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Jan 9, 2019 19:15
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Probably saving the 16 cores for the 4xxx generation.
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Icept posted:Probably saving the 16 cores for the 4xxx generation. guess they're already feeling confident enough to start the market segmentation 
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Malloc Voidstar posted:https://www.anandtech.com/show/13829/amd-ryzen-3rd-generation-zen-2-pcie-4-eight-core ok google how do i get rid of an erection at work
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Now my old 2500K rig just needs to hold together until this summer or fall. Come on old girl, you can do it! 
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sincx posted:There's no reason to put the chiplet weirdly off center unless they're going to have models with 2 chiplets. yeah, you can even see the empty traces on the substrate. really weird to have the cpu chiplet — presumably the main source of heat dissipation — way off in a corner like that.
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Kazinsal posted:ok google how do i get rid of an erection at work Do you have one of those single, lockable bathrooms somewhere and a mobile phone? 
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As previously mentioned Icept posted:Probably saving the 16 cores for the 4xxx generation. This would be AM4+/AM5 so it wouldn't be socket compatible. eames posted:yeah, you can even see the empty traces on the substrate. really weird to have the cpu chiplet — presumably the main source of heat dissipation — way off in a corner like that. Could be for the graphics die for the APUs 
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Risky Bisquick posted:This would be AM4+/AM5 so it wouldn't be socket compatible.
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DDR5 is planned for 2020, which is the line in the sand between AM4 and the new socket.
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Risky Bisquick posted:DDR5 is planned for 2020, which is the line in the sand between AM4 and the new socket.
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Looking at the pics I'd say they could fit 3 chiplets = 24C/48T on that package if they switch the IO chip at 7nm, though I highly doubt they will.
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Not gonna lie I’m am more hyped to see what the ps5 specs will look like with new AMD GPU and CPUs.
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Did they talk Zen 2 now or not? Am at work... thread pretends no, AT article the opposite. What the gently caress?
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Yeah...chiplets...parity with 9900k 8c/16t unknown frequencies
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I wonder if it's worth letting my 2500k limp along until summer...
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Seamonster posted:Yeah...chiplets...parity with 9900k 8c/16t unknown frequencies At almost half the power!
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Combat Pretzel posted:Did they talk Zen 2 now or not? Am at work... thread pretends no, AT article the opposite. What the gently caress? only a preview but yeah, showed preproduction 8C Zen 2 matching 9900k cinebench performance at ~30% lower system power. mid 2019 e: TSMC 7nm yields must be excellent since they only show the single chiplet variant as 8C eames fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 9, 2019 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:Did they talk Zen 2 now or not? Am at work... thread pretends no, AT article the opposite. What the gently caress? She talked about it at the very end. Gave no speeds or prices, only a benchmark comparison a 8-core zen 2 vs a stock i9. Which the zen was just a slight bt faster while using 30% (was it 30?) less power. Everything was in that article.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:/from/ $699. also bundled with DMC5, RE2 and Div2. when was the last time a gpu flagship released with 3 new titles at once? I got a similar deal with my R9, one of the free titles was star citizen lol
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from anandtech, same performance as the 9900K at 40% less power
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Khorne posted:DDR5 may not hit until 2022. The latest I've seen was 2021, earliest would be 2020. Who is forecasting 2022? B-Mac posted:Not gonna lie I’m am more hyped to see what the ps5 specs will look like with new AMD GPU and CPUs. The big gains would be switching from Jaguar to Zen cores, graphics would be a
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eames posted:really weird to have the cpu chiplet — presumably the main source of heat dissipation — way off in a corner like that. I'm thinking about this and can't make up my mind whether it'll be a real difference in practice. the one thing I can come up with is that coolers with direct heatpipe contact may be less advantageous, because only a few of the pipes will be over the chiplet. they tend to have little gaps between pipes which would make side-to-side conduction less effective. so instead of the two middle pipes doing the bulk of the work and the side ones helping, it'll be the two side ones doing work, a middle one helping, and the far one not doing much. if the two-chiplet thing happens, then heatsink orientation with air coolers could actually make a difference B-Mac posted:Not gonna lie I’m am more hyped to see what the ps5 specs will look like with new AMD GPU and CPUs. lol what new GPU
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Maybe the chiplet & IO unit positioning is related to the AM4 socket layout? It's impressive they make such dramatic changes without forcing a new motherboard on users. That's something I've always liked about AMD.
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Bloody Antlers posted:Maybe the chiplet & IO unit positioning is related to the AM4 socket layout? I'm optimistic. Also, 2000+ cinebench at the power usage shown is great. For comparison, 2700x scores 1800 and the 1800x scores 1600. It's a big improvement and goes toe to toe with intel's flagship. If they do have 2 chiplet AM4 CPUs it's going to be nuts. Khorne fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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12C CPU with two chiplets with 6 functioning cores each. Probably that. If that Zen 2 performance is at same (or lower) clocks than the 9900K, that sure would want me to upgrade my TR. Will be interesting to see how that IO die will affect memory latencies on the non-TR Ryzens.
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B-Mac posted:Not gonna lie I’m am more hyped to see what the ps5 specs will look like with new AMD GPU and CPUs. Is it basically a forgone conclusion that both the Xbox and Playstation platforms will be sticking with an AMD based x86 platform with AMD graphics for the time being? Seems like a win all around, but just curious.
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I think AMD (rightfully) fears high end ryzen cannibalizing low end threadripper sales if they pack too many cores in. Most consumers don't know/don't care that the better binned silicon is going into threadripper. Features like quad channel memory extra I/O is irrelevant for people who only need MOAR CORES.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Is it basically a forgone conclusion that both the Xbox and Playstation platforms will be sticking with an AMD based x86 platform with AMD graphics for the time being? Seems like a win all around, but just curious. Yeah too many reasons to stay with them, mostly relationship, price and backward/forward compatibility. Nvidia had their go with the original Xbox and they basically tried to rip Microsoft off.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Is it basically a forgone conclusion that both the Xbox and Playstation platforms will be sticking with an AMD based x86 platform with AMD graphics for the time being? Seems like a win all around, but just curious. The only other option would be ARM. As long as AMD is willing to license their stuff for the console makers to produce it themselves, and Intel & nvidia are not, it's gonna be AMD. To do a console you have to have a licensed design so you can go get it produced yourself for the cheapest costs, and keep reducing those costs over the years. Buying chips on contract is putting yourself in a position to be taken advantage of.
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Space Racist posted:Cue AdoredTV video saying “you all said it was too good to be true, so AMD decided it was also. My ‘leaks’ were correct, seriously guys!”
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Khorne posted:His leaks... were correct though? CPU more or less but GPU was as far off as possible.
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Bloody Antlers posted:Maybe the chiplet & IO unit positioning is related to the AM4 socket layout? The positioning is related to AMD being massive teases. Seamonster posted:I think AMD (rightfully) fears high end ryzen cannibalizing low end threadripper sales if they pack too many cores in. Most consumers don't know/don't care that the better binned silicon is going into threadripper. Features like quad channel memory extra I/O is irrelevant for people who only need MOAR CORES. I don't really see it, those who need MOAR CORES are going to be on the threadripper platform anyways for, well, MOAR CORES and AMD gets a halo product for the mainstream platform.
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TheCoach posted:CPU more or less but GPU was as far off as possible. His GPU leaks were in reference to Navi which only got a small mention at the end of the presentation. They could still be accurate, just not launching until the end of the year.
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Arzachel posted:The positioning is related to AMD being massive teases. That and the entire point of TR systems is to get a shitload of memory bandwidth for scientific calcs, there aren't too many things you can do that will hammer the poo poo out of the cores but leave the memory system unmolested, except for prime95 or whatever.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Is it basically a forgone conclusion that both the Xbox and Playstation platforms will be sticking with an AMD based x86 platform with AMD graphics for the time being? Seems like a win all around, but just curious. This seems weird to me. I haven't owned a console since the Super Nintendo, so excuse what may be a dumb question, but...doesn't this mean that the two base systems will be fairly similar to one another? If so, the only substantive differentiations will the online ecosystems and any locked-up exclusives?
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