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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

mods change my name to Ignatius J. Reilly

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
thread title feeling extra appropriate today.

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

KozmoNaut posted:

Welp, apparently some parts of the left can agree that something a person said 12 years ago is enough to stain them for life, with absolutely no chance of pardon.



stop defending peolple youi dont know personally moron idiot

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Wheeee posted:

mods change my name to Ignatius J. Reilly

man, just reread it, and it spoke to me way more today than it did in the pre-trump age

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

it's one of those classic books that should be more popular than it is

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Wheeee posted:

it's one of those classic books that should be more popular than it is

it described goons before goons were born

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
I will now advance the daring proposition that if homophobic slurs and bigoted remarks are your go-to exclamations in times of minor stress, then perhaps there's something more concerning about your character than just being a dumbass.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

this person is a goon and KozmoNaut is their username

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Siljmonster posted:

it described goons before goons were born

goons have existed from the morning of the world and goons and shall exist until the last star falls from the night

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
George Fisher has said some okay things in support of certain struggles

but George Fisher has also said homophobic slurs because of stress in the warmup to his liveshow something he does all the time being a musician

Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm fag

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

I don't know the guy but the impression I get of CORPSEGRINDER is that he's kinda dumb and has spent his life doing and saying crazy offensive poo poo for a living and doesn't understand boundaries well

I haven't seen anything that says bigot so much as idiot meathead, given that he apparently apologized and changed his behaviour after it was pointed out. Perhaps not an ally, but probably salvageable

let he who has never used gay as a pejorative before learning better cast the first stone

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



the guy is a legit doofus but i dont think he's a chud bigot

then again he intros the song hosed by a knife and dedicates it to all the women in the audience

just another edgelord

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I will now advance the daring proposition that if homophobic slurs and bigoted remarks are your go-to exclamations in times of minor stress, then perhaps there's something more concerning about your character than just being a dumbass.

i dont think thats what the metal guy did

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

KozmoNaut posted:

I very specifically said that it was a stupid-rear end thing to say. Multiple times. Saying something stupid does not make a person a homophobe or a bigot. It makes them stupid people who should consider their words and their intent better.

A single instance does not a pattern make.

Vintersorg posted:

the guy is a legit doofus [edgelord] but i dont think he's a chud bigot

that's the thing, "participating in gamer culture" (i.e. screaming slurs when agitated) means perpetuating an environment that normalizes bigotry, and gives cover to "real" bigots, regardless of what's in any particular person's heart. doofus edgelords need to be put on the curb too.

I literally can't be bothered to google who Corpsegrinder is or what exactly he did, and I also don't care, he sounds like a tool and defending his behavior is therefore incorrect

EDIT: if he apologized, then good. that means you shouldn't defend the actions he took, and trying to litigate for his true inner self being good is a loving stupid waste of time

LordSaturn has issued a correction as of 19:32 on Jan 14, 2019

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Dave Rubin:
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1083992883064070144

I'm inclined to believe Molyneux here

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

frontman of stupid metal band called CANNIBAL CORPSE with song titles like Hammer Smashed Face and I Cum Blood uses inappropriate language while poo poo-talking for fun several years ago before apologizing when its brought to his attention that those words aren't cool to use anymore

this makes me incredibly angry enough to post multiple screeds denouncing him in a thread dedicated to right wing monsters who sincerely push a harmful ideology because im an idiot with no perspective

also he looks like a talking thumb lol

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Rubin's smart enough to realize that going all-in on "human biodiversity" would get him banned from legit media appearances, which would damage his grift.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



on a less derailey note, it looks like we're gonna get a Peterson v Zizek debate after all

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Epic High Five posted:

on a less derailey note, it looks like we're gonna get a Peterson v Zizek debate after all

:suspense:

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Not really able to watch it but here's the video, hopefully I'm not being tricked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrvhFA3hPWA

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Zizek should clean his room amongst other things

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Peterson will weasel out, he's dumb but he's probably not dumb enough to seriously think he's going to stand toe to toe with Zizek. As soon as he loses confidence that he'll be able to control the discussion to keep it looking favorable to him he'll drop some bullshit about scheduling or fees and bow out

But hopefully I'm wrong and Peterson tilts full speed at everyone's favourite greaseball philosopher

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Zizek vs. Peterson is the closest I'd get to watching a goon dunk on Peterson irl so I'm extremely hype.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Wheeee posted:

Peterson will weasel out, he's dumb but he's probably not dumb enough to seriously think he's going to stand toe to toe with Zizek. As soon as he loses confidence that he'll be able to control the discussion to keep it looking favorable to him he'll drop some bullshit about scheduling or fees and bow out

But hopefully I'm wrong and Peterson tilts full speed at everyone's favourite greaseball philosopher

he's probably banking on going for optics because Zizek is such a shambling weirdo, but I think Peterson underestimated what a strange and odd person he comes off as a lot of the time

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Zizek should absolutely bring up the fact that Peterson believes women are chaos dragons of disorder and yet his entire life is a fragile routine that is managed entirely by his wife and daughter



edit - while messily eating a plate of ribs

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

that's the thing, Peterson only looks and sounds distinguished to the already converted, to everyone else it's going to be a freakshow consisting of a poorly-dressed man with a weird muppet voice getting mad and yelling at a homeless man who appears to be hosed up on uppers with an accent nobody can understand

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Epic High Five posted:

Zizek should absolutely bring up the fact that Peterson believes women are chaos dragons of disorder and yet his entire life is a fragile routine that is managed entirely by his wife and daughter



edit - while messily eating a plate of ribs

Do we really want to encourage his finger licking

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Alan Smithee posted:

Do we really want to encourage his finger licking

right into the lavaliere mic baby

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


They need to tap Werner Herzog as the moderator.



And make sure that Herzog has a gun.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
i refused to watch all peterson debates/interviews/jack off sesh (other than the french interviewer that gave him nightmares and matt dillahunty's) but i will 100% watch the zizek gently caress-machine peterson one

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
I doubt Zizek is going to actually debate in a way that most people think of as debate, but just kind of monologue to himself with complete disregard to anyone else in the room.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Kung Food posted:

I doubt Zizek is going to actually debate in a way that most people think of as debate, but just kind of monologue to himself with complete disregard to anyone else in the room.

i am not 100% convinced that zizek either knows now or will know at the time that he is supposed to be debating someone. he’s just going to do the thing he normally does at that time of day, but in a room inexplicably filled with people

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Peterson's gonna try to bring up the yellow vests as a fundamentally right leaning movement that's agitating against cultural marxism in favor of lower tax advocating conservatives and then poo poo's gonna get funny, and we'll have our Animal v Kermit debate

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol the replies to this

https://twitter.com/Gillette/status/1084850521196900352

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Wheeee posted:

frontman of stupid metal band called CANNIBAL CORPSE with song titles like Hammer Smashed Face and I Cum Blood uses inappropriate language while poo poo-talking for fun several years ago before apologizing when its brought to his attention that those words aren't cool to use anymore

this makes me incredibly angry enough to post multiple screeds denouncing him in a thread dedicated to right wing monsters who sincerely push a harmful ideology because im an idiot with no perspective

also he looks like a talking thumb lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Zmkevry5g

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




lol I wonder how many of these people who reflexively want to defend young men acting horribly as "part of growing up" also hooted and hollared in defense of the police every time a young black boy was killed for walking home at night or sitting in a park with a squirt gun

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Kung Food posted:

I doubt Zizek is going to actually debate in a way that most people think of as debate, but just kind of monologue to himself with complete disregard to anyone else in the room.

Peterson does that too

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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.


lol

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