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Pope Corky the IX posted:I've come to realize that the greatest satires eventually become true. Just look at Dr. Strangelove The Day Today and Brasseye were funnier when they weren't the template for almost every news broadcast.
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My favorite movie is Alien3
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NtotheTC posted:Starship Troopers the film is amazing, I agree if you mean the book though Also a good one: "Have I told you guys how pissed I am that the movie didn't have power armor!?"
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phasmid posted:I liked Starship Troopers because it had dudes with nuke rifles fighting giant monsters from space. It came out just in time for Starcraft, too. But I have to say that as a kid I wasn't sitting there going "Hah, look at this fascist dictatorship that needs a foreign adversary to justify its existence and sends people to die in pointless wars. That asteroid probably just fell out of space and the Klendathians were peaceful! Look at these proles, celebrating these jack-booted xenophobes! Harrumph!" That's exactly what makes it great satire though, if you disregard everything else it still works as a killer bug sci-fi B-movie. But then you watch it again and again over the years as you get older and more mature and understand what it's saying. The best satire is always like that. It's the difference between satire and parody.
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Aleph Null posted:My favorite movie is Alien3 
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Basebf555 posted:That's exactly what makes it great satire though, if you disregard everything else it still works as a killer bug sci-fi B-movie. But then you watch it again and again over the years as you get older and more mature and understand what it's saying. The best satire is always like that. It's the difference between satire and parody. I just wonder if the adults who saw it all recognized he satire or maybe they were just thinking of entertainment. Either way, it's a good movie and that interview where Michael Ironside is dogging on people who don't get the point is pretty hilarious considering he played the biggest hardass in the movie. I'm sure he means the director's cut, which was a lot better than the theatrical release.
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my favourite film is Valentine's Day, it's actually a really deep reflection on the utter meaninglessness of human existence
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When I first watched Starship Troopers I was already seriously pissed at nationalistic jargon coming from overseas (that was after 9/11), so I absolutely hated the first 30 minutes or so because it seemed to me like just such a typical AMERICA, gently caress YEAH movie glorifying war. No, I didn't look at the release year or realized that it's set in uh Brazil iirc? So halfway there on the satire angle. Also, after those 30 min I was like "okay gently caress it at least the action will be cool", and it was.
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I think the most subtle movie is The Kentucky Fried Movie. Everything is super low-key.
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Jan 17, 2019 23:17
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Deep space 9 also pulls off the "Wait, this was before 9/11?" trick. There's another 2-parter that'll be coming true any day now.
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Jan 17, 2019 23:19
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Escobarbarian posted:I reread High Fidelity last year and Oh loving Boy does that not hold up Why not Serious question, I have the book but haven't read it in forever. I recall it as a story of an immature clown who grows a bit, like Scott pilgrim sort of. But, what am I missing other than the fact that the beta band wont change your life
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Btw the best take is, Starship Troopers is just a ripoff of Steakley's "Armor" anyway
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Aphrodite posted:I always say Starship Troopers because you get a good idea of who you're talking to when you do. Starship Troopers 3
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Aphrodite posted:The real scar isn't on his face. the real scar is the friends we made along the way
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I feel like Idiocracy is one of the 'yellow flag' favorite movies, too. There's legitimate things to enjoy in it, but you REALLY need to learn if someone's taking it in a eugenics direction or not.
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DandyLion posted:Also a good one: "Have I told you guys how pissed I am that the movie didn't have power armor!?" I mean it would have been cool as poo poo to watch them blow up those awesome bugs in powered armor. Edit: I read the book in 2007 or 8 and man was I disappointed
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They did that in the second one. You're incorrect.
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phasmid posted:I just wonder if the adults who saw it all recognized he satire or maybe they were just thinking of entertainment. Either way, it's a good movie and that interview where Michael Ironside is dogging on people who don't get the point is pretty hilarious considering he played the biggest hardass in the movie. The director commentary on the disc is amazing because Verhoeven just seems continuously confused that nobody understood it was satire.
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Beachcomber posted:It was easy when we were kids, but these days the idea that you can have a single favourite movie kind of weirds me out. Holy poo poo, fuckin' same 
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Ghostbusters is one of those movies that I didn't watch until I was in my early 20s and can't understand the hype for, apart from the theme tune which owns. It's weird that it's so enduring considering the critical failure of everything related that's ever succeeded it
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I think it's worth drawing a distinction between someone's favourite movie, and the movie they think is the best. My favourite movie is Some Like It Hot but I don't think it's the best movie I ever saw. It's just the one I love most.
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HopperUK posted:I think it's worth drawing a distinction between someone's favourite movie, and the movie they think is the best. My favourite movie is Some Like It Hot but I don't think it's the best movie I ever saw. It's just the one I love most. Yeah, this right here. Also, bell jar, look into the archived Ghostbusters thread in CD; the OP written by echoplex was extremely detailed about their praise for the film, and hits it right on the nose as to why it was such a good movie, and likely the top horror comedy forever. That post was like a thesis.
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Jan 18, 2019 01:29
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Adult woman who loves The Nightmare Before Christmas. Woop woop pull up.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yeah, this right here. Do you have a link to this? Sounds good
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drat it people I said "Armor" by Steakley... ugh sigh nobody reads lovely sci fi anymore:)
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bell jar posted:Do you have a link to this? Sounds good Absolutely, here you go: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3184282&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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Disgusting Coward posted:Adult woman who loves The Nightmare Before Christmas. Woop woop pull up. Ooof, yes. This one is absolutely true.
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Ravenfood posted:The director commentary on the disc is amazing because Verhoeven just seems continuously confused that nobody understood it was satire. It's really weird given how Robocop was praised for its satire, but people assumed the same director was making straight up Nazi propaganda with his next sci-fi action film.
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Slippery posted:drat it people I said "Armor" by Steakley... ugh sigh nobody reads lovely sci fi anymore:) We got the joke, it just wasn't laugh in a post worthy. Now if you had recommend people read Armor as the book that Starship Troopers is actually based on...
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Slippery posted:drat it people I said "Armor" by Steakley... ugh sigh nobody reads lovely sci fi anymore:) I liked Armor, for some kinda throwaway sci fi about the horrors of war and the incompetence of the military. Isn't someone making it into a tv series or movie?
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Sunswipe posted:It's really weird given how Robocop was praised for its satire, but people assumed the same director was making straight up Nazi propaganda with his next sci-fi action film.
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Aleph Null posted:My favorite movie is Alien3 This, but Alien 4. At least the first 3/4th of it. Then things go very wrong. Also I haven’t seen it since it came out so it’s probably not that good. Starship Troopers may not be the best movie, but it’s the funnest. Anyone know if the HD (or 4K if they have it) is worth a purchase if you already have the DVD? Do the special effects hold up in high definition?
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Pilchenstein posted:His next sci-fi action film was Total Recall. drat it, why did I think Total Recall came before Robocop?
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Cleretic posted:I feel like Idiocracy is one of the 'yellow flag' favorite movies, too. There's legitimate things to enjoy in it, but you REALLY need to learn if someone's taking it in a eugenics direction or not. I read The Marching Morons by Cyril Kornbluth when I was very young, so when Idiocracy came out, I was kind of, I dunno, over it? Like, both are extremely similar in their premise and settings. Major differences: in Morons, there are a very few very intelligent people left, secretly running the world but falling farther and farther behind. They enlist the regular schlub from the past into helping them solve the too-many-idiots problem. Schlub's solution is to launch everyone they can into the sun, selling it to his victims as a free trip to sunny Venus. So they launch most of the earth's population into the sun, and the story ends with the smart people grabbing the regular schlub and launching him into the sun as well, because what kind of monster thinks of a plan like "Launch the earth's population into the sun"?
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bell jar posted:Ghostbusters is one of those movies that I didn't watch until I was in my early 20s and can't understand the hype for, apart from the theme tune which owns. It's weird that it's so enduring considering the critical failure of everything related that's ever succeeded it One thing you're missing if you didn't grow up during those years is that the Real Ghostbusters cartoon was beloved and had a lot to do with people forming those strong nostalgia connections with the franchise and the characters.
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Phy posted:I read The Marching Morons by Cyril Kornbluth when I was very young, so when Idiocracy came out, I was kind of, I dunno, over it? Like, both are extremely similar in their premise and settings. Holy poo poo, I need to read this.
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Basebf555 posted:One thing you're missing if you didn't grow up during those years is that the Real Ghostbusters cartoon was beloved and had a lot to do with people forming those strong nostalgia connections with the franchise and the characters. The voice cast for that show was stacked, Maurice LaMarche, Lorenzo Music, Frank Welker, and Arcenio Hall.
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Disgusting Coward posted:Adult woman who loves The Nightmare Before Christmas. Woop woop pull up. What’s wrong with TNBC? Is it the Hot topic connection?
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Joey Freshwater posted:What’s wrong with TNBC? Is it the Hot topic connection? Yeah I don't get it either. TNBC is a great movie. It's not, like, my favorite by any means, but a solid "watch yearly at least once anywhere between Halloween and Christmas."
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I've kinda lost all coherence in weighing in on adults liking tNBC after being forced to watch it repeatedly over Christmas by our toddler who demanded to see "the pumpkin movie". That said i did finally watch emmet otters jug band christmas at the same time and that movie was awesome so it kinda made up for it.
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