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CornHolio posted:The worst thing is that you know that isn't going to be limited to the Explorer. That design is going to be their general interior layout pretty much across the board. This is the nightmare I have when I think about getting a new car
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incels interlinked posted:The new Explorer looks really nice. I was at the Chevy dealership today and they need to step their game up. does it?  I can't stop looking at that front, it looks like Hyundai in early 2000s trying to copy designs, it's poo poo compared to the '18 front 
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Godzilla07 posted:Ford is really taking “gently caress it let’s glue an iPad onto the dashboard” to the extreme here. good lord Is it cheaper to just stick screens in like this compared to integrating them into the dash or something Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Is there a new edge planned to come along after the explorer? My wife just got done having a platinum edition 2018 model as a rental for three weeks and she fell in love with it. Not that I'm aware of. They just did a mid-cycle facelift/refresh for the 2019 models, so I would expect the current Edge to be around for a few more years. They're not bad cars, if we ever decide we don't want the 3rd row seating of the Explorer it would be my wife's second choice.
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Nice to get a heads up on what police vehicles will looks like soon.
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Morphix posted:does it? The best thing I can say about it is at least it looks slightly less like every other 4x4 trying to copy a Land/Range Rover. The 2018 just screams cheap Chinese copy.
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euphronius posted:Nice to get a heads up on what police vehicles will looks like soon. We have an Explorer in the Magnetic Metallic grey paint, and lots of people think we're a cop car when driving (local PD has some "stealth" vehicles with grey paint and black lettering). I'm tempted to put steelies and a push bar on it to complete the look.
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Monkey Fracas posted:good lord it’s about where you put your eyes and how you interact with it. If you want a touchscreen it has to be within reach, and that means proud of the dash of you want it near the driver’s eyeline. If you want touch and flush integration then it has to go in the stack and that means taking your eyes off the road longer. If you don’t want touch you can have it high up and integrated.
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Is the hybrid one later availability, fleet only, or any other big asterisks? I saw them mention that the refreshed body can fit a 4' wide sheet of _something_ in the back, but there's no way that 4x8 plywood is fitting back there, right? How flat can the load floor get with seats taken out or folded down?
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While I agree that displays like that look jarring, consider how they would need to rearrange the interior to keep a display that big and not have it jut out. Putting a hump behind it would be just as large an eyesore. Moving it down would displace other controls and take it out of the eyeline. The real question is, does it need a display that large. However, display size is one easy thing they can put in the brochure and bigger is better. What we really need is more HUD, better control interfaces, and custom display form factors that integrate into the lines of the interior. But that's going to be a massive change in the industry.
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bull3964 posted:While I agree that displays like that look jarring, consider how they would need to rearrange the interior to keep a display that big and not have it jut out. That’s easier done with EVs where you don’t have to fill the dash with the HVAC system.
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Here's what I don't understand - curved and non-rectangular displays are a relatively easy thing to do. I understand why Ford doesn't do this, but why haven't the luxury brands come out with a display that sits flush with the curvature of the console? Take this Audi, for example. It would look so much better if the two screens were a single screen that followed the red lines and the center console trim followed the curve all the way up instead of having that weird hexagon thing. 
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KillHour posted:Here's what I don't understand - curved and non-rectangular displays are a relatively easy thing to do. I understand why Ford doesn't do this, but why haven't the luxury brands come out with a display that sits flush with the curvature of the console? I kind of like how that's broken up though. It keeps the HVAC controls nice and separate from the media system controls.
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It could still be broken up visually with a line or something, but it would look a lot more integrated if it was a part of the dash lines and not something stuck on. Besides, HVAC controls should be hard because they DON'T CHANGE CONTEXT. Even my Focus does this right.
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Those things may be possible to do, but they cost more and likely have more assembly challenges. So, they aren't going to eat into margins for things like that if they don't think they need to.
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euphronius posted:I would like the iPad to be on the steering wheel. I just hold mine in front of my face while I drive
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Olympic Mathlete posted:The best thing I can say about it is at least it looks slightly less like every other 4x4 trying to copy a Land/Range Rover. The 2018 just screams cheap Chinese copy. Can't really blame them though, RR is by far the best looking SUV in my opinion. If not for their ghastly electronics and abysmal reputation for reliability I'd look at picking up a lightly used V8.
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Monkey Fracas posted:good lord Normal people actually like this The integrated ones look too "old-fashioned"
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euphronius posted:I would like the iPad to be on the steering wheel. https://www.byton.com/
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CornHolio posted:I kind of like how that's broken up though. It keeps the HVAC controls nice and separate from the media system controls. I was in a Range Rover Velar recently and had a good old play with the touchscreen setup as it's the first of their cars to be mostly screen controlled. It's nice to have things separate, but I found you could have FOUR instances of the stereo controls spread over the 2 touch screens and dash display... Stereo controls in stereo controls in one of the touch screens screens, stereo controls on the other touch screen and then controls you can't even use on the dash. And the system isn't really intuitive, they give you a billion loving options right there on the top display, poo poo you're never going to use meaning you have to scroll through so much poo poo to get to the bits you want to use. I dunno what it is about car interface designers but they need to learn less is more. I hope it's just the execs saying "it needs this, this and this" which is why the displays are messy bollocks. poo poo like this in the McLaren MP4-12C, bam. perfect. The basics. 
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The new Ford display would be fine if they turned it sideways and made the vents vertical, but since a lot of normal folk are fappin' to the giant Tesla screen I can see what they are going for. I really ain't a fan of these "pokey touchy" screens.  People are going to have to start buying cell phone "screen protectors" for these things soon.
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2019 dream car for nerds: brown manual diesel RWD wagon with buttons
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I still maintain that the Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio has one of the best looking integrated screens I've ever seen. Also the HVAC is physical buttons.
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MrOnBicycle posted:I still maintain that the Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio has the best looking integrated screens I've ever seen. Also the HVAC is physical buttons. I went to take a look.  Ah yeah I see what you mean it's a pretty big screen with loads of space to...  ...there's no definite edge to the screen it's just a small screen behind a smooth surface? Definite park up to use it integration there.
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Keyser_Soze posted:People are going to have to start buying cell phone "screen protectors" for these things soon. Definitely already a thing, my dad bought a used Grand Cherokee recently and had a hell of a time peeling one of those off.
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opengl128 posted:Definitely already a thing, my dad bought a used Grand Cherokee recently and had a hell of a time peeling one of those off. Hi I’m the finance manager and let me tell you about how you NEED a screen protector in your new car. This screen protector is $1699 but I’ll knock off $300 right if you buy it. See this piece of plastic? See the scratch? That’s an unprotected screen! And now look at this...no scratches! You’re already protecting you seats, and your paint, and your glass, and your wheels, why not roll in an extra thousand? What is your peace of mind worth?
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$399 phone pairing service
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This is what we need! 
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Keyser_Soze posted:This is what we need! I was next to a newer Dodge Ram the other night and the inside was bright as day from the center console screen. There's no way that person could actually see anything else that didn't have lights on it. I can't imagine the horror of that full length nav setup
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Thankfully the airbag will automatically implant the tablet into your face in the inevitable event of a crash.
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fknlo posted:I was next to a newer Dodge Ram the other night and the inside was bright as day from the center console screen. There's no way that person could actually see anything else that didn't have lights on it. I can't imagine the horror of that full length nav setup If it's anything like my Challenger it has a kind of 'night mode' that significantly dims all of the lights and inverts the nav colors.
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CornHolio posted:If it's anything like my Challenger it has a kind of 'night mode' that significantly dims all of the lights and inverts the nav colors. There's an infinite amount of dumb dumbs that drive around with their gauges on 100% brightness because they don't know what the gauge dimmer does.
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Keyser_Soze posted:This is what we need! It sure is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newton pop-up ads!
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It sure is relevant to your navigation to be able to see map data from three counties over.
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bull3964 posted:It sure is relevant to your navigation to be able to see map data from three counties over. Checking traffic on I-95, the turnpike, and Krome while driving on the Palmetto 
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euphronius posted:I would like the iPad to be on the steering wheel. Both the Byton (which is going into production) and the Mercedes EQ silver arrows thing had screens on the boss like a 1980s Citroen concept car. https://m.imgur.com/gallery/2AOxrxm drgitlin fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Checking traffic on I-95, the turnpike, and Krome while driving on the Palmetto Those parts of all four of those are pretty much permanently red anyway.
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Monkey Fracas posted:good lord The lesser trims will have a less ridiculous looking display if the previous spy photos are any indication. 
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The vertical screen on the explorer is optional, base is a 8.x” horizontal.
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