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Come up with a good acronym for peaches and use it for something worth it
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Guze posted:I'd love to know who convinced him the word "wall" was the issue. Three weeks into a shutdown and he still thinks this is a branding problem. President Deals, everybody.
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Guze posted:I'd love to know who convinced him the word "wall" was the issue. I don’t know but it’s like the one thing he has been consistent about and it baffles me every time.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:13
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Ok. I'll play the word game No loving money for Trump's racist peaches.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:13
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Gatts posted:Good article. Shows and exposes the horseshit and how far to go. Not wrong in coming in and at first working with your team, I get that point, but on the other hand shows how weak and ineffective and far things have to go for the Democratic Party. Ocasio, I hope is the start. The Democrats have an opportunity for the next few decades of power with the Progressives and the young generation and they already don’t understand what they have and will miss out on. They haven’t learned. It's a fight that has to happen. Boomers gonna be boomers and like most entrenched in power they will not go gently into that good night so they'll need a hard shove into irrelevancy. The smarter ones will weather vane their asses into line with the new zeitgeist. The party has changed significantly it's finally reached the point that the majority (slight but still a majority) of Democrats identify as liberal and I suspect that's just the beginning of a trend because people aren't surrendering the ground to the conservatives as they have for , well for all of my lifetime. That's why I was genuinely excited by how Beto was running in Texas as an unapologetic liberal willing to push the idea that yes we should care about each other and that it makes us stronger not weaker when we have empathy and compassion. AOC nailed it when she said that our values are more important than specific policy points, that it's most important to have a vision for what we want to make society look like rather than get focusing exclusively on policy minutia. This is forced evolution time, either elected Democrats adapt to the new environment or they are run out of office and replaced. If they truly are most representative of their districts then they have nothing to fear, however the primaries will tell the tale on who has the right answer. The level of angst that they are feeling as a result of her actions just proves that they see the future the question is simply whether or not they adapt. The left has been shut out of the political process in the United States since FDR pretty much and the conservatives and moderates have hosed poo poo up so badly that I think that a lot of people are reaching the point of "gently caress it let's see how these Liberals do it". And the conservatives are scared to death because they may be stupid and ignorant but most of them do understand that the last time the left had political power in the United States we got the New Deal, Great Society, Universal Suffrage, Civil Right Act, Legal Abortion, Regulated commerce , the EPA the FDA , Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and a Democratic President who was so popular that the only reason FDR was a 4 term President was that he died before he could win a 5th one. The entire conservative movement in the United States has been pretty much dedicated to undermining FDR's legacy from the moment he died until it finally peaked with Trump's election. One of the few comforting things in all of this crazy to me has been watching the Republicans get oh so tantalizingly close to their final victory right at the moment that the cultural zeitgeist has reached the point where it's turning against them. That the advent of the internet broke the embargo they put on information critical of conservative ideologies, that our cultural attitudes regarding the marginalized has evolved to the point that more and more people are out right rejecting the xenophobia and bigotry that they rely on to fuel their crazies. As someone who lived through the 70s, 80s, and 90s the change has been incredibly rapid. I'm telling you in 2006 had you told me that a black man named Barrack Hussein Obama would be the 44th President of the United States I'd have called you crazy, yet 2 years later it was a done, and to all of those who are mad about how he governed I'll repeat the same loving thing that I said throughout the 08 election. Just by winning he did more to shift the political debate in this country than anything else that happened since the Great Depression. AOC and these real New Dems (not to be confused with the New Democrats who are the same old DLC shills rebranded) They are changing the conversation, She's able to do something that more established Democrats can't. Which is talk about actual leftist ideas, Note she says something that is "crazy" based on the conservative paradigm of "taxes bad, must balance budget can't pay for everything" and the Right seeing what they believe will be an easy target discovers that "oh wait these ideas aren't the crazy ones" as they get eviscerated by someone who hasn't been cowed by decades of abuse. Of course it's not just that AOC is a great candidate and an effective advocate, She wouldn't have been half as effective if the body politic wasn't ready for it. I mean seriously it's not like Democratic politicians haven't been saying all of this for decades, Keynesian economics isn't exactly a new idea. It's just that the Democrats haven't been able to effectively counter the RWM machine's propaganda when they had no conduit to get their ideas to the people. Seriously prior to the invention of the internet you had to put actual real effort into learning about more left leaning political ideas. In a strange way we can kind of thank our dumb baby reality star so called President because his insistence on forcing Twitter to be an official communications platform for government has provided a way to bypass the media embargo on leftist thought. Because now a politician or media outlet says some biased bullshit and they'll get called out on it. For a long long time the media has used it's one way communication to be a gatekeeper regarding what ideas are valid for "reasonable discussion among serious people" serious people defined as those who will stay within a certain narrative lane. It actually makes me really kind of optimistic about the future. Yeah things suck right now and I don't know how we're going to get out of it. But things are changing and they're changing faster than I think most people realize. A lot more people are paying attention to politics. I said in a previous post that when government is working well it's pretty much invisible, the Republicans however are making it not work well and as such more and more people are gaining an awareness of just how much government does and just how important it is to their comfort and security that it does function properly. And while I know that there will be plenty of cynical goons who are going to poo poo this, the fact that you have major corporations and organizations such as MSNBC, NIKE, Levi, Disney and others going all in on liberal cultural values as being astro-turf virtue signaling motivated by cynical desires for profit, the very fact that these organizations have made this decision means that we're winning this fight. The Right is desperate that's why they have dropped any pretense of playing by the rules, blatant corruption, voter fraud and all of the vile poo poo they've been doing. They're desperately trying to lock in their control and hold back the inevitable shift back to the left that has been building slowly since the fall of the Soviet Union removed their most convenient Boogieman to associate with the Left in order to silence us. Back in the wake of the passage of Prop 8 when I was attempting to comfort a friend who was beside herself with grief over the outcome I noted that the fact that the right as been reduced to fighting over marriage equality was an indication that the culture war was pretty much over, that it hadn't been all that long before that the debate had been whether or not gay people had a right to not be assaulted and murdered so the very fact that the debate had come down to marriage was a sign that the full equality was an inevitability because the social sentiment wasn't going to reverse. That's how change always happens. The powers that be never take activists seriously at the beginning, the first tactic has always been to dismiss them as foolish, out of touch, unrealistic, pipe dreaming fools. That's always the first avenue of attack because it doesn't require them to actually engage with the ideas being presented. That tactic is what the right and their complicit media has used to thwart efforts of the left to shift the debate during the Television age. Centralized and controlled mass media has been the most significant and powerful force against leftist thinking in the modern age. Also I don't think that it's anything uniquely special about AOC that is making her so prominent at the moment. It's more a matter of being in the right place at the right time with the right set of skills (Good understanding of economics, and a razor sharp wit.) and holding the right values that resonate with the electorate. To the concerns of the idiots worried about cult of personality nonsense it's not about nor has it ever been about AOC, she's a symbol of a movement of a frustration with the status quo that isn't working for people. She may be the most visible face of that movement, but movements are different from Personality Cults as they are not dependent on the leader. And this movement has more than just her as leaders.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:14
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Jan 11, 2019 22:17
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Guze posted:I'd love to know who convinced him the word "wall" was the issue. Someone likely suggested that to him once and he latched onto it. But of course he can't keep anything consistent so he keeps forgetting.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:18
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Three weeks into a shutdown and he still thinks this is a branding problem. President Deals, everybody. Branding is the only thing he's ever had moderate success with, so I can see why he thinks he can somehow just keep changing it.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:19
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It'd be cool if federal workers could sue fox news for basically causing the shutdown.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:19
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bobjr posted:Come up with a good acronym for peaches and use it for something worth it Probably Everyone's A Criminal Here Except Spicer
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Jan 11, 2019 22:21
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Especially Spicer
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Jan 11, 2019 22:22
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VH4Ever posted:You sure that was their point? 5 pages back, but that was the point. The rock is not a boomer, but boomers are the definitive snowflakes. Nobody gets as upset as a boomer that isn’t being catered to.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:23
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Gaunab posted:It'd be cool if federal workers could sue fox news for basically causing the shutdown. It was more Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter
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Jan 11, 2019 22:23
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This is a pretty big deal Holy poo poo. I never even purchased that Mumia of equal or larger size.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:24
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Guze posted:I'd love to know who convinced him the word "wall" was the issue. I think it's because it's exactly the sort of face saving technicality he would totally go for if the situation was reversed.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:25
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It was more Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter Oh what new and terrifying things could the TSA come up with the next time Limbaugh and Coulter decide to fly somewhere?
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Jan 11, 2019 22:28
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Madkal posted:Oh what new and terrifying things could the TSA come up with the next time Limbaugh and Coulter decide to fly somewhere? Americans in general and Conservatives in particular are well known for their ability to properly assign blame when they have been wronged.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:30
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Spikeguy posted:What the gently caress is up with WV? Also, god drat it Louisiana you disappoint me. All that CLEAN COAL though! 
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Jan 11, 2019 22:30
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quote:He occasionally misses things that happen on the right. 
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Jan 11, 2019 22:33
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Holy poo poo. I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately remembered this joke.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:33
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Trump campaigned for more jobs, not paychecks
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Jan 11, 2019 22:35
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Office Pig posted:
Holy poo poo  And retweeted by totally not-racist Lil Ben! I still think we should be wary of Likud and Putin's increasing chummyness
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Jan 11, 2019 22:36
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This is a pretty big deal tbh I don't even know what could be in the boxes, the fact that they never even ran tests on the gun to confirm he shot it and the literal only witnesses who claim he 'confessed' were two cops who were friends with the dead guy. Like, yea I hope there's somehow MORE rock solid proof of conspiracy but this already shouldn't even be a debated issue.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:37
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Tatsuta Age posted:The rock admitted he’s a deplorable, op That sucks.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:40
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1083503856531705862 I'm pretty disappointed that "dotard" hasn't caught on as a replacement for this. Just change two letters!
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Jan 11, 2019 22:42
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Pigbuster posted:I don’t know but it’s like the one thing he has been consistent about and it baffles me every time. It's got to be some game of telephone where someone said something to him and he got half the message.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:43
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Bicyclops posted:It's got to be some game of telephone where someone said something to him and he got half the message. Someone probably told him he needs to stop talking about a wall (heavily implying it isn't going to happen) and he took it to mean he shouldn't use the word itself. He probably thinks this makes him very clever.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:45
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Peaches? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Buu--GEIMM
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Jan 11, 2019 22:46
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Show up at his office with 5 billion dollars in peaches and demand he sign the budget
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Jan 11, 2019 22:46
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Crow Jane posted:Meh, they're still a massive corporate chain selling mediocre food. Eat local. Local for me is megaMAGA land.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:47
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Crow Jane posted:I can't wait for the internal marketing stuff to come out and make it crystal clear they know what dumb rubes their listeners are yeah I no poo poo want to read this lunacy
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Jan 11, 2019 22:47
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CuddleCryptid posted:Show up at his office with 5 billion dollars in peaches and demand he sign the budget It's unfortunately 3 billion pounds of peaches, so it would be hard for most people to carry. You'd need a pocket dimension to seal them in.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:48
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Bicyclops posted:It's unfortunately 3 billion pounds of peaches, so it would be hard for most people to carry. You'd need a pocket dimension to seal them in. I mean Congress clearly has nothing going on this weekend so use them to haul peaches
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Jan 11, 2019 22:49
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Millions of peaches. Peaches for me.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:49
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Peaches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAnQqVJ3XQ
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Jan 11, 2019 22:51
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Peaches are one of my favorite fruits/foods in general, but seeing as how they get bruised and inedible if you so much as look at them wrong, the Trump association is probably apt.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:51
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TulliusCicero posted:Holy poo poo @TheMossadIL is a joke account and exclusively makes "we're watching you poop" type tweets.
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Jan 11, 2019 22:51
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I swear, I will go to my grave thinking of Trump's peaches.
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CannonFodder posted:Local for me is megaMAGA land. Head east, you know the address.
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