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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

FuturePastNow posted:

They broke something about (some? all?) lower-tier ships on lower-level characters in the last update.

Somehow I'm not surprised core game code is breaking down.

10 years of spaghetti code. An MMO Gordion Knot if you will.

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jan 16, 2019

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Geekboy posted:

I have some ... super rare? level Phoenix Prize Packs. I always exchange the first and second tier for universal upgrades, but at this level I can get the Zephram Cochran’s shotgun and some other goodies. How should I spend these?

The games numbers have never made any drat sense, so it seems easier to just ask the experts.

The shotgun is fun, cool, and good. I think you're only limited to having one per account, though.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

DancingShade posted:

Somehow I'm not surprised core game code is breaking down.

10 years of spaghetti code. An MMO Gordion Knot if you will.

As of the last patch any character with the "Goatee" facial hair is currently invisible.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I'm pretty sure the T2-T4 ships are all broken because they've been poking at the code to make level-scaling ships work.

You'll be able to use the new Terran dreadnought at level 1 if you want to waste EC to be 50x larger than plebs in Mirandas.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

Geekboy posted:

I have some ... super rare? level Phoenix Prize Packs. I always exchange the first and second tier for universal upgrades, but at this level I can get the Zephram Cochran’s shotgun and some other goodies. How should I spend these?

The games numbers have never made any drat sense, so it seems easier to just ask the experts.

this is a neat list of all the prizes and their usability: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/816zz5/the_phoenix_prize_pack_returns/dv131ue/

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

FuturePastNow posted:

I'm pretty sure the T2-T4 ships are all broken because they've been poking at the code to make level-scaling ships work.

You'll be able to use the new Terran dreadnought at level 1 if you want to waste EC to be 50x larger than plebs in Mirandas.

Well, guess that alt's stalled out. The Exeter at tier 2 was working fine, but no I am not flying a ship with half its consoles and a third of its weapon slots not working.

Geekboy
Aug 21, 2005

Now that's what I call a geekMAN!

This is perfect, thanks. Likely to take that Crystalline Torpedo along with the shotgun since I have some nicely upgraded Antiproton dual heavy cannons and have settled into escorts as my favorite ships.

The pilot escort pack ... oh, man.

Lacermonia
May 15, 2002

Cythereal posted:

Well, guess that alt's stalled out. The Exeter at tier 2 was working fine, but no I am not flying a ship with half its consoles and a third of its weapon slots not working.

It really feels like the person programming this game is someone just out of high school working part-time

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


It's a game hastily built over a few months atop the frame of a game from a different genre that's since had most of its systems replaced piecemeal by staff who've since moved on. It's a miracle that it runs at all, really.

greasythepirate
Aug 13, 2016

Lagomorphic posted:

As of the last patch any character with the "Goatee" facial hair is currently invisible.

They are supposedly fixing it in the new patch. That said, I hope the fix requires you to actually edit the saved costume, because I have one of my costumes saved as invisible and plan to never edit it if it stays that way.

Syrophenikan
Aug 17, 2010
Fun Shoe

Potential BFF posted:

You will need to request wiki access in this thread by stating the username you have registered on the wiki.

I am requesting access to said wiki, my username on the wiki is the same here, Syrophenikan

Also requesting fleet invite. I think my in game handle is...

Syro@dotnetryan

Or it's...

Syro Krauss@dotnetryan

The game doesn't do a great job of telling me which one to use...

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

greasythepirate posted:

They are supposedly fixing it in the new patch. That said, I hope the fix requires you to actually edit the saved costume, because I have one of my costumes saved as invisible and plan to never edit it if it stays that way.

Pretty sure that's how it works. Last I checked (admittedly some time ago) I still have a Reman bridge officer missing his pants on my Romulan expansion character.

Did you know in STO male underwear is completely flat?

I'll let this old screencap speak for itself:

Dalris Othaine
Oct 14, 2013

I think, therefore I am inevitable.


:thunk:

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
The Anniversary event giveaway has begun. Right now it's just a uniform hardly anyone will probably ever use, but past anniversary giveaways have included stuff up to z-store ships, so anyone who's interested in the game may want to grab the free goodies.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Cythereal posted:

The Anniversary event giveaway has begun. Right now it's just a uniform hardly anyone will probably ever use, but past anniversary giveaways have included stuff up to z-store ships, so anyone who's interested in the game may want to grab the free goodies.

Where are you seeing it? ALl I saw in the promotions tab was a few dil mining things. Couldn't find it in the uniforms.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Each promotional whatsit is only available for 24 hours, then a new whatsit rotates in etc until the giveaway event finishes.

Not sure when it ticks over or when this one first started. Probably tied to daily reset but could be wrong about that.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


giveaway begins (and previous one ends) at 10 AM Pacific

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
Uniform giveaway ended around noonish EST today. It was the JemHadar Tactilol Uniform so it's not a huge loss if you missed it. You may even have got it in already one of the bundles if you care about JemHadar poo poo at all anyways.

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
What is it with the Kobe Bryant Maru wanting to lemming itself into swarms of enemies and getting squashed like a bug in less than 10 seconds sometimes ? I did a timed run and it was dead in 2 waves, which does not meet the minimum to get the voucher thingy. From now on I'm bringing my Fed carrier in a healspam config and setting the Peregrines on guard mode.

Kovalian
Dec 28, 2013
So I just got back in after playing for a bit at launch. Ground combat is still about as unenjoyable as I remember, but the space combat will probably keep me interested for a bit.

Any chance I can get an invite to Dental? Kovalian@Kovalian

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Kovalian posted:

So I just got back in after playing for a bit at launch. Ground combat is still about as unenjoyable as I remember, but the space combat will probably keep me interested for a bit.

Any chance I can get an invite to Dental? Kovalian@Kovalian

Press B to make ground combat go from a WoW clone to a Mass Effect clone.

Better still, keep it in RPG mode and enable autofire on your weapon. Click once and forget for the rest of the mission.

Kovalian
Dec 28, 2013

Coq au Nandos posted:

Better still, keep it in RPG mode and enable autofire on your weapon. Click once and forget for the rest of the mission.

This is actually amazing. Thanks!

fakemirage
Nov 6, 2012

Can't see the haters.

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11070723-anniversary-giveaways-t5-ships%21
Three t5 ships are given away in the C-store until January 21st at 10AM PT. Your character usually needs to be aligned with the faction and leveled up to the appropriate level to claim the free T5 ships from the Ships section of the C-store.

Federation carrier
KDF carrier
Romulan... carrier?

fakemirage fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 19, 2019

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


What the gently caress did they do to the koboyashi maru, anyway? I'm not sure what's causing it but it just seems to explode instantly to... something. I don't mind getting abrupt ends considering the theme of the queue, but it's a bit less fun when it pops like a balloon on wave two and you eat the queue cooldown without getting the token reward. :geno:

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Warp core detonations?

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Tunicate posted:

Warp core detonations?

That or missed bio-neural warheads.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




fakemirage posted:


https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11070723-anniversary-giveaways-t5-ships%21
Three t5 ships are given away in the C-store until January 21st at 10AM PT. Your character usually needs to be aligned with the faction and leveled up to the appropriate level to claim the free T5 ships from the Ships section of the C-store.

Federation carrier
KDF carrier
Romulan... carrier?

Any of those any good or are they just Admiralty fodder?

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


On the retry for today's token I got dinged by a 150k crit from a non-high-yield plasma torpedo from a random enemy Ha'apax warbird, so that's probably it. :eyepop:

Technowolf posted:

Any of those any good or are they just Admiralty fodder?
The caitian boat is admiralty fodder, but the kar'fi is still pretty fun to fly and unique looking, and the ar'kif is probably the best of the T5 escort-style warbirds.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

I don't know why, but in ground combat my autofire just.... stops. It is random but most frequently happens when I tab target to a new unit. Anyone else had this?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Peachfart posted:

I don't know why, but in ground combat my autofire just.... stops. It is random but most frequently happens when I tab target to a new unit. Anyone else had this?

Check your autofire settings. You want the one that continues forever until combat ends, not the one that stops after the target dies.

The former is more convenient but the price is your weapon activation cycles will interfere with your hotkey activation to an extent.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Asimo posted:

On the retry for today's token I got dinged by a 150k crit from a non-high-yield plasma torpedo from a random enemy Ha'apax warbird, so that's probably it. :eyepop:
Yeah, something screwy happened with mob torpedos when they increased the max level from 60 to 65. I've been pretty regularly seeing 100k+ torpedo hits, which is fun when the ship fired a spread. There's also some people on reddit complaining that they can't pull threat off the Maru even with full tanking setups. And I know that tanking in STO is a joke, but if a bunch of people shooting and running +threat can't pull aggro from an NPC with no weapons, there's a decent chance that cryptic screwed something up under the hood again.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

DancingShade posted:

Check your autofire settings. You want the one that continues forever until combat ends, not the one that stops after the target dies.

The former is more convenient but the price is your weapon activation cycles will interfere with your hotkey activation to an extent.

As an added bonus, this will make your character the most bloodthirsty, trigger happy captain in the galaxy. If you see an enemy, you will shoot them until they die. Forever.

g0del posted:

Yeah, something screwy happened with mob torpedos when they increased the max level from 60 to 65. I've been pretty regularly seeing 100k+ torpedo hits, which is fun when the ship fired a spread. There's also some people on reddit complaining that they can't pull threat off the Maru even with full tanking setups. And I know that tanking in STO is a joke, but if a bunch of people shooting and running +threat can't pull aggro from an NPC with no weapons, there's a decent chance that cryptic screwed something up under the hood again.

Tanking is extremely dumb and shouldn’t be a thing but you’re right, if people dedicating their entire builds to chasing that dragon can’t pull threat, poo poo is broken.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Probably nothing to fix.

Imagine a pubbie using a "tanking build" (in their mind) with weapons power set to 25 wondering why someone doing ten or twenty times their damage manages to pull threat.

I've seen players lose threat to my hanger pets. They're running poo poo builds.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

DancingShade posted:

Probably nothing to fix.

Imagine a pubbie using a "tanking build" (in their mind) with weapons power set to 25 wondering why someone doing ten or twenty times their damage manages to pull threat.

I've seen players lose threat to my hanger pets. They're running poo poo builds.
That's the normal reason that tanking doesn't work in STO. The complaint on reddit is that their tanking builds can't pull threat away from the Kobayashi Maru, which shouldn't be putting out any damage at all.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

g0del posted:

That's the normal reason that tanking doesn't work in STO. The complaint on reddit is that their tanking builds can't pull threat away from the Kobayashi Maru, which shouldn't be putting out any damage at all.

I once read a complaint thread by a player upset their "support build" was kicked and had a 2 hour queue suspension (or something, details hazy now) from STFs because they didn't do enough damage for the game to consider them non-AFK.

Their excuse was they were debuffing/buffing other players and that was totally a legit way to play, for reals. Presumably that didn't include firing weapons, or their output was so low the game didn't care. I reckon they weren't firing because that would potentially make NPCs mad and badmans would then blow up their precious internet space ship.

I miss the good old days of STFs when you couldn't get kicked for anything, quitting put people on cool down and you could just high impulse 500km out of bounds by looking for cracks in level geometry until you were flying a blue void. A lot of people incorrectly thought it was a sync issue.

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jan 21, 2019

Kovalian
Dec 28, 2013

Kovalian posted:

Any chance I can get an invite to Dental? Kovalian@Kovalian

Could I get the invite (re-)sent? I feel like I might've closed or declined it among the random Earth Spacedock invite spam.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
So the event ship is another level-scaler going up to tier 6, but this one account bound and usable by all factions.

It's a lot like the Lukari ships, a science vessel but with escort-grade maneuverability, can equip dual cannons, and has raider flanking. Lots of universal seats, including an intel seat.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Well, get ready to see it flown by every disco character.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
That vulcan ship looks like trash. Fitting considering STD.

Good admiralty stats though and if anyone doesn't have something better to fly its definitely better than nothing.

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Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



How is the game these days? I haven't played since the Romulan's were introduced. Thinking of giving it a go again since I have nothing else to play right now. How do the different races hold up, as well as the different specs. I like a dumb-rear end made a Romulan-Fed as an engineer, and also made another federation engineer. I was thinking of maybe leveling a science officer, since they are kind of like buffer/ debuffers and healers aren't they?

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