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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Torque converter just exploded in front of a 4l60e. Horrible grinding. Stopped driving almost immediately but truck has to be towed. Is there any chance the transmission isn't a paperweight?

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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

kid sinister posted:

I'm getting ready to sell my old 1988 F150 and something occurred to me. Just how rare is it to have cruise control on a manual? Mine does and I've never seen that before or since. Then again, you don't see many manuals these days.

Here's a list of the manuals I've owned. * indicates the ones that had cruise control.

* 1988 Honda Accord LXi
1988 Honda Accord DX
* 1996 Honda Civic EX
* 1995 Honda Civic EX
* 2001 Honda Accord LX
* 1999 Nissan Altima GXE
* 2006 Saturn Ion 3
* 2006 Saturn Ion 2

Of the cars that had it, it was standard equipment for that trim level, not optional, except on the Ion 2 (it's optioned really oddly... has a sunroof, PW/PL/PM, keyless entry... all stuff you normally don't see on the 2 - it's only missing foglights, headlights, the higher trim stereo, and was missing the auto dimming mirror [which I kept from the old car]). It wasn't an available option on the Accord DX; all other trims got it.

The Saturns have been smart enough to disengage cruise if you knock it into neutral without touching the clutch; all but the 01 Accord would just bounce off the rev limiter if you did that (the 01 would bang it once, then disengage cruise).

tl;dr just as common as on automatics unless it's a stripper or fleet vehicle. GF's 2005 Toyota Matrix (manual) doesn't have cruise, but it's just a matter of adding a $100 kit since her car is DBW (the only options she has are floor mats and a cargo net... doesn't even have the rear wiper).

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 11, 2019

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
My 2003 Cavalier didn't have it, but it had manual windows and mirrors and didn't even have a tape player in the head unit, so...

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
It's standard in semis which are 99.9% manual. Even the "it's what's available, new guy" ancient fleet beaters had it when I was doing that.


If I wanna attach a water tank under the floor of my van, are sheet metal screws enough or do I have to do some kind of bolt through the floor? I ask because the latter would SUCK now that I have the flooring in and everything else on top of it.

Javid fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jan 11, 2019

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
Amazingly cruise control is still optional on the Euro-market Fiesta, even in ST trim. Not adaptive cruise control, just plain cruise control. Yes, it's an electronic throttle. The cruise control option is literally just a different face on the steering wheel with one more 5-way control switch and a few bits flipped in software. Somehow this actually makes sense.

I'd really have assumed that once a vehicle goes to electronic throttle the economies of scale of producing one steering wheel configuration would outweigh whatever margins they're generating from the artificial segmentation.

My '03 Ranger didn't have cruise, but it was a base model other than the long bed and cloth seat upgrades. My '02 BMW, '13 Kia, and '15 Fiesta all have cruise with three pedals.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Uthor posted:

My 2003 Cavalier didn't have it, but it had manual windows and mirrors and didn't even have a tape player in the head unit, so...

Yeah, it's an option on the Ion I currently have, though I'd say about half of the 2's I've seen have it. I've seen a handful of 1's (they killed off the 1 after 04 or 05), but they were manual everything, cruise wasn't available on them (they didn't even have as much sound deadening). IIRC the only options available on the 1 were an automatic transmission and air conditioning.

I've never seen another 2 with a sunroof or map lights though (pretty sure they come bundled, the sunroof switch is between the map lights). Hell, seeing the sunroof on a 3 (top of the line) isn't that common. The only thing I've been able to come up with is it was probably a dealer demo (going by the miles it had when first registered - about 2000).

wolrah posted:

Amazingly cruise control is still optional on the Euro-market Fiesta, even in ST trim. Not adaptive cruise control, just plain cruise control. Yes, it's an electronic throttle. The cruise control option is literally just a different face on the steering wheel with one more 5-way control switch and a few bits flipped in software. Somehow this actually makes sense.

I'd really have assumed that once a vehicle goes to electronic throttle the economies of scale of producing one steering wheel configuration would outweigh whatever margins they're generating from the artificial segmentation.

DBW makes it a lot easier for a dealer to upsell cruise control on a base model car, for "only" $1500 or something stupid like that. Just toss the switch in and flash the PCM.

Or if it's a mid 00s Toyota, just add the switch, I guess? I've seen kits on Amazon for GF's car that claim to add factory cruise, and it appears to be just the switches. If that's it, then I'm just gonna go to a junkyard and get the switch and skip paying $150 for a "kit".

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jan 11, 2019

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

e: damnit

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Javid posted:

If I wanna attach a water tank under the floor of my van, are sheet metal screws enough or do I have to do some kind of bolt through the floor? I ask because the latter would SUCK now that I have the flooring in and everything else on top of it.

How big of a tank? Water is heavy.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Honestly, if I CAN attach stuff under there, I'll want at least two 5 gallon tanks and possibly one or more coach batteries, since there's a ton of room between the floor and the bottom of the body, and my internal space is limited.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.
You need to listen to this guy:

Uthor posted:

How big of a tank? Water is heavy.
Cause when he says 'heavy' he means 'really fuckin heavy'

20kg tanks of water? Sheet metal screws will rip right through the floor. Even bolts with 1" washers are probably going to fail in a short space of time.
You'll need to make a cradle that bolts onto a pair of chassis rails and sit the tanks onto it.

Google for van conversions into campers for your particular model and see what options you have.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Javid posted:

It's standard in semis which are 99.9% manual. Even the "it's what's available, new guy" ancient fleet beaters had it when I was doing that.


If I wanna attach a water tank under the floor of my van, are sheet metal screws enough or do I have to do some kind of bolt through the floor? I ask because the latter would SUCK now that I have the flooring in and everything else on top of it.

Javid posted:

Honestly, if I CAN attach stuff under there, I'll want at least two 5 gallon tanks and possibly one or more coach batteries, since there's a ton of room between the floor and the bottom of the body, and my internal space is limited.

So that's over 40 lbs of water in each tank, not counting the tank itself. Now imagine that in an accident where forward momentum stops rapidly.

Yes, of course it needs to be bolted through the floor, as well as being in proper tanks made for this purpose, otherwise they'll have to be strapped appropriately and likely need what the poster above me mentioned.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Honestly, enough sheet metal screws will hold the tank.

And the sheet metal will most likely tear away like tissue paper.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Dolphin posted:

Torque converter just exploded in front of a 4l60e. Horrible grinding. Stopped driving almost immediately but truck has to be towed. Is there any chance the transmission isn't a paperweight?

How's the fluid look?

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.
Why do some cars blow huge clouds of white condensation when it's cold outside, but others don't? My current working theory is that turbos cause everything to heat up so much faster that they don't blow visible water vapor when warming up like most cars seem to.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
My gf bought a 2016 Toyota Camry XLE from Carvana, which according to the Carfax came from New Jersey. The car has 22k miles on it. We live in Arizona, where things don't really rust, and I was inspecting the car and noticed some rust here and there. Can anyone who is familiar with this sort of thing tell me if this is an acceptable amount to see on the struts + engine if the car is only about 3 years old?





Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
That's nothing.

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

Oh sweet summer child.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
My nail clipper has more rust.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

They roll out of northern factories with more rust.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
Cool, good to know. Sorry you guys live where you have the bad seasons.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

Cool, good to know. Sorry you guys live where you have the bad seasons.

I live in Phoenix and have had cars come with more rust than that from the lot :D

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I don't see any rust. What you talk about?

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


I think my WRX in Wisconsin had that much rust by the end of its first summer.

I guess I can have infinite fresh water from a backyard well that I don't have to worry about going dry or being used up by everyone around me so it's a tradeoff.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





shortspecialbus posted:

I guess I can have infinite fresh water from a backyard well that I don't have to worry about going dry or being used up by everyone around me so it's a tradeoff.

You're just jealous that you don't get to practice living in a Mad Max hellscape already.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

MetaJew posted:

Does anyone here own a Hyudai Genesis Coupe or another similar vintage Hyundai? I'm trying to diagnose and fix a problem I noticed on my girlfriend's 2010 3.8 gen coupe.

99% of the time when we drive her car together, I M the one driving. Her AC never seemed to blow that cold, but over last summer I found driving her car in Central Texas to be miserable. To the point I was certain her AC had a leak and lost the refrigerant charge.

This wound up causing arguments when I would say that it's blowing hot air and she would insist that it's cold enough/just fine. We finally realized we were both right, because on the passenger side, sure enough, the AC blew cold air. On the driverside it blew hot.

I finally went and did some googling earlier this week and found that the HVAC blend motors are a common failure on late model Hyundais. I've even found d threads of gen coupe owners complaining about the problem, but no documented fix.

It appears that replacing the blend motors shouldn't be that challenging of the HVAC system is similar to the Elantra and Santa Fe. However, I don't have an FSM for the car so I'm not sure if the blend motors is located on the driverside or passneger side. The car does not have dual zone AC, so I assume that there is only one. But, if it is blowing warm on one side and not both that makes me question if there are still separate motors.

So, I come to you, AI, for advice on locating and replacing it

Sorry to be that guy, but bumping this question to the new page.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
Can you find a copy of the factory service manual online? Generally speaking things like that would be best solved with that information. You could also blindly take apart the dash.

Autoexec.bat
Dec 29, 2012

Just one more level

Dolphin posted:

Torque converter just exploded in front of a 4l60e. Horrible grinding. Stopped driving almost immediately but truck has to be towed. Is there any chance the transmission isn't a paperweight?

Hard to say, it sounds like the torque converter failed internally and ate itself in which case your trans may be fine. There is still a chance the trans failed suddenly and the torque converter was locked which could break a weak converter. Either way you probably need to have it looked at and best case you'll need to have the trans opened up to check for torque converter shrapnel that may have gotten into the main trans.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Edit, reading is hard.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Wrar posted:

Can you find a copy of the factory service manual online? Generally speaking things like that would be best solved with that information. You could also blindly take apart the dash.

I just found an FSM actually and was going to edit my post. Looks like a pretty easy job to access the part.



IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





MetaJew: Which side of the car do the refrigerant lines enter/exit the evaporator - passenger side?

Reason I say this is my CR-V had that exact same symptom, where it is a single-zone system with just one blend door / one actuator motor. A/C would be cold on the passenger side, warm to full on ineffective on the driver's. System pressures seemed okay, it definitely wasn't leaking anything. It ended up being the expansion valve was failing and eventually stuck closed. Enough liquid refrigerant would get through to cool the first part of the core, but it would all evaporate long before it got to the far end (driver's side) of the core. The way I ended up diagnosing it was I decided to go ahead and do a full recharge on the system, which finally made the valve stick shut for good. The compressor would generate good pressure on the high side, but had a hard vacuum on the suction side no matter how much I fed it.

It was, of course, a royal motherfucker of a job to do for a $40 part.

The other possibility is that the blend door itself has failed.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

If I'm putting a new ground into sheetmetal, does it matter what kind of bolt I use? (I'm mostly thinking of finish type - I'd like to use black bolts, something like this: https://www.mcmaster.com/94414a361 )

Is that going to instantly rust or galvanize something it shouldn't? Does it matter if I have a stainless nut on a black-finish bolt, or something like that?

Krakkles fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 12, 2019

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

IOwnCalculus posted:

MetaJew: Which side of the car do the refrigerant lines enter/exit the evaporator - passenger side?

Reason I say this is my CR-V had that exact same symptom, where it is a single-zone system with just one blend door / one actuator motor. A/C would be cold on the passenger side, warm to full on ineffective on the driver's. System pressures seemed okay, it definitely wasn't leaking anything. It ended up being the expansion valve was failing and eventually stuck closed. Enough liquid refrigerant would get through to cool the first part of the core, but it would all evaporate long before it got to the far end (driver's side) of the core. The way I ended up diagnosing it was I decided to go ahead and do a full recharge on the system, which finally made the valve stick shut for good. The compressor would generate good pressure on the high side, but had a hard vacuum on the suction side no matter how much I fed it.

It was, of course, a royal motherfucker of a job to do for a $40 part.

The other possibility is that the blend door itself has failed.

Yeah that is my fear-- that something is hosed in the refrigerant system itself. I believe the refrigerant lines on the Genesis enter on the passenger side.

I am debating what to do. It's tempting to just try replacing the blend door actuator and see if that fixes the problem. If it doesn't I guess I could just take it into a local import auto shop and ask them to diagnose it if it's an issue with the refrigerant system. I don't think my girlfriend is really interested in keeping the car much longer or putting too much money into it, though. And, after helping my brother overhaul the entire AC on a 2001 Tacoma, I don't think I want to get into tearing apart the dash on the genesis. So it might be trade-in time.

She tells me she wants a 2015+ Cayman (Which I selfishly wouldn't mind her getting, but I keep trying to impress on her that we will have to do a better job of keeping the maintenance up to date, and she actually has to tell me when something starts acting weird.)

Thanks for the advice!

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

MetaJew posted:

Yeah that is my fear-- that something is hosed in the refrigerant system itself. I believe the refrigerant lines on the Genesis enter on the passenger side.

Not knowing that car's AC layout - it's entirely possible that it's got an evap on each side. Check the FSM for that.

If you have a low refrigerant charge and that type of setup (where they are in series with the pass side fed first) you'll get those same symptoms, and it could be a "toss in a pound because it's 9 years old and that's a totally normal amount of refrigerant to lose in that time".

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Motronic posted:

Not knowing that car's AC layout - it's entirely possible that it's got an evap on each side. Check the FSM for that.

If you have a low refrigerant charge and that type of setup (where they are in series with the pass side fed first) you'll get those same symptoms, and it could be a "toss in a pound because it's 9 years old and that's a totally normal amount of refrigerant to lose in that time".

CTRL+F'ing through the FSM, it looks like there is just one evaporator:

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Krakkles posted:

If I'm putting a new ground into sheetmetal, does it matter what kind of bolt I use? (I'm mostly thinking of finish type - I'd like to use black bolts, something like this: https://www.mcmaster.com/94414a361 )

Is that going to instantly rust or galvanize something it shouldn't? Does it matter if I have a stainless nut on a black-finish bolt, or something like that?

How much current are you grounding? I typically use a sheet metal screw with a star washer to dig in.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

Motronic posted:

So that's over 40 lbs of water in each tank, not counting the tank itself. Now imagine that in an accident where forward momentum stops rapidly.

Yes, of course it needs to be bolted through the floor, as well as being in proper tanks made for this purpose, otherwise they'll have to be strapped appropriately and likely need what the poster above me mentioned.

Tanks built for this have what, something like built-in bolt holes/flanges? I hadn't even considered that possibility, I had assumed I would be running straps around whatever tanks I found.

So like a bolt with huge fender washers + lock nuts would be the standard here?

The existing subfloor battery box is all sheet metal screws, but it's not hanging from them.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

StormDrain posted:

How much current are you grounding? I typically use a sheet metal screw with a star washer to dig in.
I'm redoing as many of the main grounds on my Cherokee as possible - so specifically, the PCM will be grounded to this. I doubt there's actually that much current running through it currently, because they're pretty flimsy wires, but I'd rather overdo it unless there's some reason I shouldn't. I don't think sheet metal screws is enough in general, and I can't really use them here - it would go through to the wheel well, where it would be broken off by the tire. Again.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





MetaJew posted:

CTRL+F'ing through the FSM, it looks like there is just one evaporator:



With a single blend door, I'm not seeing any way the blend door or actuator would be able to fail in a way where you get part hot part cold. If you can get to it easily no reason not to spend the time diagnosing it further, but I'd bet your next steps should revolve around the refrigerant system. An evac/refill by itself is not difficult.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Javid posted:

Tanks built for this have what, something like built-in bolt holes/flanges? I hadn't even considered that possibility, I had assumed I would be running straps around whatever tanks I found.

So like a bolt with huge fender washers + lock nuts would be the standard here?

The existing subfloor battery box is all sheet metal screws, but it's not hanging from them.

Depends on the tank material. If it's plastic it probably has a plastic flange on at least 2 sides, with some sort of strapping going to a piece of metal that covers the entire flange, and a matching piece of metal (or one you need to make/buy) to go UNDER your sheet metal, then both through both of them. with the tank and sheet metal in the middle.

To demonstrate why this is so important, some quick calculations: if you are doing 60 MPH and hit something the impact force of each of those tanks is over 1000 lbs. So your fastening system better be able to hold more than double that unless you think having a couple of half ton boxes flying around the cabin sounds like a nice cheery on top of an already bad day.

IOwnCalculus posted:

With a single blend door, I'm not seeing any way the blend door or actuator would be able to fail in a way where you get part hot part cold.

That's my take based on the diagram as well, but I'm going to guess there might be another blend door outside of that diagram for individual front temps (probably just something in the ductwork to the driver's side).

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MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Motronic posted:

That's my take based on the diagram as well, but I'm going to guess there might be another blend door outside of that diagram for individual front temps (probably just something in the ductwork to the driver's side).

It doesn't have dual zone temp controls. Can you elaborate?

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