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silence_kit posted:How does pricing on non-recent model video cards work? Do prices on new cards ever drop, or are they like Intel computer chips in that they never lower price? That's gonna take a very long time, prices for used GPUs that are not utterly obsolete yet remain stubbornly inflated for years. We're just starting to see half decent, working 970 for <100$ now. Many on eBay still try to get ~130$ 
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I'm trying to trace down some jerkyness on my 580. What's the current hotness for logging frametimes as opposed to FPS? I want to see what my stalls look like. FWIW I can basically guarantee that it's due to being in a VM, but if I can see the stalls I can test fixes.
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Harik posted:I'm trying to trace down some jerkyness on my 580. What's the current hotness for logging frametimes as opposed to FPS? I want to see what my stalls look like. MSI afterburner and rivatuner (they run together) can display and log frametimes here's an example of me logging Monster Hunter World's abysmal frametimes;  Zedsdeadbaby fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Jan 18, 2019 |
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Jan 18, 2019 12:25
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A second RTX game is available and it's... Quake 2 
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Good guy developer realizing people who buy high-end hardware really just want to play old games.
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repiv posted:A second RTX game is available and it's... Quake 2 Not just RTX, but entirely raytraced 
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repiv posted:A second RTX game is available and it's... Quake 2 welp, i guess I'm buying RTX now
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Jan 18, 2019 15:34
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DOOM RTX WHEN? (Classic that is, not NuDoom).
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repiv posted:A second RTX game is available and it's... Quake 2 Not going to lie, that actually makes me want a RTX card a lot more than I did.
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repiv posted:A second RTX game is available and it's... Quake 2 This actually looks really good e: K8.0 posted:
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Jan 18, 2019 16:26
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Somewhere the Nvidia marketing director is shaking his head in disbelief
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Statutory Ape posted:Somewhere the
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Bah, call me when they fully raytrace Duke Nukem 3D, and I might even buy a loving 2080Ti to play it. 
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I guess I'm replaying Quake II this weekend.
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Are SLI/Crossfire still iffy on actual performance gains vs issues they have? Zotac has 1080 Amp cards up for $360 and I'm considering grabbing a second one for the hell of it. Getting the inside of my PC hotter than the surface of the sun sounds like fun too!
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fknlo posted:Are SLI/Crossfire still iffy on actual performance gains vs issues they have? Zotac has 1080 Amp cards up for $360 and I'm considering grabbing a second one for the hell of it. Getting the inside of my PC hotter than the surface of the sun sounds like fun too! Not worth it at all these days. That being said it's your money and if you want to tinker with something new and janky go for it 
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It's increasingly incompatible with newer games, has many of the same problems as always, but if it works with the game(s) you're targeting it can almost double the performance.
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fknlo posted:Are SLI/Crossfire still iffy on actual performance gains vs issues they have? Zotac has 1080 Amp cards up for $360 and I'm considering grabbing a second one for the hell of it. Getting the inside of my PC hotter than the surface of the sun sounds like fun too! In most games you'd be better off spending roughly the same amount on a 2080. There are a few titles where SLI 1080s might perform better, but that's not going to be the norm. The only situations where SLI really makes sense are if you're building a top-end system that you want to go beyond the capabilities of a single top-end GPU or if you get a great deal on a second one of whatever GPU you already have later in its life. Even then there are many asterisks to the performance and some tradeoffs in the games that do support it.
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Thanks for the replies, I'm not gonna do it. I should probably stop buying dumb poo poo until the shutdown is over anyway.
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Stanley Pain posted:DOOM RTX WHEN? (Classic that is, not NuDoom). 2010! (cursory googling doesn’t turn up any current DXR/RTX projects, though)
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Ok I also want an RTX more now with that Quake 2 build. I remember that was posted a while back and it worked with a bit of a limit on software Ray Tracing or something so it was cool, but not really that great. Now with RTX support, it looks way better and projects like this that can make old games look almost new again are going to be amazing. Someone do Battlezone 1/2 now. 
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Statutory Ape posted:Somewhere the Nvidia marketing director is shaking his head in disbelief ... but it’s Quake II.
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As someone about a week away from having an entirely new build with a 2070 in it, this news just made my day 
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gently caress I got the notification from EVGA that the hybrid coolers for the 2080ti's were in stock but I had to walk to computer and log in to correct my address in my EVGA profile and they sold out 
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Is there a comparison of 2080 Tis anywhere? I know I don't want a blower but it's hard to choose from the wide variety there is. I just know I don't want Gigabyte since they're ghosting me after I provided them evidence that my dead 980 Ti was in fact in warranty. All the benchmarks I've found are "specific custom 2080 Ti X vs the reference 2080 Ti vs a bunch of other random non-2080 Ti cards"
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VelociBacon posted:gently caress I got the notification from EVGA that the hybrid coolers for the 2080ti's were in stock but I had to walk to computer and log in to correct my address in my EVGA profile and they sold out I'd be way more enthusiastic about getting one if their warranty was longer than *one year*.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I'd be way more enthusiastic about getting one if their warranty was longer than *one year*. I'm mostly enthusiastic because the 980ti Hybrid I had was so good from a cooling perspective.
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aaaaaaaa this design still irks me. The whole point of cooling is to get heat away from the silicon, but I don't think dumping it right back onto the PCB is far away enough! Also, this concept is definitely worse with respect to keeping the inside of a closed case from getting warm, which most AIOs can do if placed properly with fans pointed outwards.
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If you're transporting heat to another location within the same rigid assembly anyway, what is the point of using a waterblock and radiator instead of just some fat heatpipes?
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Enos Cabell posted:Marketing no RGBs -1/10 would not recommend
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Palladium posted:no RGBs -1/10 would not recommend Honestly, that's the most baffling aspect of it. They drop a watercooler on card and don't light it up like a christmas tree??
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So with this Doom II RTX build, does that mean it will be possible to do RTX versions of any game based on that engine?
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Enos Cabell posted:So with this Doom II RTX build, does that mean it will be possible to do RTX versions of any game based on that engine? You mean Quake 2 right? BTW not that the game was optimized by a team or anything but it barely ran at 60fps in 1440p with a 2080ti.
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K8.0 posted:Good guy developer realizing people who buy high-end hardware really just want to play old games.
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VelociBacon posted:You mean Quake 2 right? BTW not that the game was optimized by a team or anything but it barely ran at 60fps in 1440p with a 2080ti. Doh, yeah Quake 2. And I didn't realize it ran that poorly, dang. Oh well, will be fun to run through those in a few years on a 21xx
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Enos Cabell posted:Doh, yeah Quake 2. And I didn't realize it ran that poorly, dang. Oh well, will be fun to run through those in a few years on a 21xx A lot of the reason it ran poorly is just that it was one PhD student changing the code to implement raytracing so it didn't get the optimization modern games get. I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make to have it fully optimized, probably would at least double the framerate to be honest because I get around 80-120fps in BF5 with raytracing on with the 2080ti and that's got a lot more going on for the GPU.
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VelociBacon posted:A lot of the reason it ran poorly is just that it was one PhD student changing the code to implement raytracing so it didn't get the optimization modern games get. I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make to have it fully optimized, probably would at least double the framerate to be honest because I get around 80-120fps in BF5 with raytracing on with the 2080ti and that's got a lot more going on for the GPU. In terms of raytracing the Q2 port has a lot more going on, BF5 uses standard rasterization/precalc tricks for most lighting then layers RT reflections on top whereas Q2 is raytracing all lighting across the board so everything is dynamic and accurate. Full raytracing isn't going to be practical any time soon (or ever) but it's a cool proof of concept.
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