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Senor Tron posted:Do people have guesses for the end of the season? If it's anything like the last two finales things are gonna get shaken up a lot again. I've given up on predicting what this show is about - after episode 1 of season 3 I thought we were going to have a season of Adam Scott messing with the humans, and that was one episode. If you told me that it would take 10 episodes for everyone to die, go to the good place, and find out capitalism was the real problem all along there's no way I would have believed it, even knowing how fast season 2 moved.
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My guess is Michael gets to set up a neighborhood as a "temporary Good Place" for people with positive scores (but not good enough to get into the actual Good Place) while the problem is looked into.
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Jan 14, 2019 13:35
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Piell posted:My guess is Michael gets to set up a neighborhood as a "temporary Good Place" for people with positive scores (but not good enough to get into the actual Good Place) while the problem is looked into. The Okay Place
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Senor Tron posted:Do people have guesses for the end of the season? If it's anything like the last two finales things are gonna get shaken up a lot again. They have name dropped Rawls and the Veil of Ignorance in a few interviews, but it hasn't come up on the show yet. My guess is that one of the concepts they cover when trying to fix the points system, or replace it entirely.
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Jan 14, 2019 16:00
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Senor Tron posted:Do people have guesses for the end of the season? If it's anything like the last two finales things are gonna get shaken up a lot again.
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Jan 14, 2019 17:11
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qirex posted:Maybe they'll do a fakeout. That would be bad. Please stop suggesting ideas that are bad when the show is, in fact, good.
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Jan 14, 2019 17:24
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To elaborate, if they did that at this point it would establish that Michael and the Bad Place demons have such a ridiculous control over reality and the humans' perception that there would literally never be a reason for the humans to ever attempt to fight back. It would immediately suck any kind of tension or narrative potential out of the show because it would always just be about "wow these Bad Place guys are still doing the zaniest poo poo to trick these humans yet again" Also it would directly contradict a bunch of stuff that happened that even the humans didn't know about, that wasn't for the benefit of them being tortured and wouldn't make sense if they still were being tortured all along.
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Jan 14, 2019 17:37
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Guy A. Person posted:Also it would directly contradict a bunch of stuff that happened that even the humans didn't know about, that wasn't for the benefit of them being tortured and wouldn't make sense if they still were being tortured all along.
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Jan 14, 2019 17:57
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WampaLord posted:The show definitely wants you to read into it more and clearly wants to prompt discussions about ethics and morality, so just dismissing it as being free of deeper meaning seems misguided. It does, because Jeremy Bearimy doesn't explain actual time discussion in that way and also because it's more fun to discuss the show than to just say nothing. Why are you here if you don't want to talk about it? I think the person who said that Michael will reboot it all and become "God" and this is the first time around and we're the second is a pretty good shout.
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Jan 14, 2019 18:31
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It turns out that the entire cast of the show "The Good Place" is demons and it is we, the audience, who they are getting to torture each other in this thread, the real Bad Place, by incessantly bringing up timeline discussion.
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Jan 14, 2019 18:41
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Taear posted:It does, because Jeremy Bearimy doesn't explain actual time discussion in that way and also because it's more fun to discuss the show than to just say nothing. Why are you here if you don't want to talk about it? I do want to talk about the show, but I don't want to have the same conversation over and over about what does 500 years mean? It means 500 years. Now we can talk about the show!
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WampaLord posted:I don't want to have the same conversation over and over Jeremy Taearimy.
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Whiz Palace posted:That would be bad. Please stop suggesting ideas that are bad when the show is, in fact, good. What I like about this show is the fact that they're willing to blow the whole premise up on a near-weekly basis. After 3 seasons I feel like the current story has picked up a bunch of complex lore baggage that they'll probably want to somehow dispose of or clean up at the end of the season, like how at the end of season 1 we find out we know nothing about the actual good place and at the end of season 2 everyone's alive again and we have no clue where they're going. I'd guess this business at IHOP with the judge will result in another kind of big change. Have the creators ever said this show has a planned end date?
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qirex posted:This is a sitcom and that could be a very Schur-ey throwaway joke. I think Schur's been quoted as saying he's got a plan for 5 seasons or so, with an ending.
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emgeejay posted:I think Schur's been quoted as saying he's got a plan for 5 seasons or so, with an ending. That sounds nice and complete to me. 7 seasons is for star trek shows that take two seasons to get going.
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WampaLord posted:I do want to talk about the show, but I don't want to have the same conversation over and over about what does 500 years mean? I do. Why can't they just say the number of the year and sort it out please thank you.
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Jan 14, 2019 19:22
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Taear posted:I do. Why can't they just say the number of the year and sort it out please thank you. If they said "The last person to enter the afterlife was in 1492" you would just complain that that is meaningless because there is no present.
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oh jay posted:If they said "The last person to enter the afterlife was in 1492" you would just complain that that is meaningless because there is no present. I absolutely wouldn't, because that'd make total sense. Even if 2196 and 1300 are happening simultaneously for the afterlife you still know nobody entered the Good Place who was born after 1492 in the "real world". Michael can still be mad that 1400 years would mean loads of time that he'd have to wait around for something to happen and we can still know that time is different in the real world and in the afterlife.
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Jan 14, 2019 19:45
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Taear posted:I think the person who said that Michael will reboot it all and become "God" and this is the first time around and we're the second is a pretty good shout.
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Whalley posted:Michael's going to destroy it all and the crew are his Four Horsemen; Indecision, Vanity, Trash, and Jason Michael and Janet together, but yeah this completely works for me.
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Jan 14, 2019 20:57
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It's basically Paradise Found - Instead of the Fall of the Former-Angel-Turned-Demon Lucifer, it's the Rise of the Former-Demon-Turned-Archangel Michael.
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BioEnchanted posted:It's basically Paradise Found - Instead of the Fall of the Former-Angel-Turned-Demon Lucifer, it's the Rise of the Former-Demon-Turned-Archangel Michael. I did note to myself that Michael is an archangel's name.
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Exploitation and capitalism is sending everyone to hell, so the gang needs to go back to earth along with supernatural powers and usher in the immortal science.
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silvergoose posted:I did note to myself that Michael is an archangel's name. It's probably the cleverest bit of misdirection the show had at the start - I totally took for granted "Oh hey, he's a Heaven admin and named after an angel, that's cool." and never thought on it further. Never guessed that he'd be a demon as a result.
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Baronjutter posted:Exploitation and capitalism is sending everyone to hell, so the gang needs to go back to earth along with supernatural powers and usher in the immortal science. S4 spoiler: 
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Zedd posted:S4 spoiler: Fully automated? Ugh. That's, like, easily the third worst kind of luxury gay space communism.
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Taear posted:I do. Why can't they just say the number of the year and sort it out please thank you. Because Jeremy Bearimy. Do you need us to draw you a diagram?
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tarlibone posted:Fully automated? Ugh. That's, like, easily the third worst kind of luxury gay space communism. So you're one of those artisanal luxury gay space communism hipsters 
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Taear posted:I absolutely wouldn't, because that'd make total sense. Even if 2196 and 1300 are happening simultaneously for the afterlife you still know nobody entered the Good Place who was born after 1492 in the "real world". Under that interpretation every human after 1492 through the end of time is in Hell and has been tortured for possibly multiple lifettimes and counting. The way the show is treating time is half-baked nonsense, but the way you want it to be is much much worse. Or maybe not, because Jeremy Bearimy oh jay fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Jeremy Bearimy was literally a joke written by a writer who was tired of the over-complicated nonsense Mike Schur was coming up with to explain time differences. There is no sense to it because not even the writers can make sense of what Schur is trying to say. The answer to how time works on The Good Place is it's a comedy show, just go with the jokes.
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Strawman posted:So you're one of those artisanal luxury gay space communism hipsters I'm not a hipster. I was into artisanal luxury gay space communism way before it was cool. Hell, back then, we didn't even call it artisanal. It was just luxury gay space communism.
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oh jay posted:Under that interpretation every human after 1492 through the end of time is in Hell and has been tortured for possibly multiple lifettimes and counting. The way the show is treating time is half-baked nonsense, but the way you want it to be is much much worse. I mean yea, that's the actual real interpretation anyway. Every human from 1492 is being tortured until the end of time. Nobody after that date has gone into the goodplace. The reason I want them to say it that way is because people might think otherwise and find it somehow less bad I guess.
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The fact that there’s a hell were you’ll be tortured for eternity for actions during a limited time will always suck, no point system can salvage that.
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ZZZorcerer posted:The fact that there’s a hell were you’ll be tortured for eternity for actions during a limited time will always suck, no point system can salvage that. Look, you're provided with a book of rules that you need to follow, so really it's your own fault if you end up there. (Also the book has been passed down through thousands of years of sometimes-corrupt humans, and also there's a bunch of books that might be the real one, and there's a bunch of weird and outmoded passages in there that seem really immoral, so good luck with those.)
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Phenotype posted:Look, you're provided with a book of rules that you need to follow, so really it's your own fault if you end up there. (Also the book has been passed down through thousands of years of sometimes-corrupt humans, and also there's a bunch of books that might be the real one, and there's a bunch of weird and outmoded passages in there that seem really immoral, so good luck with those.) this arguement is deconstructed in the first ep
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Taear posted:I mean yea, that's the actual real interpretation anyway. Every human from 1492 is being tortured until the end of time. I think I'm understanding what I'm not aligned on you with. It's your definition of "after" Is it your understanding that humans from the years 1492 to 2018 are going to hell? Or is it that that humans from the years 1492 to X are going to hell, where x is a completely arbitrary time because the present in the real world doesn't exist?
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Strawman posted:So you're one of those artisanal luxury gay space communism hipsters just lol if you dont hand-squeeze your artisanal luxury gay space communism every morning (by strangling fascists)
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Piell posted:My guess is Michael gets to set up a neighborhood as a "temporary Good Place" for people with positive scores (but not good enough to get into the actual Good Place) while the problem is looked into. Everyone gets dumped into Mindy's Medium Place and she's miserable
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Harrow posted:Everyone gets dumped into Mindy's Medium Place and she's miserable Depends on how much she gets to gently caress (it's probably a fuckton)
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