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Pizza Segregationist posted:Am I the only one who grew up thinking that comic books were an old timey thing from like the 50s and had no idea they were still being made? Impressive that you managed to post this in between screaming at the sight of a smartphone now they finally let you out of that basement
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Manga is sold in book-sized volumes for reasonable prices in all the same shops where comic books are 5 bucks a pop for tiny pamphlets of 10% ads 90% lovely art probably by some guy tracing porn and basically a paragraph worth of actual story progression Then there's the graphic novels published by regular publishers and sold in regular bookstores. I'm told they do fine
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ive heard squirrel girl collections are popular at scholastic book sales and from what ive seen of this comic in out of context internet snippets it appears to actually be written in such a way that children might want to read it which probably has more to do with its success than the protagonist being female meanwhile with characters people have actually heard of marvel decided to run a storyline that retconned captain america into having gone to a gay nazi boarding school and when people pointed out how completely loving stupid this was wokes decided that only nazis would dare to press such a criticism somehow
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Re: comics, the best thing about them was whoever was doing the writing. I remember reading some pretty good Captain America stuff in the mid 90s and honestly, who gives a gently caress about that dork? Conversely, you could take a cool superhero and have some hopeless writer make the story unreadable. The art is only half the thing, you need good writing too. Also Adam Warlock is cooler than Dr. Strange.
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Some Guy TT posted:ive heard squirrel girl collections are popular at scholastic book sales and from what ive seen of this comic in out of context internet snippets it appears to actually be written in such a way that children might want to read it which probably has more to do with its success than the protagonist being female The recent Squirrel Girl run is very fun. The art, though, gets worse with each issue. It was okay when it was supposed to be quirky, but now I think the artist is purposefully drawing them as ugly as humanly possible.
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Pizza Segregationist posted:Am I the only one who grew up thinking that comic books were an old timey thing from like the 50s and had no idea they were still being made? I grew up thinking it was weird putting so much emphasis on one dude. Same reason I don't like celebrities. Capitalism loves cults of personality, which was always against how I was raised.
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Some Guy TT posted:can we make him a transwoman too What do you think the lavender kryptonite is for?
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Some Guy TT posted:ive heard squirrel girl collections are popular at scholastic book sales and from what ive seen of this comic in out of context internet snippets it appears to actually be written in such a way that children might want to read it which probably has more to do with its success than the protagonist being female at risk of getting Yelled At again, its literally just american superhero comics for traditioal (old white guy) audiences that are failing. squirrel girl, moon girl, and ms marvel (the one about the muslim teenager fangirl) all sell really well at book fairs and poo poo, and in barnes and noble and such, none of which is really tracked by marvel because ??????????????????? manga is selling better than ever thanks to a big increase in the amount of stuff coming over and raina telgemeir whose name i just absolutely butchered is doing like single volume YA/preteen novels that are just thick hardcover comics and sell like loving hot cakes. she got started doing adaptations of babysitters club books and by the time they stopped tracking "graphic novel" sales for the purpose of NYT bestsellers, in the summer of 2017, she was seven of the top ten spots, alongside Fun Home and Persepolis. one of those books was on there for five years as of the last update of that list. five years. all of these things do well with big air quotes "non traditional" comics audiences and sell especially well outside of hobby stores read: people who arent lovely white dudes love them and they love to buy them outside of lovely white dude establishments where they don't have to feel unsafe and a lot of that is just that they're actually explicitly and deliberately made for those audiences, they dont try to hook those audiences into what is at the end of the day another lovely white guy comic, or, in the case of manga, thers just an absolute gently caress ton of it and no matter what you're into there's a couple books about it. you into rock climbing? Kokou no Hito is an actual manga that starts off generic sports manga and ends with being about crippling depression and obsession driving you to your death on a freezing rock. tldr death to marvel death to dc and i'll take that happy meal to go thank you
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comics shops are loving dead I don’t think anyone’s not buying from them because they “feel unsafe”*, and more so as a teen getting your parents to drive you half and hour or more into a weird part of town to ogle at books for twice the driving time is a little impractical *EDIT: Apart from my hometown where the twitchy shopowner lived in there and shot dead burglars on more than one occasion. Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 03:49 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Dr. Killjoy posted:comics shops are loving dead I don’t think anyone’s not buying from them because they “feel unsafe”*, and more so as a teen getting your parents to drive you half and hour or more into a weird part of town to ogle at books for twice the driving time is a little impractical Not that kind of unsafe. Better word is unwelcome.
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You can just buy comics online these days anyway. The comic shop in my city's been locked up for weeks with mail piling up and apparently had the locks changed according to a legal letter taped to the glass door saying they haven't paid rent. And I think the stereotypical dusty nerd dungeons are dying out for a number of reasons, as much as they ever existed in the first place.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You can just buy comics online these days anyway. Look man I don't know what to tell you but "comic stores are unwelcome pits of dipshits" is still an idea that has varying degrees of merit despite digital comics being real
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Jan 14, 2019 07:25
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Even people who like comics don't like comic stores.
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Light Gun Man posted:Even people who like comics don't like comic stores. I work at one and I hate them
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I work at one and I hate them I'm pretty sure the people who work at them hate them most of all.
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My LCS is also a game shop so it basically uses MTG whales to subsidize the comics part of the shop. I know that makes it sound like an absolute nightmare zone but as someone who doesn't really care about comics or MTG it's pretty great.
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Retromancer posted:My LCS is also a game shop so it basically uses MTG whales to subsidize the comics part of the shop. Isn't that super common? I might have some weird experiences since the dusty dungeon nerd stores in my city seem to have all shut down and the weeaboo shop had a huge renovation years ago and became like an Apple store with anime and video game merchandise arranged neatly in glass display cases.
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Crane Fist posted:Impressive that you managed to post this in between screaming at the sight of a smartphone now they finally let you out of that basement Nowadays they are hard to miss, but I mean growing up the the 90s/00s. I knew about X-men and Batman and stuff from the cartoons. But I was a nerdy kid with nerdy friends and never saw anyone read a comic book. Now there's a bunch of 30 something dudes who apparently grew up reading comics and know all about marvel characters and stuff. It feels like a Mandela effect situation
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Pizza Segregationist posted:Nowadays they are hard to miss, but I mean growing up the the 90s/00s. I knew about X-men and Batman and stuff from the cartoons. But I was a nerdy kid with nerdy friends and never saw anyone read a comic book. Now there's a bunch of 30 something dudes who apparently grew up reading comics and know all about marvel characters and stuff. It feels like a Mandela effect situation I have about 5% of my old comics collection from when I was a kid, and almost all that started because I liked the cartoons. Most of the stuff is Marvel/DC with a few cool, older things thrown in (still got some Lone Wolf and Cub). The only thing I ever kept in a sleeve was an old Spiderman comic and somewhere, I think, is the first Savage Dragon comic beat to hell from being read too much. Most of the people I see talking about comics are doing so in the context of the new movies and don't pass muster when it comes to really reading them. Some of my friends were bigtime nerds, trading Marvel flairs/fleers after school and stuff. We pretty much all gave it up in middle school. So people did read comics, but it might have been less common than I thought since my companions were all nerds (which wasn't a good label). As for the stores, I always liked them even though the owners were almost always fat old chisellers who treated everyone like poo poo. Annoy them by loitering, touching everything and only making very small purchases. Vicious circle, I guess. Ghost Leviathan posted:Isn't that super common? Yeah, it's pretty common for comic stores to carry games (esp popular money grabbers like MtG and Warhammer) but some towns still have comics-only stores. Probably dying out, though.
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Bogus Adventure posted:The recent Squirrel Girl run is very fun. The art, though, gets worse with each issue. It was okay when it was supposed to be quirky, but now I think the artist is purposefully drawing them as ugly as humanly possible. The artist changed at issue 31. I mean I read it because Ryan North is a fun comic writer who has a decade of proof that he really doesn't *need* an artist.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Isn't that super common? The economics of MTG are kind of hosed as of a couple years ago thanks to D I S R U P T I O N so no not really Edit I might write about this when I get home, because it's literally a start up disrupting a market and now there's not nearly as much money in it for everyone else as there used to be
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Pizza Segregationist posted:Nowadays they are hard to miss, but I mean growing up the the 90s/00s. I knew about X-men and Batman and stuff from the cartoons. But I was a nerdy kid with nerdy friends and never saw anyone read a comic book. Now there's a bunch of 30 something dudes who apparently grew up reading comics and know all about marvel characters and stuff. It feels like a Mandela effect situation The comics industry had a massive boom in the 90s so Yeah you're still an exception
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phasmid posted:I have about 5% of my old comics collection from when I was a kid, and almost all that started because I liked the cartoons. Most of the stuff is Marvel/DC with a few cool, older things thrown in (still got some Lone Wolf and Cub). The only thing I ever kept in a sleeve was an old Spiderman comic and somewhere, I think, is the first Savage Dragon comic beat to hell from being read too much. My town has at least one comic store, but it's also full of manga and various merchandise. Its also a nerdy as gently caress town.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Isn't that super common? so in general yes most comics stores have Something Else they use to subsidize the comics half of things. for us, its board games. magic used to be a fairly profitable thing as of a few years ago, but the money is drying up for brick and mortar. see back in the olden times, when i started working at the shop, there were two online retailers for singles and really only one of them mattered and basically dictated market price for things. because there wasnt realllly a ton of fluctuation in price across vendors, whether online or local, it was fairly easy to sell singles, and if the price of an individual card was too high someone would probably buy a pack of whatever set it was in (if they could) and play the lotto. it kinda sucked but everyone went with it because it worked well enough then tcg player came along and basically became amazon's marketplace but for cards, and opened it up to literally everyone. now prices are a race to the bottom and stores with overhead like payroll and product cost struggle to make money off singles because its hard to compete with guys who are flipping poo poo they traded for last weekend because they had a hunch it would spike and doing it on their phone after work. tcgplayer, of course, takes a cut of every sale, so they're doing okay, but they're about the only ones but dickeye what about the packs? surely people still shoot the lotto! no, anonymous poster, they don't, because there's almost certainly someone selling it cheaper on tcg player (edit than it would be to buy a couple packs and hope for the best). and if that wasn't bad enough wizards of the coast, the manufacturer, has started selling directly through amazon for 100 dollars per box of 36 booster packs. those boxes are roughly 85 dollars, cost (source: i know the password to our distributor). loving impossible to compete with that. this is especially galling because wotc has always talked a big game about how important hobby stores are with running friday night magic and being the gateway for the vast majority of players into the game. so yeah. singles sales are drying up, and the ones that happen dont make as much money. individual pack sales are drying up (except around holidays!). booster box sales are drying up. we've had serious talks about how much deeper we want to get into magic or if we want to sunset it thanks to disruption and a company that has always sworn it wouldnt be big without local hobby stores supporting them turning and cutting a sick deal with the devil BENGHAZI 2 has issued a correction as of 23:48 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Tunicate posted:The artist changed at issue 31. Thank goodness. Erica Henderson was okay at first, but she decided to make each character aggressively uglier with each issue.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Thank goodness. Erica Henderson was okay at first, but she decided to make each character aggressively uglier with each issue. Yeah it ruled
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Some Guy TT posted:crossposting from the cursed images thread garfield is better than hamilton too
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Dreddout posted:The wizards all start making GBS threads and teleport the poo poo onto the condemned crushing them to death Iain M Banks already wrote this subplot way better.
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LMM being a Garfield obsessive the same way I was a Thomas the Tank Engine obsessive (I even had the same birthday cake crisis) explains so much. (Mind you I was literally three)
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Paladinus posted:Comics are bad. Counterpoint: Tintin
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Lmao, you fuckers were peddling 'toxic masculinity' for decades, and will absolutely continue to do so at least in non-English speaking countries until it stops selling, which is never. But thanks for your new anti-rape razor, I guess.
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That gilette backlash gives me an idea. Order a small batch of non-branded dorco shaving systems and make your own chud-oriented brand with the tagline like shaving the RIGHT way or something. CHUD razors. We straight rape bitches,yo! gently caress, i hate that I use chud. It's such a lame insult, but it's so short...
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