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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Yeah, I've been meaning to make that a book of the month in book barn for a while now. Thanks for the reminder.

I recently stopped by the book barn to check out the history book thread and it was a real let down. Nobody talks to each other in there, not even in a super angry way like a lot of posters do here in DnD. Like it was just a bunch of people stopping in to ask for recommendations then never posting anything else and never getting a reply, or people saying they read a book without elaboration, or really lame gbs one liners directed into the ether. What’s the point of a thread about history books if no one actually wants to talk about history?

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
someone is actively telling you 'I'm going to do direct harm to your niece' and you're whinging about 'but what if they don't let us come to Christmas'

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

bloodysabbath posted:

If that loses ally points or whatever then I guess I won’t have enough to trade for the bicycle at the prize counter

pushing back against endemic bigotry embedded in society = a loving chuck-e-cheese game.


quote:

, but I’m fine with that.


how loving magnanimous of you.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Squalid posted:

I recently stopped by the book barn to check out the history book thread and it was a real let down. Nobody talks to each other in there, not even in a super angry way like a lot of posters do here in DnD. Like it was just a bunch of people stopping in to ask for recommendations then never posting anything else and never getting a reply, or people saying they read a book without elaboration, or really lame gbs one liners directed into the ether. What’s the point of a thread about history books if no one actually wants to talk about history?

The A/T ancient history thread is where people actually talk about history

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

OAquinas posted:

Spoiler: it doesn't end well.

Turns out Rosebud was a sled.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
it's not even NORMAL misogyny and poo poo. Even a large chunk of the 'my wife best not think she can get a job her place is at home' types look at purity balls and go 'haha what the gently caress man'

Medium Chungus
Feb 19, 2012

selec posted:

Oh yeah, they definitely believe some anti-woman poo poo. Purity balls! But how do you convince them that's bad, when they did it, truly, because they were told and believed it was what was for the best for their daughters?

Besides the fact that that's not my fight to have, that's something their daughters have to take on. I'm not going to get into fights not even my wife wants to have on her behalf, because that would be a super dick move.

You're not ever going to convince these people their worldview is wrong. Point, laugh, make sure any daughter you have understands that these people are pieces of poo poo and are out to do harm to her and others, like my daughter. Hate and contempt drive them, nothing else. There's nothing worth saving there.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Squalid posted:

I recently stopped by the book barn to check out the history book thread and it was a real let down. Nobody talks to each other in there, not even in a super angry way like a lot of posters do here in DnD. Like it was just a bunch of people stopping in to ask for recommendations then never posting anything else and never getting a reply, or people saying they read a book without elaboration, or really lame gbs one liners directed into the ether. What’s the point of a thread about history books if no one actually wants to talk about history?

We're low traffic unfortunately. If you start convos people will participate but it'll take some patience.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Lemming posted:

Lmao that you think being against sexism is a fight "on their behalf" and not just the right thing to do. Like if you didn't have an SO it would be fine?

It's like all the sexism bullshit where they're like "imagine it's your sister or wife or daughter" hey brain genius what if it's bad if it happens to anybody, you don't need to invent a personal stake in it before you care if something bad is happening

To be fair, saying "imagine it's your sister or wife or daughter" can be useful, because humans do have circles of empathy, and family members tend to be in the closer circles. It helps to put a face on things.

That said, yeah, sexism, racism, etc, are things we should be against in anybody, and we should find equally repellant under any circumstance. "Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere," as some cool dude said.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
Ignoring poo poo like purity balls so Christmas isn't awkward is kind of how you get Gilead

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1083473120625864704

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Lumpy posted:

Turns out Rosebud was a sled.

Rosebud is a new strain of marijuana with a picture of Rue Maclanahan on the package

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

sexpig by night posted:

it's not even NORMAL misogyny and poo poo. Even a large chunk of the 'my wife best not think she can get a job her place is at home' types look at purity balls and go 'haha what the gently caress man'

You don't have to be Freud to spot an Electra Complex from a mile away.:gonk:

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

Oh my God, we have such sights to show you.

Father-daughter balls where they basically act like they're at a mass wedding reception and the dads give them "promise rings" and promise to protect their daughters' chastity until they get married.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
Just give me thirtyyearoldswhofeelweirdaboutgoingoutbecausetheyreoldnow.com please.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

it's where girls will stay pure because daddy is all they need

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

CubanMissile posted:

Just give me thirtyyearoldswhofeelweirdaboutgoingoutbecausetheyreoldnow.com please.

Ah, Plenty of Fish! Have fun with that one.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

it's the very normal thing when dads make their daughters pledge their 'virtue' (chastity) to them until an Acceptable Husband is found and until then the DAD will just take the role of boyfriend by taking them to balls and on dates and stuff, because he's the guardian of her virtue.

normal poo poo, man, don't wanna make the high holidays awk by questioning it.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

White Christian dads dance with their undebauched teenage daughters and give them rings to signify that they will stay chaste until marriage

Something like that its super hosed up and pseudo-incestuous. Tied to the idea that a father owns his daughter until he gives her away to her husband, who owns her after marriage.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Herstory Begins Now posted:

listen koala, my cherished memories of having to get blackout drunk over and over because my rear end in a top hat racist mother won't stop spouting off fox news talking points is just too important to me to confront

I seriously can't even imagine

Sometimes y'all make me feel like my spine is made out of vibranium and I have put up with a loooot of poo poo in the past I didn't realize I was "allowed' to say no to

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

it's like conservative christian prom, where fathers swear to be the custodians of their daughters virginity until it can be entrusted to a husband on behalf of jesus christ. it is twice as creepy as it sounds

Critical
Aug 23, 2007

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

Think of a prom where middle age fathers treat their pre pubescent daughters like property and dress them up in white gowns and dance with them and make them promise not to gently caress until they get married.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

sexpig by night posted:

it's the very normal thing when dads make their daughters pledge their 'virtue' (chastity) to them until an Acceptable Husband is found and until then the DAD will just take the role of boyfriend by taking them to balls and on dates and stuff, because he's the guardian of her virtue.

normal poo poo, man, don't wanna make the high holidays awk by questioning it.

Also they get all dressed up and have a prom-like thing together.

E: beaten. I think this picture sums it up:

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

It's that totally normal thing where a dad takes their teenage daughter for the romantic night of dancing that she's always wanted.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Critical posted:

Think of a prom where middle age fathers treat their pre pubescent daughters like property and dress them up in white gowns and dance with them and make them promise not to gently caress until they get married.

Isn't that a cotillion?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

luxury handset posted:

it's like conservative christian prom, where fathers swear to be the custodians of their daughters virginity until it can be entrusted to a husband on behalf of jesus christ. it is twice as creepy as it sounds


Crow Jane posted:

Also they get all dressed up and have a prom-like thing together.

yea I really can't stress how creepily FORMAL this all is too.

Like it's not just 'hey Ted at church has a father daughter group we go to to keep Becky's mind of The Sinful Penis' kinda weird stuff, it's like creepy Eyes Wide Shut poo poo.

For dads, and their daughters.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Xombie posted:

You are using completely arbitrary and opposite standards for Germany, France, and Italy here. It ignores, among other things, the fact that France was just as antisemitic as Germany and that Italy was as Fascist as Germany. The rise of the NSDAP had nothing to with how "strict" or "orderly" you imagine Germans as. It's because of a wide variety of economic and political confluences that had literally nothing to do with German "culture" and more to do with, as most things in history, pure dumb luck.

Even after WWII, France's own trial of Klaus Barbie had gently caress-all to do with his crimes against Jews and more to do with his crimes against the French.

Everyone was antisemitic back then*. Russians gladly turned on their Jewish neighbors the moment the opportunity presented itself even as they themselves were being slaughtered by the Germans. And yes, the processes that led to all that are extraordinarily complex and possibly inevitable, but German culture was uniquely positioned to embrace what turned into the Holocaust in ways I don't believe other countries would have.

To say what happened in Germany could happen anywhere I think is incorrect. Some cultures seem predisposed to authoritarian behavior.



*as opposed to our enlightened present.

cochise
Sep 11, 2011


Crow Jane posted:

Also they get all dressed up and have a prom-like thing together.

E: beaten. I think this picture sums it up:



Cursed image. :stare:

CubanMissile posted:

Isn't that a cotillion?
A cotillion has guys the same age there being awkward as hell. The purity ball is just creepiness between father and daughter.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

haveblue posted:

sharecroppersonly.com?

Don't do this.

Asema
Oct 2, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Solaris 2.0 posted:

What the hell is a "purity ball"?! I'm at work and I refuse to google this.

it's a thing in the south where daughters pledge their purity to their watcher (god/dad) first

it's super loving creepy and i'm so glad my dad laughed in our neighbors face about it

NoDamage
Dec 2, 2000

selec posted:

"Well, I'm not racist? I mean, my sister-in-law is Thai? And I have nieces and nephews from nearly every race you can imagine?"
"One of my family members married a non-white person, therefore by definition I cannot be a racist."

selec posted:

But as I said, it's hard to detect the racism we're all sure is in my in-laws hearts, because they recoil at expressions of it, are deeply comfortable around people of color like their family members, and in the end, just prioritize pro-life politics over everything.
Are you for real here? Do you remember those articles from last year when Trump started upping deportations and Trump voters were shocked when their neighbors/coworkers/friends started getting deported? Racist people will support racist policies and hold racist opinions even if they've carved out individual exceptions for people they know personally.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

Majorian posted:




Oh my God, we have such sights to show you.

Father-daughter balls where they basically act like they're at a mass wedding reception and the dads give them "promise rings" and promise to protect their daughters' chastity until they get married.

:stare:

Well that's goddamn creepy.

And why does this sound like something Mike Pence would be proud of?

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



I honestly don't even want to post this picture but here is a totally normal not gross af thing

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

sexpig by night posted:

yea I really can't stress how creepily FORMAL this all is too.

Like it's not just 'hey Ted at church has a father daughter group we go to to keep Becky's mind of The Sinful Penis' kinda weird stuff, it's like creepy Eyes Wide Shut poo poo.

For dads, and their daughters.

I don't see how you could call THIS creepy:


Solaris 2.0 posted:

:stare:

Well that's goddamn creepy.

And why does this sound like something Mike Pence would be proud of?

The biggest political surprise of my life would be to learn that he hasn't been to one personally. I'm fairly certain he has though.

Critical
Aug 23, 2007

CubanMissile posted:

Isn't that a cotillion?

I think a cotillion is where the father presents the daughter so a gentleman can call dibs on her. A purity ball is where the father calls dibs himself.

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/1083466653944422401

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Ok I was wrong

Sometimes, kinkshaming is good

Skex
Feb 22, 2012

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Koalas March posted:

gently caress no

Oh my Christ

Ok I found the issue, you think the opressed should be the ones on the front lines when in reality you as the privileged white male adult should be using your privilege to help

loving oh my God

Are you going to let them bully you into sending your daughter to a purity ball???

I can see the r/relationships post already..

Actually the pattern that I've observed with Selec and the rest of the Dems are bad :matters: socialism now or nothing, no war but class war brigade is that they view it as the job of someone else to fix the problems of the world. They are mad at the elected Democrats because they don't do what they believe they should be doing, they'll whine about how horrible the system is but won't actually even bother articulating what they are doing to fix the problems.

It's never a matter of figuring out what they personally can do. Notice that the vast majority of posts from these folks are negative regarding what they see as bad/ineffective/weak strategies or actions on the part of others but very seldom positive hopeful or encouraging.

It's not even that they are wrong about a lot of specific complains like Dems being bad, a lot of Dems are objectively bad and a lot are ineffective, weak and compromised but at a bear minimum despite all of that they had the gumption to get up off their rear end and try to do something even if it isn't the perfect fix all of the problems with the world tomorrow or die Hail Mary's.

They get all indignant when it's pointed out that the reason we have poo poo representatives is because the public have poo poo ideas and beliefs and rather than do what they actually can do to fix that real problem by helping those people to learn better less poo poo ideas and beliefs they view that as the job of the politicians which is a pretty loving strange take for someone who claims to be a "leftist". The whole point of being a leftist isn't about being a communist it's about believing that power should flow from the bottom up. That you build your movement by educating those closest to you and encourage them to do the same, that you don't want for the powerful to decide to do something good, that you don't want for a savior to tell you the way forward then any time someone does step forward they'll tear them down mercilessly if they fail to check whatever purity boxes are on their personal list but are perfectly willing to over look far worse failings if it will make their personal lives more comfortable or less stressful.

Skex fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jan 10, 2019

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

CubanMissile posted:

Isn't that a cotillion?

cotillions are more about signalling sexual availability to a certain social class and permitting courtship in a structured environment, not declaring holy guardianship over your daughter's nethers in a deeply oppressive way

the point of a cotillion is to get your kid out of the house, not lock them away in it

Critical posted:

I think a cotillion is where the father presents the daughter so a gentleman can call dibs on her. A purity ball is where the father calls dibs himself.

yeah

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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

We're low traffic unfortunately. If you start convos people will participate but it'll take some patience.

Well I tried to post about imagined communities and was controversial enough to generate replies but they were all some variation of ‘lol if you. . .’ And semi-sarcastic one liners written to play to the crowd rather than start a meaningful back and forth. The literary book thread was good though, I guess it probably gets more traffic.

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