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Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

Syndlig posted:

so i see the thread has decided to descend into boring baby poo poo for dumb idiots so instead i'm going to talk about stuff that actually matters and post pictures from an action we did today. a bunch of comrades from all over Texas drove down to Laredo to stage a protest at the "Laredo Processing Facility", a detention center run by CoreCivic (a.k.a. Corrections Corporation of America), a for-profit private prison company that partners with ICE to detain asylum seekers, torture them, and use them as slave labour.

we were specifically here to support Griselda Cruz Lopez, a woman who was detained at the T Don Hutto detention center until she was retaliated against and relocated here to separate her from community and support after Taylor (the city where T Don Hutto is) city councilmembers started visiting her and making their abuses and torturing of her more visible. she asked us to do this for her in spite of ICE's extreme retaliation against her when 3 people went to stand outside their facility with signs last month.

about ~65 people were able to make the drive from Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, and elsewhere down for this action. we had drums and percussion (provided by the super awesome Maracatu Texas who have been coming to our actions more and more) and pissed off CCA employees that they came out and started yelling at us to get off the grass and sidewalk which we promptly ignored. was a hella good time and i am sunburnt like crazy because i forgot that some parts of Texas are actually a desert.

https://www.facebook.com/grassrootsleadership/videos/2393284464034029/





This is cool.

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
All those coastal elites meeting in a small town in the middle of montana

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dreddout posted:

All those coastal elites meeting in a small town in the middle of montana

DSA Davos

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
re: DSA endorsing Bernie, there’s a whole process for candidate endorsements usually, correct? One of the meetings I attended in Milwaukee was contemplating endorsing local candidates.

Is there an official process for a national level candidate like for a presidential race?

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Lightning Knight posted:

re: DSA endorsing Bernie, there’s a whole process for candidate endorsements usually, correct? One of the meetings I attended in Milwaukee was contemplating endorsing local candidates.

Is there an official process for a national level candidate like for a presidential race?

I think there's one uniform process: the NPC can be asked by any local chapter to endorse a candidate that the local in question endorsed. This goes from town council member to president I think? It might not be the most robust system now that the org is so big tbh.

https://www.dsausa.org/resources/faq/#endorsement

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004






if you’re in NYC, this is happening on MLK day. on one of the organizing meetings, one thing that came up was some kind of post march activity to help maintain momentum and build connections. anyone have any ideas?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rated PG-34 posted:



if you’re in NYC, this is happening on MLK day. on one of the organizing meetings, one thing that came up was some kind of post march activity to help maintain momentum and build connections. anyone have any ideas?

Sorry, that's neither labor, elections, or m4a

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Rated PG-34 posted:

if you’re in NYC, this is happening on MLK day. on one of the organizing meetings, one thing that came up was some kind of post march activity to help maintain momentum and build connections. anyone have any ideas?

What kind of resources do you have? Are you thinking of an post-event with food that is meant to be social or perhaps inviting guest speakers to help energize people?

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

Larry Parrish posted:

The people who claim to be fellow socialists but mysteriously sound like Mao was writing about them specifically from 100 years in the past are once again making a vague but loud attempt to steer the policy of a socialist mass organization from their literal ivory towers. And this thread is upset because the guy famous for hiring servants he didn't pay is saying it's good actually and another dude is apparently roleplaying functional illiteracy so people keep arguing with his stupid rear end instead of examining the obviously counter revolutionary sentiment of this statement

This actually explains a lot lmao

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Rated PG-34 posted:



if you’re in NYC, this is happening on MLK day. on one of the organizing meetings, one thing that came up was some kind of post march activity to help maintain momentum and build connections. anyone have any ideas?

if it hasn’t been contemplated or planned already, a rally with speakers has usually been good for nyc marches that have a dsa contingent or have been sponsored by a nyc dsa working group, at least in my experience

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




Lightning Knight posted:

What kind of resources do you have? Are you thinking of an post-event with food that is meant to be social or perhaps inviting guest speakers to help energize people?

we definitely need speakers for the march itself. I was thinking of something low key where people could at least gather and talk

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Dreddout posted:

Lmao this statement couldn't be more uninformed

Most of the Columbia Falls people (Marge aside) live in flyover country that's why they met in Montana rather than a coastal city

Why are you people this way?

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Pittsburgh DSA is going to vote on a motion for dismissal against the "father's rights" guy who keeps showing up to socfem committee meetings to harass women. Vote's happening at the next general meeting, which I will miss because it's my birthday and I don't want to spend it dealing with that prick.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Rated PG-34 posted:

we definitely need speakers for the march itself. I was thinking of something low key where people could at least gather and talk

Perhaps you could do an ice cream social? Something fun to decompress after the march. I think you at least need to plan for something that people can sit at since they will have been walking a bunch.

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
whew thanks Tercio ive been away so i wasnt able to be insanely aggressive about stupid poo poo and im glad to see you were able to carry that torch for me. alright, what are we bitterly arguing about now

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

liberalism

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Rated PG-34 posted:

we definitely need speakers for the march itself. I was thinking of something low key where people could at least gather and talk

i'm biased towards quiet bars, especially since it's cold, but the other factor is how many people you're expecting after

definitely bring sign-up sheets, pens, etc. though

edit: does the coalition have nyc dsa or a group/branch as a formal co-sponsor or endorser? if so, definitely reach out to the nyc dsa media team for social media promotion - feel free to pm me if you need any help there

Crusader has issued a correction as of 22:11 on Jan 13, 2019

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Lightning Knight posted:

Jesus Christ you guys are being such goobers about this poo poo.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Tercio posted:

Why are you people this way?



I literally excluded Marge in my initial post you dunce

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Tercio posted:

Why are you people this way?



the central valley is 100% fly over country

in that i wish i could fly it over instead of having to visit family there

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

hey i havent checked in on the thread in a while has wj paid his maid yet

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
all the Hillary men come together for a BIG caucus

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Vhak lord of hate posted:

whew thanks Tercio ive been away so i wasnt able to be insanely aggressive about stupid poo poo and im glad to see you were able to carry that torch for me. alright, what are we bitterly arguing about now

i agree, an ostensibly socialist organization wanting to distance itself from labor is stupid poo poo

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Thinking that the workplace is the most important place to organize workers is both ableist and exclusionary (to people who don't need to work because they're wealthy).

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
The real organizing takes place in group DMs.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

anyone have any dsa news that wont make me more depressed or angry?

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Ace of Baes posted:

Thinking that the workplace is the most important place to organize workers is both ableist and exclusionary (to people who don't need to work because they're wealthy).

sure when we say “labor” we mean those who are required to sell said labor for a wage in order to survive, which applies to almost everyone regardless of their ability
so unemployed people, disabled people, etc, are all all a part of labor, because its describing a class of people
yes, there is room to focus on other oppressed groups, but what makes labor important, what makes the working class important, is that they have the capability to end systems of oppression through their class position

lol nah gently caress that universal poo poo

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Dreddout posted:

I literally excluded Marge in my initial post you dunce

You said the statement was written by flyovers. The only two authors are from loving DC and CA. So you named one, I'm now naming the other. Either you were wrong, misleading, or lying.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Goon Danton posted:

anyone have any dsa news that wont make me more depressed or angry?

https://twitter.com/ChicagoCityDSA/status/1084546383699415040?s=19

https://twitter.com/detroitdsa/status/1084242534145163264?s=19
https://twitter.com/detroitdsa/status/1084111714394738689?s=19


https://twitter.com/BhamDSA/status/1083468512796934144?s=19


https://twitter.com/CentralNJDSA/status/1084148769317421056?s=19

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What the... liberals in the DSA being willfully misleading?!

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

the author of the "Columbia Falls Statement" is hilariously anti-labor. she routinely gets basic factual information wrong about unions and labor history and for whatever reason* most of DC DSA are really, really detached from anything that challenges their parents careers in the DC consultant class

*DC DSA is overwhelmingly full of upper middle class/legit wealthy grad students who live on daddy's dime

Dreddout posted:

All those coastal elites meeting in a small town in the middle of montana

she lives in northwest DC OP

Tercio posted:

So why was the Columbia Falls Statement necessary?

larping from people who just read the Combahee River Collective's wiki page for the first time

big business man has issued a correction as of 01:05 on Jan 14, 2019

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Ace of Baes posted:

Thinking that the workplace is the most important place to organize workers is both ableist and exclusionary (to people who don't need to work because they're wealthy).

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Tercio posted:

You said the statement was written by flyovers. The only two authors are from loving DC and CA. So you named one, I'm now naming the other. Either you were wrong, misleading, or lying.

It was created by a group that attended a meeting and written up by those two

You would know this if you did any independent digging
https://mobile.twitter.com/malloy_online/status/1083905486439641088

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Tercio posted:

You said the statement was written by flyovers. The only two authors are from loving DC and CA. So you named one, I'm now naming the other. Either you were wrong, misleading, or lying.

you've never been to Central Valley, have you? Trust me that's flyover

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Dreddout posted:

It was created by a group that attended a meeting and written up by those two

You would know this if you did any independent digging
https://mobile.twitter.com/malloy_online/status/1083905486439641088

If you showed me that picture without context I would assume it's a goonmeet.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Dreddout posted:

It was created by a group that attended a meeting and written up by those two

You would know this if you did any independent digging
https://mobile.twitter.com/malloy_online/status/1083905486439641088

DSA doesnt accurately represent the working class...? :thunk:

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Dreddout posted:

It was created by a group that attended a meeting and written up by those two

You would know this if you did any independent digging
https://mobile.twitter.com/malloy_online/status/1083905486439641088

She specifically claims two authors.

https://twitter.com/mags_mclaugh/status/1083836411390746624

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/mags_mclaugh/status/1083859620114755584?s=19

Oh they're trying to pass it as a proclamation or whatever at the convention, at least it has a purpose.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Goon Danton posted:

Pittsburgh DSA is going to vote on a motion for dismissal against the "father's rights" guy who keeps showing up to socfem committee meetings to harass women. Vote's happening at the next general meeting, which I will miss because it's my birthday and I don't want to spend it dealing with that prick.

father's rights guy, as chairman of the DSA Mansplainer's Caucus, dm me

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
(in incredibly smug voice)
I loving co-authored the Columbia Falls Statement, so don't try to tell me what socialism is.

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