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avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

communism cannot and will not work

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

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Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer


take your meds, avs

Boatswain
May 29, 2012
:laffo:

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

Post more about your [KEETS] Avs.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

That's so brilliant it's scary.

Cakebaker
Jul 23, 2007
Wanna buy some cake?

Poil posted:

That's so brilliant it's scary.

V really is perfectly represented in this. Never touching regeringsmakten, but scaring C a bit and then getting hit on the head by S.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

So is alliansen finally dead now with C stabbing them in the back?

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

McCloud posted:

So is alliansen finally dead now with C stabbing them in the back?

Alliansen have been dead for a year or so, someone (C) just decided to actually pull the plug.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
Lol Uffe must be steaming

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

https://www.socialdemokraterna.se/globalassets/aktuellt/utkast-till-sakpolitisk-overenskommelse.pdf

This agreement literally has a Macron-style tax-reform in it. :psyduck:

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Dirk Pitt posted:

Lol Uffe must be steaming
Listening to him now. He's not happy.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Collateral Damage posted:

Listening to him now. He's not happy.

quote:

En riktigt dåligt för Sverige

Lol he gives some great salty press conferences. I think the first one was better when he was counting 1, 2, 3, 4 parties in alliansen. over and over again as he realized he blew it on national television..

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Holy poo poo a thing actually happened?!

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010
gently caress this, this agreement is terrible.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
Don’t they need V onboard to pull this off? Will V really sit idle and accept that C is given a free reign to take a hammer to Arbetsrätten?

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010
I sure hope not, I have already mailed Jonas asking him to vote against Stefan.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Zombiepop posted:

gently caress this, this agreement is terrible.

Election 2022 will literally be right-wing soc-dems versus right-wing conservatives if this gets through.

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010

MiddleOne posted:

Election 2022 will literally be right-wing soc-dems versus right-wing conservatives if this gets through.

AMERICA! Oh ehm...wrong country.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
So am I cynical in wondering why this happened now and not in 2018? Nothing has changed (except C got their precious budget with SD support). That has to be why it happened now.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Norlén putting a formal deadline on the parade probably pushed everyone to quit stalling for time.

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits
This agreement is gonna dissapoint everyone except maybe Mikael Damberg-sossar and some social liberals in L

lavahatt
Nov 7, 2012

Löfven watched the riots i France an went Macron is a guy that i should emulate.
What did Socialdemokraterna actually get from this agreement?

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits
Killing off the remnants of the already dead Alliansen?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

lavahatt posted:

Löfven watched the riots i France an went Macron is a guy that i should emulate.
What did Socialdemokraterna actually get from this agreement?

jobs, i suppose

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Sara Skyttedal having a Twitter meltdown. Maybe she can have a talk to her boss about flirting with SD and the consequences thereof.

https://twitter.com/skyttedal/status/1083734954113204224

Clayton Bigsby fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jan 11, 2019

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Fader Movitz posted:

Killing off the remnants of the already dead Alliansen?

It's a worthy goal for them though, blockpolitik just favors SD and the blue block. That, and the social democrats get to keep their fingers firmly planted in the delicious pie of governance.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

Is, uhh "Quisling" a highly-charged thing to say like I suspect it is?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy
Yes. She's calling them Nazi collaborators.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Potrzebie posted:

Yes. She's calling them Nazi collaborators.

Sara is the rare incarnation of the female rear end in a top hat (see: Ann Coulter) getting a wee bit of attention.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I'm sure Svenskt Näringsliv is popping all the champagne tonight. If L or V doesn't capsize this deal then economic policy is virtually dead politically for the next 4 years and in the 2022 election voters will get to choose between right-wing soc-dems and right-wing nationalists.

Hail Satan.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jan 11, 2019

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Potrzebie posted:

Yes. She's calling them Nazi collaborators.

When C is in fact robbing the nazis of political power for another 4 years?

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
I’m starting to think V should sink it. Someone in my office mentioned a Swedish Language test is now part of citizenship. Is that accurate?

Edit: I have no problem learning Swedish. Mine is rudimentary. It just echoes of my homeland 🇺🇸

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

The decision on how to vote is being made by the party board apparently, don't know when.

Dirk Pitt posted:

I’m starting to think V should sink it. Someone in my office mentioned a Swedish Language test is now part of citizenship. Is that accurate?

Yup, it's something L has been suggesting since all the way back in 2002. It's not just language though, there's going to be society-related questions on it too.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Just lol if you haven't had a citizenship test full of important questions about women's handball and the Olsen Gang for a decade already, do you even know how to xenophobia? smh

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
It's very amusing seeing M/SD/KD people all suddenly being very concerned about the integrity of V's socialist values.

https://twitter.com/skyttedal/status/1083735803170312193

https://twitter.com/sverigevannersd/status/1083781260831571969

https://twitter.com/humanitarmakt/status/1083847865905152001

https://twitter.com/CarlBeuf/status/1083867251600752641

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

When you've spent the last 4 years demonizing Löfven the actual politics stop mattering.

Noshtane
Nov 22, 2007

The fish itself incites to deeds of hunger
V really should drop the entire deal though. They are now the only true leftist party in the Riksdag, S abandoning everything they hold dear. It makes no sense for them to accept a government that has explicitly stated that V is to be kept from any form form of influence while C can take a huge dump on Arbetsrātten.

Re-election might not be the ideal situation but V will have a much better chance trying to pull S left in a Riksdag with a decimated C and no L at all.

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe
On the one hand, killing off the Alliance and keeping SD, KD and M away from power are unambiguously good. On the other hand, goddamn did S bend over for the free market jihadists and anti-Muslim crusaders in C and L.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Mr. Sunshine posted:

On the one hand, killing off the Alliance and keeping SD, KD and M away from power are unambiguously good. On the other hand, goddamn did S bend over for the free market jihadists and anti-Muslim crusaders in C and L.

I don't see the point of dismantling the Alliance if your next step is replacing it.

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Fox Cunning
Jun 21, 2006

salt-induced orgasm in the mouth
Both the red-green and alliance blocks were killed to create a very shaky centre-right neoliberal Macronoid block.

edit: My thinking is that this is the sort of middle politics that already has been out of favor for a while and will inevitably lead to a shift to the populism de jour.

Fox Cunning fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Jan 12, 2019

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