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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

euphronius posted:

Rip the womprats

Massacred offscreen by a an out of control boy Jedi.

Hey now!



He wasn't a Jedi yet.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Grendels Dad posted:

He wasn't a Jedi yet.

But the Force was with him.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I know he wasn’t yet technically a Jedi I was just using it as shorthand for “murderous force mutant”

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Sometimes I feel ya'll are in an unspoken competition to see who can put up the weirdest interpretation of Star Wars

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

Going into a dark hole to meet your dad and killing him as an expression of your own death drive ... pfft what a lame rear end cornball ... what a buffoon ... what an rear end

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

McCloud posted:

Sometimes I feel ya'll are in an unspoken competition to see who can put up the weirdest interpretation of Star Wars

Luke IS the wampa

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

J_RBG posted:

Going into a dark hole to meet your dad and killing him as an expression of your own death drive ... pfft what a lame rear end cornball ... what a buffoon ... what an rear end

way more interesting than going into a dark hole and monologuing

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

McCloud posted:

Sometimes I feel ya'll are in an unspoken competition to see who can put up the weirdest interpretation of Star Wars

Unspoken? My dude, they can't shut up about it.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN
This may be tough to imagine nowadays, but Star Wars used to be extremely loving weird.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

McCloud posted:

Sometimes I feel ya'll are in an unspoken competition to see who can put up the weirdest interpretation of Star Wars

Weird, perhaps, but 100% correct.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Grendels Dad posted:

I wonder if Yoda had to face a tiny Vader in that cave, whose helmet exploded and showed a tiny Yoda head after Yoda hacked him to pieces.


Like, maybe it's always just Vader in the cave. Sheev goes in there, sees Vader. Kit Fisto enters the cave, Vader. Dexter Jettster, Vader. Vader faces Vader with a tiny Vader inside.

Vader.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

McCloud posted:

Sometimes I feel ya'll are in an unspoken competition to see who can put up the weirdest interpretation of Star Wars

The Special Editions of the Original Trilogy are the true Star Wars

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

This may be tough to imagine nowadays, but Star Wars used to be extremely loving weird.

Sure, but it's weird enough without assuming Luke is hopped up on goofballs


Wheat Loaf posted:

Weird, perhaps, but 100% correct.

As the kids say, that ain't it, chief

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

McCloud posted:

Sure, but it's weird enough without assuming Luke is hopped up on goofballs

The little shaman’s bad-tasting swamp soup is 100% undeniably a hallucinogen.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Drugs can simulate some of the aspects of mystical experiences, and, especially in the context of the film's production, would have been understood as something that could be used ritualistically to make them more intense.

Traditionally, the Oracle of Delphi inhabited a cave full of cave gas, and other priests interpreted her descriptions of her visions on behalf of supplicants. Luke, on the other hand, is functioning as his own Pythia and his own prophētēs. A materialist interpretation would definitely chalk it up to cave gas and swamp food, however.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

McCloud posted:

Sure, but it's weird enough without assuming Luke is hopped up on goofballs


As the kids say, that ain't it, chief

Here, maybe my crappy fan edit with bad techno music will convince you

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

If getting high in the woods and asking a frog for advice on how to talk to your dad is the path to enlightenment, who amongst us isn't a Jedi?

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Some of us only got drunk in the woods

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Just watched Solo. It was a good film but I found a stupid plot hole and I'm real mad about it.

Bad boss guy doesn't want to do the job because he's got a deal with the target, but is persuaded by the fact that Han et al don't have a deal and aren't known associates. So he agrees, and SENDS ALONG SOMEONE BRANDED AS HIS EMPLOYEE. Real smart move there, chief.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

McCloud posted:

As the kids say, that ain't it, chief

I must be right because I am a genius.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Fart City posted:

If getting high in the woods and asking a frog for advice on how to talk to your dad is the path to enlightenment, who amongst us isn't a Jedi?

Me.


I hope my son doesn't get too high out there.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I wonder if Luke found Yoda's porn when he was out wandering in the woods.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Ultimately, most people want to know what became of yaddle in the new canon, and think about it daily

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Wheat Loaf posted:

I wonder if Luke found Yoda's porn when he was out wandering in the woods.

(Runs up, breathing heavily)

“GO NEAR THE FAR STUMP DID YOU?”

“...No?”

(Lays down on ground)

“God thank.”

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Bongo Bill posted:

Drugs can simulate some of the aspects of mystical experiences, and, especially in the context of the film's production, would have been understood as something that could be used ritualistically to make them more intense.

Traditionally, the Oracle of Delphi inhabited a cave full of cave gas, and other priests interpreted her descriptions of her visions on behalf of supplicants. Luke, on the other hand, is functioning as his own Pythia and his own prophētēs. A materialist interpretation would definitely chalk it up to cave gas and swamp food, however.

Yeah, the Oracle was just high and not interpreting the gods, so you agree that Luke was just high and interpreting his drug dreams?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

mandatory lesbian posted:

Yeah, the Oracle was just high and not interpreting the gods, so you agree that Luke was just high and interpreting his drug dreams?

He's saying that God is found in the act of reading.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



Getting high off hallucinogens and seeing personal visions and seeing received visions from a mystical power are not mutually exclusive, especially in fiction.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Fart City posted:

(Runs up, breathing heavily)

“GO NEAR THE FAR STUMP DID YOU?”

“...No?”

(Lays down on ground)

“God thank.”

Do you think he had time to bring it with before he went into exile or is Ben sending it to him on dagobah on the DL?

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Fart City posted:

(Runs up, breathing heavily)

“GO NEAR THE FAR STUMP DID YOU?”

“...No?”

(Lays down on ground)

“God thank.”

A good chuckle this gave me.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

banned from Starbucks posted:

Do you think he had time to bring it with before he went into exile or is Ben sending it to him on dagobah on the DL?

He got it from Chewbacca's dad (who is canonically watching porno in the Star Wars Holiday Special).

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

mandatory lesbian posted:

Yeah, the Oracle was just high and not interpreting the gods, so you agree that Luke was just high and interpreting his drug dreams?

In fiction, it is interpretation of divine visions.

Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

McCloud posted:

Sometimes I feel ya'll are in an unspoken competition to see who can put up the weirdest interpretation of Star Wars

I just think TLJ is a pile of poo poo on par with the prequels.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Slutitution posted:

I just think TLJ is a pile of poo poo on par with the prequels.

I would agree TLJ is on par with the prequels...but that just makes it a great film.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

jivjov posted:

I would agree TLJ is on par with the prequels...but that just makes it a great film.

Agreed, friend

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Slutitution posted:

I just think TLJ is a pile of poo poo on par with the prequels.

No, its bad, but its beautiful and everyone is really good at acting and Adam Driver just owns the movie. The only pleasure in the prequels is McGregor and that's just not enough

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

TLJ is really good at stuff most people aren't looking for in a Star Wars movie and mediocre in what they are conditioned to expect from the franchise.

Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ammanas posted:

No, its bad, but its beautiful and everyone is really good at acting and Adam Driver just owns the movie. The only pleasure in the prequels is McGregor and that's just not enough

I know this is a comedy forum but goddamn lol.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN
Endlessly writing “it’s bad” is a waste of everyone’s time.

Episode 9 is bad because it has tons of artless expository dialogue and poor editing, where the prequel films are exceedingly well-edited and avoid exposition almost to a fault.

Contrast Luke’s infodump about the Jedi Order with The Tragedy Of Darth Plagueis The Wise - which baffled people because it’s explicitly a metaphorical story and not exposition.

Saying “they are both equally bad/good” shows that you aren’t interested in them as films.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Endlessly writing “it’s bad” is a waste of everyone’s time.

Episode 9 is bad because it has tons of artless expository dialogue and poor editing, where the prequel films are exceedingly well-edited and avoid exposition almost to a fault.

Contrast Luke’s infodump about the Jedi Order with The Tragedy Of Darth Plagueis The Wise - which baffled people because it’s explicitly a metaphorical story and not exposition.

Saying “they are both equally bad/good” shows that you aren’t interested in them as films.

I'll give you the editing is bad, but do you have a specific scene for the issue with the exposition? Like I'm not saying you're wrong, but Star Wars is a franchise kind of built on weird windy exposition starting from Obi-Wan's Clone Wars speech in A New Hope. Do you have something in particular in mind?

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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 209 days!

Bongo Bill posted:

In fiction, it is interpretation of divine visions.

Joke's on us: we really do contact mystical beings through drug, but because we don't take that poo poo seriously, we mostly end up in contact with the astral equivalent of the cast of Jackass.

Okay really, the our own subjectivity is the "mystical being." The Jackass bit is 100% true though.

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