diarrhea all the time because he wants to impress his racist friends

Pretty much, it was a dumb four Chan thing they thought up to own the libz

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

DARPA posted:

What's with all the milk?

edit: noticed the text on the drawing "Milk Viking Party" Still confused.

The majority of white people, meaning the "race" (Western Europeans and their descendants) and not the American social group, can digest lactose as adults, meaning they can drink milk with a low risk of rancid farts and liquid shits. Between this and milk being coincidentally white, racists have added milk to the list of synonyms for "white" (like, of course, "viking", "crusader", etc.)

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Does that mean the mongolians and certain parts of central Africa where they eat nothing but cow stuff are white too

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Uncle Wemus posted:

Does that mean the mongolians and certain parts of central Africa where they eat nothing but cow stuff are white too

you're putting more thought into it than they ever did.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Yeah I'm pretty sure a lot of the Nilotic peoples are big cattle herders, and those are some of the absolute blackest black people on earth.
Like South Sudan and that area.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

See I figured they like Mongolians at least since they had a couple big empires and are currently pretty xenophobic

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



hackbunny posted:

The majority of white people, meaning the "race" (Western Europeans and their descendants) and not the American social group, can digest lactose as adults, meaning they can drink milk with a low risk of rancid farts and liquid shits. Between this and milk being coincidentally white, racists have added milk to the list of synonyms for "white" (like, of course, "viking", "crusader", etc.)
Though defining white people by receiving the ability to digest milk from a common ancestor must also include a lot of Indian people as white, and exclude Basque people and Finns.

Trying to categorize people by race is very stupid. Hence why racists do it.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Montasque posted:

There's a lot of broken brained Jews in White Nationalism now.

gently caress, there's a lot of every race and creed in White Nationalism now. Fascism is taking off.

E:



Image taken from a /pol/ meeting last year. Not exactly the stereotypical *14*WHITE-PRIDE-WORLD-WIDE*88* boneheads I had to deal with in the 1990s.

anime and the internet have broken many brains.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Libertarianism is when you dare me to say that to your face on the something awful forums and then you never acknowledge my offer to fight you in an abandoned kmart

And are banned from the melon section of the produce isle.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/AndyBCampbell/status/1082807270277292034

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