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Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Hannibal Lecter:
First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?

Clarice Starling:
He kills women...

Hannibal Lecter:
No! That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does, what need does he serve by killing?

Clarice Starling:
Anger, social resentment, sexual frustration...

Hannibal Lecter:
No, he covets. That's his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? Make an effort to answer.

Clarice Starling:
No. We just...

Hannibal Lecter:
No. Precisely. We begin by coveting what we see every day. Don't you feel eyes moving over your body, Clarice? And don't your eyes move over the things you want?

Best comedy movie ever.

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Pvt.Scott posted:

Best comedy movie ever.

For some reason that put an image in my head of Jim Carey as Ace Ventura doing the Hannibal Lector part about eating the guy's liver with fava beans

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

christmas boots posted:

For some reason that put an image in my head of Jim Carey as Ace Ventura doing the Hannibal Lector part about eating the guy's liver with fava beans

I find it unnerving that I still laugh at the poison dart and leg spear scenes in Pet Detective 2

spleen merchant
Jul 1, 2007
Fun Shoe

Leavemywife posted:

Why do people make false confessions to things like that, anyhow? Is it just for their fifteen minutes of fame?

Perhaps it's a case of "I'm clearly lying about this, maybe I lied about the crimes I'm incarcerated for too!".

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

A student of mine suddenly dropped both classes he was in over the weekend. I happened to also get federal jury duty at the end of the month and I was looking to see if anything was scheduled. Oh, his not very common name is listed as one of the cases. Is that him? Let me google his name...

A Daily Beast Article. I will not ruin the surprise

:stonk::stonk::stonk:

Edit: Its mostly unnerving because nobody had a clue. You 100% wouldn't have guessed this dude would have been like this.

Alterian has a new favorite as of 02:44 on Jan 15, 2019

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Yikes. That's one hosed up kid.

Anomalous Blowout
Feb 13, 2006

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It makes no attempt to sound human. It is atoms and stars.

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Alterian posted:

A student of mine suddenly dropped both classes he was in over the weekend. I happened to also get federal jury duty at the end of the month and I was looking to see if anything was scheduled. Oh, his not very common name is listed as one of the cases. Is that him? Let me google his name…

A Daily Beast Article. I will not ruin the surprise

:stonk::stonk::stonk:

Edit: Its mostly unnerving because nobody had a clue. You 100% wouldn’t have guessed this dude would have been like this.



the article posted:

In another post, he allegedly declared that he has “no problem” with “recklessly switching to my extremist side.”

“I’m an Islamic knight not a loving nerd!!” he wrote.

NO DAD, YOU MOW THE LAWN isis edition

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Hannibal Lecter:
First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?

Clarice Starling:
He kills women...

Hannibal Lecter:
No! That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does, what need does he serve by killing?

Clarice Starling:
Anger, social resentment, sexual frustration...

Hannibal Lecter:
No, he covets. That's his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? Make an effort to answer.

Clarice Starling:
No. We just...

Hannibal Lecter:
No. Precisely. We begin by coveting what we see every day. Don't you feel eyes moving over your body, Clarice? And don't your eyes move over the things you want?

That scene is great.

fizzymercury
Aug 18, 2011
That scene is amazing. Posting a transcript of it in relation to a kidnapped child is kinda loving bizzare.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

fizzymercy posted:

That scene is amazing. Posting a transcript of it in relation to a kidnapped child is kinda loving bizzare.

It's literally talking about a kidnapper, what's bizarre about it?

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:



Hannibal Lecter:
No. Precisely. We begin by coveting what we see every day. Don't you feel eyes moving over your body, Clarice? And don't your eyes move over the things you want?

This just reminded me of this, from the Schadenfreude thread

https://twitter.com/serenjty/status...ingawful.com%2F

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer
If you listen to Casefile (which I suspect is everyone), you will have heard this story recently, but if not it starts with a 14 year old boy getting stabbed, and gets rapidly weirder from there.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/02/bachrach200502

It was apparently made into a movie called "Uwantme2killhim?"

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Resident Idiot posted:

If you listen to Casefile (which I suspect is everyone), you will have heard this story recently, but if not it starts with a 14 year old boy getting stabbed, and gets rapidly weirder from there.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/02/bachrach200502

It was apparently made into a movie called "Uwantme2killhim?"

poo poo, I remember reading this article ages ago. It's still just as bizarre to me now as it was then.

It's a really good read.

New Wave Jose
Aug 20, 2008

quote:

explained that being asexually attracted to children does not make you a monster

English is not my first language, but is that a typo? Asexually means "not sexually" right?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



New Wave Jose posted:

English is not my first language, but is that a typo? Asexually means "not sexually" right?

You’re correct.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

fizzymercy posted:

That scene is amazing. Posting a transcript of it in relation to a kidnapped child is kinda loving bizzare.

It's actually a really succinct and, in the case being discussed, accurate description of what seems to happen in these guy's heads. The cultivation and intensification of the fantasy wouldn't be possible without something to "covet" that's right there in front of your face each day. The specifics are always different but when you boil it down to, as Lecter says, first principles, there's always something there in the perpetrator's life that they have laser focused on and built a complex fantasy life around. And if you can figure out what that is, you can often trace it back to them.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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New Wave Jose posted:

English is not my first language, but is that a typo? Asexually means "not sexually" right?
Yeah, idk if the idea is that they meant 'being attracted to children but not acting on it in any way', because as written it's confusing but I assume the wording is taken straight from the document. Obviously the guy wasn't following the advice in the document if he was viewing child porn.

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007

A two-year-old in Spain has fallen down a 360 foot deep, 9 inch wide borehole :stonk:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/14/europe/spain-toddler-well-scli-intl/index.html

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Resident Idiot posted:

If you listen to Casefile (which I suspect is everyone), you will have heard this story recently, but if not it starts with a 14 year old boy getting stabbed, and gets rapidly weirder from there.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/02/bachrach200502

It was apparently made into a movie called "Uwantme2killhim?"
I think I've posted about this one before. It's just so unbelievably crazy.
There's another strange internet murder case you might like if that one piqued your interest.
https://www.wired.com/2007/08/ff-internetlies/
There's a doc about it called TalHotBlond. Courteney Cox of all people directed the Lifetime movie of the same name.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Rondette posted:

This just reminded me of this, from the Schadenfreude thread

https://twitter.com/serenjty/status...ingawful.com%2F
Holy poo poo I'm dying

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Alterian posted:

A student of mine suddenly dropped both classes he was in over the weekend. I happened to also get federal jury duty at the end of the month and I was looking to see if anything was scheduled. Oh, his not very common name is listed as one of the cases. Is that him? Let me google his name...

A Daily Beast Article. I will not ruin the surprise

:stonk::stonk::stonk:

Edit: Its mostly unnerving because nobody had a clue. You 100% wouldn't have guessed this dude would have been like this.

See, while I’m not on his side here, this is why you don’t talk to the cops. “You’re only going to look at those crimes, right?”

Busket Posket
Feb 5, 2010

✨ⓡⓐⓨⓜⓞⓝⓓ✨

Apraxin posted:

I’m guessing most people here are familiar with the Jayme Closs case, but the latest details are just...
https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1084903718447923200
Catch a 10 second glimpse of a child you’ve never met getting on a school bus, know instantly that you now have to dedicate your life to quietly stalking her so you can murder her family and abduct her to keep in your cabin forever :psyduck:.

Between poo poo like this, and that longform article a while back about the guy who would see a woman at the gym or on his daily commute then spend weeks or months stalking them and camping outside their homes, taking pages of detailed notes before eventually breaking in to assault them at the “right” time, existence is terrifying.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Resident Idiot posted:

If you listen to Casefile (which I suspect is everyone), you will have heard this story recently, but if not it starts with a 14 year old boy getting stabbed, and gets rapidly weirder from there.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/02/bachrach200502

It was apparently made into a movie called "Uwantme2killhim?"

I just listened to that episode last week. Holy poo poo. It just gets deeper and deeper.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

I randomly had a video about the murder of Candace Hiltz recommended to me on youtube which led me down a bit of a rabbit hole. I thought the case was interesting, especially considering how it was mishandled by the sheriff's department after one of their deputies was accused of crimes and threatened by Candace.

Some good articles on the case and the deputy in question:
https://soapboxie.com/government/The-shocking-murder-case-of-Candace-Hiltz
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/06/candace-hiltz-colorado-cold-case-murder-evidence-hidden/?clearUserState=true
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/07/05/robert-dodd-fremont-candace-hiltz/
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/05/18/fremont-county-robert-dodd-candace-hiltz/

Tl:dr
Candace was a 17 year old girl living in Colorado with her family and young daughter. Her older brother is a paranoid schizophrenic. When a deputy came to speak to him regarding trespassing complaints, Candace stood up for her brother. She went so far as to tell the deputy that she'd seen him accepting bribes from known drug dealers and that she'd tell his supervisors if he didn't leave her brother alone. A while later, the family dog is tied to a tree and murdered with an axe. Later still, Candace's mom comes home to find her dying from multiple gunshots to the head, wrapped in a quilt and stuffed under a bed. She dies. The deputy she threatened is in charge of her case. He does a poo poo job of conducting the case, not keeping the crime scene locked down or making an effort to even gather all of the evidence. Some of the evidence is taken from the sheriff's office and placed in his personal storage locker until it is found by a man who had purchased the locker. The deputy is charged for mishandling the evidence and is later found to have thrown out evidence on sexual assaults when those tapes and documents are found at the landfill. He's charged separately for that crime.

:allears: I wonder who is the most likely suspect?

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Winklebottom posted:

A two-year-old in Spain has fallen down a 360 foot deep, 9 inch wide borehole :stonk:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/14/europe/spain-toddler-well-scli-intl/index.html



This blips my hoax radar a bit. A two-year old should have a shoulder-to-shoulder width of about 9 inches. Naturally, kids vary a bit, but even a smaller child should be able to stick out their elbows, put their feet against the sides, or inhale and stop their progress easily. Yet they ran a camera 260 feet deep and saw nothing. Also they haven't heard a peep from the hole either.

Not impossible, but close to it in my opinion.

eternity test
Apr 30, 2006
As a father of two, let me tell you 2-year olds are dumb as hell.

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Oct 15, 2012

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JibbaJabberwocky posted:

I randomly had a video about the murder of Candace Hiltz recommended to me on youtube which led me down a bit of a rabbit hole. I thought the case was interesting, especially considering how it was mishandled by the sheriff's department after one of their deputies was accused of crimes and threatened by Candace.

Some good articles on the case and the deputy in question:
https://soapboxie.com/government/The-shocking-murder-case-of-Candace-Hiltz
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/06/candace-hiltz-colorado-cold-case-murder-evidence-hidden/?clearUserState=true
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/07/05/robert-dodd-fremont-candace-hiltz/
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/05/18/fremont-county-robert-dodd-candace-hiltz/

Tl:dr
Candace was a 17 year old girl living in Colorado with her family and young daughter. Her older brother is a paranoid schizophrenic. When a deputy came to speak to him regarding trespassing complaints, Candace stood up for her brother. She went so far as to tell the deputy that she'd seen him accepting bribes from known drug dealers and that she'd tell his supervisors if he didn't leave her brother alone. A while later, the family dog is tied to a tree and murdered with an axe. Later still, Candace's mom comes home to find her dying from multiple gunshots to the head, wrapped in a quilt and stuffed under a bed. She dies. The deputy she threatened is in charge of her case. He does a poo poo job of conducting the case, not keeping the crime scene locked down or making an effort to even gather all of the evidence. Some of the evidence is taken from the sheriff's office and placed in his personal storage locker until it is found by a man who had purchased the locker. The deputy is charged for mishandling the evidence and is later found to have thrown out evidence on sexual assaults when those tapes and documents are found at the landfill. He's charged separately for that crime.

:allears: I wonder who is the most likely suspect?

Did the family have a butler because in my years of experience it often turns out to be the butler

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008

Drunk Nerds posted:

This blips my hoax radar a bit. A two-year old should have a shoulder-to-shoulder width of about 9 inches. Naturally, kids vary a bit, but even a smaller child should be able to stick out their elbows, put their feet against the sides, or inhale and stop their progress easily. Yet they ran a camera 260 feet deep and saw nothing. Also they haven't heard a peep from the hole either.

Not impossible, but close to it in my opinion.

That's some advanced motor skills for a 2 year old.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Seems like if the kid didn’t arrest his fall or otherwise get inadvertently stuck, and it seems he didn’t, he’s dead as gently caress about now?

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


I'm gonna take a wild guess, since we're in the terrible happenings thread, and say that the kid was killed by a relative or something equally horrible and the "fell in a hole" thing is just a cover-up.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

eternity test posted:

As a father of two, let me tell you 2-year olds are dumb as hell.

I have two, too, but since they are American children I can't really consider their size or intelligence to be on-par with the rest of the world.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Baby Jessica fell down an 8 inch hole at 18 months, but I'm no expert on baby sizes so I have no real idea how that compares to a 2 year old since they grow crazy fast.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe
Two year olds are pretty dumb. I forget where, but somewhere on SA is a video of my then-two year old twins banging their heads against a window for 60 straight seconds.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Scathach posted:

I'm gonna take a wild guess, since we're in the terrible happenings thread, and say that the kid was killed by a relative or something equally horrible and the "fell in a hole" thing is just a cover-up.

Just had that happen here with an 8 month old. They staged a car theft to hide that the baby fell off of a bed and they were too scared to call 911 so they let the baby sleep off a head wound.
https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/breaking-king-jay-davilas-father-leads-investigators-to-babys-body

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Busket Posket posted:

Between poo poo like this, and that longform article a while back about the guy who would see a woman at the gym or on his daily commute then spend weeks or months stalking them and camping outside their homes, taking pages of detailed notes before eventually breaking in to assault them at the “right” time, existence is terrifying.

Likely a cold comfort but one of the reasons that kind of thing makes the news is because it's extremely rare. Very few people actually have the capacity to do something that abhorrent.

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Drunk Nerds posted:

Two year olds are pretty dumb. I forget where, but somewhere on SA is a video of my then-two year old twins banging their heads against a window for 60 straight seconds.

When my youngest was 2, one of his favorite things was to bang his head into the washer repeatedly because he liked the noise it made.

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

MightyJoe36 posted:

When my youngest was 2, one of his favorite things was to bang his head into the washer repeatedly because he liked the noise it made.

Congratulations on raising a future President of the United States of America :911:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Drunk Nerds posted:

This blips my hoax radar a bit. A two-year old should have a shoulder-to-shoulder width of about 9 inches. Naturally, kids vary a bit, but even a smaller child should be able to stick out their elbows, put their feet against the sides, or inhale and stop their progress easily. Yet they ran a camera 260 feet deep and saw nothing. Also they haven't heard a peep from the hole either.

Not impossible, but close to it in my opinion.

This is on plenty of major European news networks too.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

cinci zoo sniper posted:

This is on plenty of major European news networks too.

Right, I'm not questioning the news source, but the actual people claiming a two-year-old fell down a hole

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JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

The article I read said the hole was 15" across as the widest point so it may narrow to 9" further down. Apparently they found some candy and a cup the boy was holding while investigating the hole so it does sound like he fell in. It also sounds like the tunnel narrows from a possible cave in and that he may be beyond that point.

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