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R. Mute posted:the thing people responded to with killmonger was that he was the only one to come close to a realistic political standpoint in the movie. he's the one that recognises that politics are about power and that sending your spacetrain-tech to america isn't going to stop black people from being oppressed. he's the one that realises the western world isn't just going to sit back and let a tiny african nation take center stage. This is a very good take.  Yeah, it doesn't help that Western audiences are, let's face it, not used to superhero films with an ideological standpoint nowadays. Much less an anti-imperialist one.
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Jan 10, 2019 04:15
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https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1083068386710454272 existential dread rite here!!!! R. Mute posted:the thing people responded to with killmonger was that he was the only one to come close to a realistic political standpoint in the movie. he's the one that recognises that politics are about power and that sending your spacetrain-tech to america isn't going to stop black people from being oppressed. he's the one that realises the western world isn't just going to sit back and let a tiny african nation take center stage. this is the same poo poo that every second comic book movie does. the villain has spot-on analysis of the problem, but also wants to kill everybody for ??? reason
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Jan 10, 2019 04:19
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exmarx posted:this is the same poo poo that every second comic book movie does. the villain has spot-on analysis of the problem, but also wants to kill everybody for ??? reason I mean, it's not like that's exactly unheard of in history. It's just a pretty worn-out conceit in superhero films and comic books.
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Jan 10, 2019 04:22
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R. Mute posted:the thing people responded to with killmonger was that he was the only one to come close to a realistic political standpoint in the movie. he's the one that recognises that politics are about power and that sending your spacetrain-tech to america isn't going to stop black people from being oppressed. he's the one that realises the western world isn't just going to sit back and let a tiny african nation take center stage. quote:Malcolm X went to Selma, where he had a cordial meeting with Coretta Scott King and other civil rights leaders. King was in jail at the time but recalled later:
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Jan 10, 2019 04:22
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if only malcolm x had said that we too live in a society
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Jan 10, 2019 04:55
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The big flaw in Killmonger and the dude in Aquaman and all is the writers realized they had a baddie that was, at worst, doing the right thing the wrong way, and that nuance can't exist in a super hero movie. A comic series where both baddie and goodie get time to have arcs and play off old stories and all? For sure, but not in a two hour movie for all audiences. So they wind up taking a misguided but not wrong character and just having him go from "our people left everyone else to suffer and be destroyed, we need to liberate them" to "I lust for the blood of white babies" with no reason.
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Jan 10, 2019 08:02
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Jan 10, 2019 22:20
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I thought the movie made it abundantly clear that Killmonger didn't so much care about helping oppressed people as he did getting revenge on oppressors, and that furthermore the main reason he was a villain wasn't that his goal was wrong but that he used the worst oppressors of all's means to achieve his ends, failing to recognize that such means can't really be put to good use. In trying to overturn an unjust system he was only going to perpetuate and escalate it. They had an entire scene where he talks to the ghost of his father underlining his central character flaw.
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Jan 11, 2019 02:09
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exmarx posted:https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1083068386710454272 i dont get why all those "futurist" dweebs who love elon are communists. Aliens will only accept us if we are willing to join the interstellar international
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Jan 11, 2019 03:34
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Jan 11, 2019 07:08
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Linkin Park should be considered country ever since their ARE TROOPS song.
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Jan 11, 2019 08:44
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where is deftones
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Jan 11, 2019 08:46
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also i strongly dispute the validity of the mallrat <-> white trash axis
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Jan 11, 2019 08:47
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Puddle of Mudd...now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. A long time...
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Jan 11, 2019 09:07
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luxury handset posted:where is deftones staind and godsmack are conspicuously absent too
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Jan 11, 2019 12:57
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Jan 11, 2019 15:14
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I only know the stuff that hit it big on the radio etc. but, while it's true many of nu metal lyrics are misogynistic and valorize aggression, they're also awful in myriad other ways.
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Jan 11, 2019 15:23
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and the riffs don't even slap
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Jan 11, 2019 15:58
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Every once in awhile when one of my kids is whining in a particular way I hear it over a "I tried so haaard, and got so faaar, but in the end it doesn't really mattaa!" sound bed.
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Jan 11, 2019 16:05
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nu metal is like if you took a decent melvins album and used it to make a hundred other albums via homeopathy
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Jan 11, 2019 17:44
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that's more tool specifically. all the good melvins albums are too weird for nu metal it's homeopathic-grade helmet riffs with a soupçon of 80s funk rock and new romantic cheese
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Jan 11, 2019 18:00
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but most importantly third hand interpretations of side b of my war
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Jan 11, 2019 18:01
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Imagine liking hip hop and criticizing nu metal for misogynistic lyrics. And saying it valorizes aggression is some Marilyn Manson did Columbine FOX news poo poo. Working class kids were already angry because the world is ridiculously lovely and all signs pointed towards it getting even shittier. The generation coming up at the time were hopeless, cynical, and alone. Nu metal touched on that frustration in such a way that it brought all those kids together and showed them that they weren't alone, and allowed them all to vent together. It was therapy. Also the clown guy was hitting a keg with a baseball bat and the german guy had all set himself on fire.
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Jan 11, 2019 18:38
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First time back in America in three years, we have Taco Bell delivery and 5.11 outlet stores now? Wild.
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Jan 11, 2019 20:00
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You can get p much any fast food delivered with the right app. No idea why you would though.
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Jan 11, 2019 20:40
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paragon1 posted:You can get p much any fast food delivered with the right app. No idea why you would though. now im thinking about volkerball ordering gas station hotdog delivery as he listens to slipknot and shops for american flags on wallmart online
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Jan 11, 2019 20:53
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paragon1 posted:You can get p much any fast food delivered with the right app. No idea why you would though. The experience.
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Jan 11, 2019 20:59
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If you haven't at least once ordered McDonalds and contemplated society while it got to you then I don't even know friends.
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Jan 11, 2019 21:00
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Legal weed is nice though
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Jan 11, 2019 21:11
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Pirate Radar posted:Legal weed is nice though e: i still like korn and slipknot, fight me
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Jan 11, 2019 21:14
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Volkerball posted:Imagine liking hip hop and criticizing nu metal for misogynistic lyrics. And saying it valorizes aggression is some Marilyn Manson did Columbine FOX news poo poo. Working class kids were already angry because the world is ridiculously lovely and all signs pointed towards it getting even shittier. The generation coming up at the time were hopeless, cynical, and alone. Nu metal touched on that frustration in such a way that it brought all those kids together and showed them that they weren't alone, and allowed them all to vent together. It was therapy. Also the clown guy was hitting a keg with a baseball bat and the german guy had all set himself on fire.
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Jan 11, 2019 21:19
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Jan 11, 2019 21:33
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drilldo squirt posted:If you haven't at least once ordered McDonalds and contemplated society while it got to you then I don't even know friends. half of the mcdonalds and indeed broader fast food experience is having to publicly confront your shame they should eliminate drive through windows for that very reason
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Jan 11, 2019 21:59
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Shifty Nipples posted:e: i still like korn and slipknot, fight me
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Jan 11, 2019 23:41
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shaggy fought in the gulf war
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Jan 12, 2019 02:16
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Mr Bomb bastic
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Jan 12, 2019 02:22
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exmarx posted:normie opinion: superorganism is pleasant i regret to inform you/me that the guy from superorganism is a rapist https://pitchfork.com/news/superorganisms-mark-turner-sought-restraining-orders-against-two-women-who-spoke-out-against-him
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Jan 12, 2019 02:41
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The Muppets On PCP posted:half of the mcdonalds and indeed broader fast food experience is having to publicly confront your shame Thanks to capitalism I can contract my shame out to the desperate poor and have them bring it to my door.
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Jan 12, 2019 03:45
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exmarx posted:i regret to inform you/me that the guy from superorganism is a rapist https://pitchfork.com/news/superorganisms-mark-turner-sought-restraining-orders-against-two-women-who-spoke-out-against-him That's not gonna replace "milkshake duck," sorry bro.
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Jan 12, 2019 07:49
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exmarx posted:i regret to inform you/me that the guy from superorganism is a rapist https://pitchfork.com/news/superorganisms-mark-turner-sought-restraining-orders-against-two-women-who-spoke-out-against-him
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