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You all are getting a no deal brexit and gonna be completely jizzless until you die in darkness.
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Spangly A posted:The DUP are ideologues as much as anything. They named the biggest round number that was actually possible, and got it, because they could. 10bn wouldn't be enough for Labour to pay them off because they're extremely mad about friend Jeremy's love of the 'RA man they get into bed with loving sinn fien (sein fien? boy howdy i'm dispelling that widespread assumption that brits ignore norn ireland politics lol) they're more corrupt than they are ideologues. and if you can't flip em all, pick the what, seven you need and offer a billion loving pounds in each of their constituencies worth of fuel to burn and flags.
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dont be mean to me posted:past tense, checks out was he really worse than thatcher
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Grondoth posted:I'm in the same boat, kinda, although I'd say I have a bad understanding of british politics. But like... nothing she's done has turned out well, and yet she's still there. And unlike over here, there's mechanisms for there to be real consequences for failure, rather than "I donno wait 4 years, tough luck" The problem is, here as in everywhere else, were finding out that the mechanisms only work by convention they aren't actually -anything- unless you are willing to back them up. That would mean the government actually punishing itself which is obviously never going to happen. Rule of law is a lie.
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Jan 16, 2019 20:56
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Vote of No Confidence. Stop capitalising every letter.
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Jan 16, 2019 20:57
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https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1085626152406929408
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CoolCab posted:man they get into bed with loving sinn fien (sein fien? boy howdy i'm dispelling that widespread assumption that brits ignore norn ireland politics lol) they're more corrupt than they are ideologues. and if you can't flip em all, pick the what, seven you need and offer a billion loving pounds in each of their constituencies worth of fuel to burn and flags. power sharing wasn't a choice they made it's a requirement to enter northern irish politics northern ireland doesn't have a government because sinn fein won't sit down with those people
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:was he really worse than thatcher good point
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Jan 16, 2019 21:01
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that gove tirade, too. what a loving tapeworm.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:03
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CoolCab posted:man they get into bed with loving sinn fien (sein fien? boy howdy i'm dispelling that widespread assumption that brits ignore norn ireland politics lol) they're more corrupt than they are ideologues. and if you can't flip em all, pick the what, seven you need and offer a billion loving pounds in each of their constituencies worth of fuel to burn and flags. They haven't been in government with Sinn Fein for the past two years now, and the circumstances are substantially different. The DUP will absolutely never open the door for Corbyn.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:06
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I'm from the land of MAGA, so i'm kinda confused. It seems like the Tories are hosed, with May holding a poo poo deal no one wants and the EU unwilling to negotiate for whatever crazy demands they wanted. Why wouldn't the Tories go and pass off a poo poo situation to Labour, so that they can them blame anything that happens on Corbyn?
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm from the land of MAGA, so i'm kinda confused. It seems like the Tories are hosed, with May holding a poo poo deal no one wants and the EU unwilling to negotiate for whatever crazy demands they wanted. Why wouldn't the Tories go and pass off a poo poo situation to Labour, so that they can them blame anything that happens on Corbyn? Because, theoretically, Labour might cancel article 50 completely.
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silvergoose posted:Because, theoretically, Labour might cancel article 50 completely. I don't see the downside.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:11
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm from the land of MAGA, so i'm kinda confused. It seems like the Tories are hosed, with May holding a poo poo deal no one wants and the EU unwilling to negotiate for whatever crazy demands they wanted. Why wouldn't the Tories go and pass off a poo poo situation to Labour, so that they can them blame anything that happens on Corbyn? If Labour took power, even for a moment, they could make some changes that caused poor people to benefit.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:12
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An insane mind posted:I don't see the downside. Tories want no deal so they can loot the country
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Jan 16, 2019 21:13
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm from the land of MAGA, so i'm kinda confused. It seems like the Tories are hosed, with May holding a poo poo deal no one wants and the EU unwilling to negotiate for whatever crazy demands they wanted. Why wouldn't the Tories go and pass off a poo poo situation to Labour, so that they can them blame anything that happens on Corbyn? Even the most pro-remain Tories probably find the prospect of a Corbyn government worse than Brexit
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also cause they would burn the country to the actual literal ground before letting john mcdonnell running the treasury for some frankly pretty self evident and compelling reasons.Bryter posted:They haven't been in government with Sinn Fein for the past two years now, and the circumstances are substantially different. The DUP will absolutely never open the door for Corbyn. see like, i think there's infinitely more fertile ground there then there is with the tory rebels - fundamentally considerably less of a pragmatic gap even if the ideological one seems insurmountable. the realpolitikian in me thinks "here's an arbitrarily large bag of gold, we'll leave you alone" is viable at some quantity of gold, while "vote yourselves out of power because otherwise the country will fail" has no failure point.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:14
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Saying you have confidence in May the day after handing her a historic defeat lol
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Jan 16, 2019 21:16
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm from the land of MAGA, so i'm kinda confused. It seems like the Tories are hosed, with May holding a poo poo deal no one wants and the EU unwilling to negotiate for whatever crazy demands they wanted. Why wouldn't the Tories go and pass off a poo poo situation to Labour, so that they can them blame anything that happens on Corbyn? Power and Money.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:17
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Spangly A posted:power sharing wasn't a choice they made it's a requirement to enter northern irish politics Sinn Fein are happy to enter power sharing with the DUP, but the first thing they'll do is ask for proper investigation into the massive DUP corruption scandal that collapsed the government in the first place. The DUP are happy to enter power sharing with Sinn Fein as long as they don't mention the massive DUP corruption scandal that collapsed the government. So NI has had mutually assured no-government for 2 years.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:19
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brugroffil posted:Saying you have confidence in May the day after handing her a historic defeat lol Again, it's confidence in "we're in power", which hey, they love being in power.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:23
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Yeah more red lines. Definitely continue to be a stubborn dickhead, it's worked out so far.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:26
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alphabettitouretti posted:Yeah more red lines. Definitely continue to be a stubborn dickhead, it's worked out so far. Ruling out No Deal isn't a Red Line, it's kind of the opposite?
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Jan 16, 2019 21:27
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Brexit has increased the number of people tweeting out the last verse of "Time" by Pink Floyd exponentially, a trend that I foresee continuing till B-Day
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twoday posted:Brexit has increased the number of people tweeting out the last verse of "Time" by Pink Floyd exponentially, a trend that I foresee continuing till B-Day There is no dark side of the moon; it's all dark. (Yes, I know that's not the one.)
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm from the land of MAGA, so i'm kinda confused. It seems like the Tories are hosed, with May holding a poo poo deal no one wants and the EU unwilling to negotiate for whatever crazy demands they wanted. Why wouldn't the Tories go and pass off a poo poo situation to Labour, so that they can them blame anything that happens on Corbyn? He's actually lefr wing though. This isn't like letting Obama or Blair or Miliband in. He's an actual left winger and (if it isn't just hot air) intends to go after their tax dodging and the lovely media barons. Though he's actually very moderate and will probably disappoint the revolutionaries the tories view him as an existential threat. Some of the hysterical chattering classes talk about literally fleeing the country if he wins.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:28
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gently caress the DUP
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Jan 16, 2019 21:31
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Since those are the guys that want no-deal, shouldn't it follow that they have confidence in may's continuing leadership to lead to no deal?
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Jan 16, 2019 21:37
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Captain Splendid posted:gently caress the DUP Sure, but only after you've married them and for procreation only. No gay stuff either, unless the information protected by the UK's last remaining super-injunctions is true.
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Captain Splendid posted:gently caress the DUP gently caress DUP if true
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Fans posted:Ruling out No Deal isn't a Red Line, it's kind of the opposite? Not Jam Man. May. She needs to take no deal off the table and drop her opposition to freedom of movement and also drive a car with David cameron, Rees Mogg, Gove and whoever else will fit right off a loving cliff.
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I think the only chance now is for the opposition parties to go all in on no deal & referendum. A second referendum is worthless without a specific plan to vote against (and prep needs to start NOW if you want one by early may), a new government deal is insanely unlikely if May's not willing to entertain even the possibility of staying in the customs union, and a change in government was the only chance of a substantive extension of article 50. Commit to no deal and call a referendum to withdraw article 50.
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Ika posted:Since those are the guys that want no-deal, shouldn't it follow that they have confidence in may's continuing leadership to lead to no deal? They probably do, and that's part of the problem. Part of the Tories wants a no deal exit.
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Jan 16, 2019 22:22
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Ika posted:Since those are the guys that want no-deal, shouldn't it follow that they have confidence in may's continuing leadership to lead to no deal? That's what this seems to be proving
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Jan 16, 2019 22:26
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Bryter posted:Even the most pro-remain Tories probably find the prospect of a Corbyn government worse than Brexit most centrists do too
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Jan 16, 2019 22:31
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Goon Danton posted:There really isn't any other path now, is there? it's become readily apparent that it's the only option theresa may wants yeah
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Jan 16, 2019 22:33
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Two years ago if someone had told me "The Brits are going to turn their country into a cannibalistic Hellscape weeks before the Americans do" I would have looked them in the eye and called them "Probably wrong". Yet here we are.
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Frankenstyle posted:Two years ago if someone had told me "The Brits are going to turn their country into a cannibalistic Hellscape weeks before the Americans do" I would have looked them in the eye and called them "Probably wrong". america was trying it's hardest to destroy itself and britain just goes and casually beats them to the punch still the king baybee
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Jan 16, 2019 22:37
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But America always makes lovely remakes with bigger budgets.
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i ... worked on destroying my own country for years ... and ... theresa may just...she just did it
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