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Tiger Crazy posted:So is Morocco the sick man of Europe in this timeline Turn off you're monitor
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Jan 15, 2019 19:45
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V. Illych L. posted:how the devil is germany in third place Don't all rebels join you once they enforce demands, or is that just EUIV? If so, it's four late-game uprising's worth
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Jan 15, 2019 19:47
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Christ almighty, has this world never known peace for everybody to just slide back towards war again? And would Al Andalus be in Germany's shoes if you hadn't immediately broken the peace treaty? The old power blocs have totally dissolved and now just everybody hates everybody. Fascist Francia (or Gallic State from one of the screenshots?) still has a massive colonial empire AND it now has designs on the whole of Europe. America is a battleground, god only knows what the rolling coups going on in the former allies of Al Andalus are going to land on in the end, Morocco is decomposing like it's been for the last hundred years, but it still never falls apart, Russia is somehow quiet, and Bohemia slipped into the list of top nations by virtue of having done literally nothing the whole game. At least Asia's pretty calm. Ikasuhito posted:My favorite part of this is easily the Latin Empire sneaking it's way into 16th place. What on earth is the Latin Empire? A new name for Italy? Cherson? That goofy rump state that was split off of Armenia? And come to think of it, with Germany and Al Andalus way out of the picture, I wonder if it'll be Palermo or Itally that'll finally make a grab for Rome.
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Jan 15, 2019 19:57
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Dance Officer posted:This game has an interesting way of portraying communism in the early twentieth century. I mean, worker's rights, safety regulations, schooling, and social subsidies, or even not starving their own people to keep up exports, are all things the Russian and Chinese governments cared little for. some of these you must be given, but schooling and social subsidies were absolutely integral to even stalin's general project literacy increased at a mind-boggling rate under the soviets, it's one of the few unambiguously good things about the bolshevik regime
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Jan 15, 2019 19:58
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:are you doing HOI4 or DH HOI4. Not the best HoI game, but it'll make the conversion a ton quicker, so I won't have to take any more long hiatuses. Tiger Crazy posted:So is Morocco the sick man of Europe in this timeline. Yep, we'll be able to send volunteer divisions to the communist side, depending on how large our army is when it erupts and how interventionist we decide to be. hashashash fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Jan 15, 2019 20:03
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SlothfulCobra posted:
Its this little brown blotch right here 
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Jan 15, 2019 20:05
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SlothfulCobra posted:What on earth is the Latin Empire? A new name for Italy? Cherson? That goofy rump state that was split off of Armenia? I was initially going to go with Gallic State, but changed it to the Frankish Realm at the last second, since that seemed slightly more appropriate for a France that laid claim to the rest of Europe. Latin Empire is that tiny state that's been doing nothing in Slovakia for the whole game, but they've been in Russia's sphere the entire time, going nuts on prestige techs.
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Jan 15, 2019 20:06
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The rankings are all wonky. Surprised Not-Manchuria is significantly higher than China, who'd I expect to be a GP/high SP off military score alone.
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Jan 15, 2019 20:08
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Yeah, China lost a bunch of wars in the dying years of the game, to France and Yerevan and Mongolia. It's looking like there's gonna be a 4-way struggle for dominance in East Asia, between a resurgent Japan and rising Mongolia+Yerevan and failing China.
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Jan 15, 2019 20:13
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Hashim posted:Yeah, China lost a bunch of wars in the dying years of the game, to France and Yerevan and Mongolia. It's looking like there's gonna be a 4-way struggle for dominance in East Asia, between a resurgent Japan and rising Mongolia+Yerevan and failing China. Oof, I need my eyes checked out. Was seeing the Mongoliablob and China as basically the same color. Also I hope you'll be converting to the Cold War v2 mod after you're done with HoI 
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Jan 15, 2019 20:15
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Hashim posted:HOI4. Not the best game, but it'll make the conversion a ton quicker, so I won't have to take any more long hiatuses. there is no question, we're sending half our army
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Jan 15, 2019 20:19
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We should just make our national motto "least among the greatest" at this point
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Jan 15, 2019 20:53
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V. Illych L. posted:some of these you must be given, but schooling and social subsidies were absolutely integral to even stalin's general project Okay, fair enough
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Jan 15, 2019 21:07
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For the record the liberals managed to pass more political reforms than the rest of the left *and* they won their world war.
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Jan 15, 2019 21:11
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What's going on with Polynesian California? Seems like they've been just doing their own thing for the past couple hundred years but we never hear anything about them. Honestly surprised France and Ibriz have left them alone.
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Jan 15, 2019 21:25
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lol@that world cup defeat...
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Jan 15, 2019 21:49
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Eleven Eleven posted:What's going on with Polynesian California? Seems like they've been just doing their own thing for the past couple hundred years but we never hear anything about them. Honestly surprised France and Ibriz have left them alone. I mean, France and Ibriz have kinda had their hands full for a while now, so Waono's just been left to do their own things. They're still a feudal monarchy, very backwards with no political reforms and very few social reforms.
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Jan 15, 2019 21:50
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Jack2142 posted:lol@that world cup defeat... Seven players were garrotted for their humiliating performance. Further, the national team will officially be centralised under party leadership and will be led by our red hero, personally. He’s here to kick rear end and seize the means of production; and hes already seized the means.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:17
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What is that purple splotch stuck in the middle of Italy?
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Jan 15, 2019 22:22
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I'm surprised Russia doesn't score better. They never got invaded in the Great War, and were one of the most powerful nations prior to that. You didn't mention them, so maybe they got all hosed up too. We should probably make a communist/democratic alliance against the fascists come World War III. Since Maz Mazin didn't have a whole bunch of strokes shortly after securing his revolution we at least didn't have to worry about Joseba Stalin taking over in that interwar period. Of course, who knows what the gently caress will happen when Dear Leader pops his clogs.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:25
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QuoProQuid posted:What is that purple splotch stuck in the middle of Italy? Napoli broke away from Italy a little while ago, the world map is a bit outdated though, because they were promptly annexed by Palermo instead.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:32
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I want to know about that OPM which has been bordering us forever. I can't even remember what it's called but its continuing existance enrages me.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:36
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habeasdorkus posted:I'm surprised Russia doesn't score better. They never got invaded in the Great War, and were one of the most powerful nations prior to that. You didn't mention them, so maybe they got all hosed up too. We should probably make a communist/democratic alliance against the fascists come World War III. Given our track record we'll likely get taken over by someone somehow worse than Stalin and manage to gently caress up diplomacy so bad the liberals and fascists ally against us. Given that Russia appears to be approaching USA levels of power whoever they back in round 2 is probably going to win handily barring GM intervention or the AI making GBS threads itself.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:37
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Hashim this remains the best lp you are the best
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Jan 15, 2019 22:37
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Grizzwold posted:Given our track record we'll likely get taken over by someone somehow worse than Stalin and manage to gently caress up diplomacy so bad the liberals and fascists ally against us. Given that Russia appears to be approaching USA levels of power whoever they back in round 2 is probably going to win handily barring GM intervention or the AI making GBS threads itself. lol the backroom maneuvers are going to be hilarious on a death of stalin level
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Jan 15, 2019 22:39
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habeasdorkus posted:I'm surprised Russia doesn't score better. They never got invaded in the Great War, and were one of the most powerful nations prior to that. You didn't mention them, so maybe they got all hosed up too. We should probably make a communist/democratic alliance against the fascists come World War III. Russia probably doesn't have an industry or navy worth mentioning.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:39
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RabidWeasel posted:I want to know about that OPM which has been bordering us forever. I can't even remember what it's called but its continuing existance enrages me. That's Narbuna, which was released as part of the original peace that started Victoria 2 and has never been addressed since.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:48
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:That's Narbuna, which was released as part of the original peace that started Victoria 2 and has never been addressed since. Given what their neighbors are like, the entire population of Narbuna probably breaks out into a cold sweat the moment anyone remembers they exist.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:55
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V. Illych L. posted:lol the backroom maneuvers are going to be hilarious on a death of stalin level I'd watch an alt-reality Iannucci piece titled The Death of Maz Mazin in a heartbeat.
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Jan 15, 2019 23:12
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In the grim darkness of the alternate past, there is only megahellwar
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Jan 15, 2019 23:16
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I love how the Peace of Prague required disarmament from the losers and almost no one did it 
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Jan 15, 2019 23:24
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Ikasuhito posted:Given what their neighbors are like, the entire population of Narbuna probably breaks out into a cold sweat the moment anyone remembers they exist. I like to imagine them as our timeline's Monaco, a creation of complicated outdated treaties that ends up a hotspot for behind-the-scenes negotiation and money laundering because of its peculiar political situation and the fact that nobody adjacent to thinks its worth going into hellwar over, especially since its probably pretty divided ethnicity wise between Frankish, Occitan, Qattaluni and Andalusi folks, and that might mean religious diversity too. It was pretty central to the Tirruni Empire as well.
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Jan 15, 2019 23:24
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Dance Officer posted:Russia probably doesn't have an industry or navy worth mentioning. They have no navy, but they're 4th in the world in industry, and their military is top notch as well. Checking it out now, GP rankings go a bit wonky every time I load up the game. A few different countries seem to swap places and scores, but I guess that's just the mod freaking out though. But anyways, after letting the game run a while longer this is what it looked like at the end of the 1930s, just before China lost their wars and let us rise back into GP status:  For HoI, all of these GPs and a couple secondary powers (and Balkan Fed) will get special focuses tailored for them, but I'm gonna completely scrap the spheres of influence. If the great powers want to rebuild their alliances, they'll have to do it in HoI. hashashash fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Jan 16, 2019 00:11
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LOL, we are so hosed. If we're going down, though, we better nuke Marrakesh.
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Jan 16, 2019 00:22
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Oh neat, the Red Turbans became a republic.
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Jan 16, 2019 00:22
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habeasdorkus posted:LOL, we are so hosed. If we're going down, though, we better nuke Marrakesh. We're definitely gonna have a chance to come out on top, despite the odds. The way I see it, we have 3 different paths before us, with regards to foreign policy. First, the sanest option, we could begin piecing together an international communist alliance, inviting other red nations (Balkans, Ibriz etc) into a global military faction, but we'll obviously have to make a few concessions alone the way. Or we can be ultra-aggressive from the get go, gearing our entire country and industries for total war and pushing our luck on the world stage, probably seizing a bunch of strategic and/or resourceful territories before the line is finally drawn. Or, the last and most radical option would be to pursue the 'Unholy Alliance' of this timeline, allowing us to focus solely on eliminating our enemies to the south and east in the early years of the game. The final choice will come down to the thread, but I can guess which way we're gonna go. hashashash fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Jan 16, 2019 00:28
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Hashim posted:The final choice will come down the threat, but I can guess which way we're gonna go. Francia delenda est forever.
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Jan 16, 2019 00:35
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Hashim posted:We're definitely gonna have a chance to come out on top, despite the odds. repairing relations with our fellow socialist powers following the untimely death of hero of the union mazarin and the reopening of our government to democratic politics???
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Jan 16, 2019 00:36
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I for one definitely trust Francia to not seize the strongest positions in Europe while our backs are turned
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