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Time travelers did come back and it turns out that history as it is is the less awful timeline.
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Turns out Multiverse Theory is in fact a bitch.
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Jan 19, 2019 03:28
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Time travelers did come back and it turns out that history as it is is the less awful timeline.
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Jan 19, 2019 03:29
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The Bad Timeline involves competitive debate on the United States Tank Destroyer Doctrine being the national pastime.
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Jan 19, 2019 03:33
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So you're saying there's some good and some bad? Do they get that instead of reality TV?
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Jan 19, 2019 03:35
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I met this guy last year! It was really neat, he was doing pretty well for a guy in his 90s.
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Jan 19, 2019 03:35
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Time travelers did come back and it turns out that history as it is is the less awful timeline. Plot twist, every attempt to fix the past made everything worse so time travel is now illegal
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Jan 19, 2019 03:41
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Jan 19, 2019 03:44
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Taerkar posted:So you're saying there's some good and some bad? Do they get that instead of reality TV? they get tank destroyers, we get reality TV, but the adjacent timeline still has pikes and big silly hats
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Jan 19, 2019 03:52
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What's the most effective pike destroyer? Is it another pike?
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Jan 19, 2019 03:56
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HEY GUNS posted:they get tank destroyers, we get reality TV, but the adjacent timeline still has pikes and big silly hats So everyone not in that one lives in the worst timeline. Now I'm depressed and need a drink.
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Jan 19, 2019 03:57
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GotLag posted:What's the most effective pike destroyer? Is it another pike?
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Jan 19, 2019 04:04
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I can't believe I missed a discussion of what a lickspittle piece of poo poo Alan Clark was.
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Jan 19, 2019 04:07
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I can't believe I missed a discussion of what a lickspittle piece of poo poo Alan Clark was.
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Jan 19, 2019 04:12
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HEY GUNS posted:you misspelled pedo I was unaware, but I am unsurprised.
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Jan 19, 2019 04:36
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that take was the best take. the take of the discourse lover also I've been of the understanding that Nazi POWs the American South were treated better than the black Americans working at the facility. I don't have sources but honestly I also remember there being some letter to Stars and stripes or whatever the big official GI magazine was by a black guy complaining about all the prejudice and he ended by saying 'the other boys are saying you won't print this letter. I'm saying that you will'. and the magazine published it and there was some semblance of a conversation about race in the poo poo soldiers were reading I think I heard that in a lecture on tape about civil rights, also no source. I am the no source man
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Jan 19, 2019 05:40
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EvilMerlin posted:I've been lucky enough to serve with a lot of Marines over the years, and you are 100% correct, they will take something and just do... well stuff to it to get the job done. Yeah. Like:  "You know what's better than a 106mm Recoilless Rifle? SIX 106mm Recoilless Rifles." Edit; In fairness, the Army started development on this thing, but dropped it because it was too crazy, to which the USMC said "hold my beer." quote:The stories some of them told about LVTP's were loving hilarious (well most of the time , others it was downright startling). I did my first enlistment on them before lat-moving into tanks. Tankers are great, but AAV crewmen are just insane. Cessna fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jan 19, 2019 |
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Jan 19, 2019 05:58
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oystertoadfish posted:that take was the best take. the take of the discourse lover There was a story on NPR (that I'm having trouble digging up) about the populace surrounding a US prisoner of war camp in general resenting how well the Nazis were treated. The most resource-rich nation on the planet at the time providing adequate room and board to its enemies? Not hard to see how people in disadvantaged situations could resent that, especially coming out of the great depression. There was also a part of the story where some people in the town really grew to like the PoWs, which is a cross between heartwarming making friends out of your enemies like in the christmas truce and uncomfortable cuddling up with Nazis. Take your pick.
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Jan 19, 2019 06:24
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SlothfulCobra posted:There was a story on NPR (that I'm having trouble digging up) RadioLab?
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Jan 19, 2019 06:29
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SlothfulCobra posted:There was a story on NPR (that I'm having trouble digging up) about the populace surrounding a US prisoner of war camp in general resenting how well the Nazis were treated. The most resource-rich nation on the planet at the time providing adequate room and board to its enemies? Not hard to see how people in disadvantaged situations could resent that, especially coming out of the great depression. It's a story of a town realizing they had more in common with nazis than they thought, which is implied since they complained about POW treatment being too good at first.
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Jan 19, 2019 06:44
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Don Gato posted:Plot twist, every attempt to fix the past made everything worse so time travel is now illegal Someone smart could probably do a decent story on how the fascination of time travel stems in some small part for wanting to circumvent or abuse legal systems to some degree HEY GUNS posted:duct tape a glock to the end of it ...which end?
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Jan 19, 2019 07:11
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Cessna posted:< USMC Sherman with camouflage paint, wood anti-mine side-armor, wading gear, and fuckoff metal spikes on the hatches. I like that this tank looks like it has a pigeon problem.
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Jan 19, 2019 08:19
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 US Marines would build fighting positions on top of their LVTP-5s in Vietnam.
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Jan 19, 2019 09:19
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Don Gato posted:Plot twist, every attempt to fix the past made everything worse so time travel is now illegal Second plot twist, it turns out the reason why time travel made everything worse was too many idiots using the wormhole network to do their groceries without ever leaving the house
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Jan 19, 2019 12:10
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IIRC Japanese American internees were being treated worse than POWs so
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Jan 19, 2019 12:57
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Milo and POTUS posted:Someone smart could probably do a decent story on how the fascination of time travel stems in some small part for wanting to circumvent or abuse legal systems to some degree In the film Primer, time travel is used akin to insider trading, allowing the main characters to get rich off the stock market. Which strikes me as a fairly realistic take on what would happen if a couple of guys accidentally managed to invent the most powerful device in the history of mankind.
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Jan 19, 2019 13:24
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Libluini posted:Second plot twist, it turns out the reason why time travel made everything worse was too many idiots using the wormhole network to do their groceries without ever leaving the house Which is especially dumb because in any civilised country you can buy your groceries online and the supermarket will deliver them to your house.
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Jan 19, 2019 13:32
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Samuel Clemens posted:In the film Primer, time travel is used akin to insider trading, allowing the main characters to get rich off the stock market. Which strikes me as a fairly realistic take on what would happen if a couple of guys accidentally managed to invent the most powerful device in the history of mankind. Primer is an excellent movie.
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Jan 19, 2019 14:34
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feedmegin posted:Which is especially dumb because in any civilised country you can buy your groceries online and the supermarket will deliver them to your house. GotLag posted:What's the most effective pike destroyer? Is it another pike?
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Jan 19, 2019 16:09
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feedmegin posted:Which is especially dumb because in any civilised country you can buy your groceries online and the supermarket will deliver them to your house. Who is dumber? Someone who pays to get his groceries delivered, or the rear end in a top hat who fucks over the entire universe so he doesn't even have to pay? 
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Jan 19, 2019 16:20
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Libluini posted:Who is dumber? Someone who pays to get his groceries delivered, or the rear end in a top hat who fucks over the entire universe so he doesn't even have to pay? Hmmmm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939) Edit fixed URL Fangz fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 19, 2019 |
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Jan 19, 2019 16:24
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I think that link is broken, Wikipedia tells me that article doesn't exist
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Jan 19, 2019 16:56
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Libluini posted:I think that link is broken, Wikipedia tells me that article doesn't exist It's formatting a dash for the url https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939)
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Jan 19, 2019 17:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGDoSJmEyMc
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Jan 19, 2019 18:03
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LatwPIAT posted:
I'm mustache glasses
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Jan 19, 2019 18:05
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Big Dick Cheney posted:Can someone help me find a quote? I remember an old quote (might be apocryphal) where Hitler or Himmler or someone else sees the US aircraft production numbers, and they laugh at them, because they think the numbers are ridiculous. May or may not include something like "if these are true, we already lost the war" Reminds me a bit of Hitler's talk with Mannerheim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_and_Mannerheim_recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oET1WaG5sFk Hitler: “It is evident…evident. They have the most monstrous armament that is humanly conceivable (‘menschendenkbar’)…so…if anybody had told me that one state…(footsteps)…if anybody had told me that one state can line up with 35.000 tanks (Hitler uses the word ‘tank’), I had said ‘you have gone mad’… Unidentified: “Thirty-five…” Hitler: “35.000 Panzer (now he uses the word ‘Panzer’)…we have more than, we have at the time more than 34 Pan…thousand Panzer destroyed. If somebody had told me this to…had said: you…if one general of mine had declared, that a state here had 35.000 tanks, I had said, Mister (‘Mein Herr’), you are seeing everything double… or tenfold, this is crazy, you are seeing ghosts…I had not thought this possible…If somebody had told me that…I have told this just before, we have found industrial plants…one of this in (unintelligible: Kalanuskaja?) for example, that was under construction two years ago…and we had no idea…and today there is a tank production facility that…that…in the first shift a bit over 30.000 and in full development should have employed more than 60.000 workers…one single tank production facility…we have occupied it…a gargantuan facility…lots of workers who nevertheless live like animals and such…”
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Jan 19, 2019 18:09
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thats a really cool audio clip just wanted to say, if i had a time machine set to ww2 times i'd leave hitler to his own devices, grab a bunch of old newspapers from Rio or somewhere else nice that pretty much stayed out of things, and make enough money betting on horses or w/e to just chill
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Jan 19, 2019 18:11
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Nine of Eight posted:I'm mustache glasses My eyes were also immediately drawn to him
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Jan 19, 2019 20:23
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Valentine III and V Queue: Valentine IX, Valentine X and XI, 7TP and Vickers Mk.E trials in the USSR, Modern Polish tank projects, SD-100 (Czech SU-100 clone), TACAM R-2, kpúv vz. 34, kpúv vz. 37, kpúv vz. 38, IS-1 (IS-85), IS-2 (object 240), Production of the IS-2, IS-2 modernization projects, GMC M8, First Soviet assault rifles, Stahlhelm in WWI, Stahlhelm in WWII, SU-76 with big guns, Panther trials in the USSR, Western spherical tanks, S35 in German service, SU-152 combat debut, 57 mm gun M1, T-34 applique armour projects, Challenger I, military use of scale models, PzIV Ausf.F-G, Schmeisser's work in the USSR, Kalashnikov's debut works, Kalashnikov-Petrov self-loading carbine Available for request:  Object 237 (IS-1 prototype) SU-85 T-29-5 KV-85 Tank sleds T-80 (the light tank) Proposed Soviet heavy tank destroyers DS-39 tank machinegun MS-1/T-18 MS-1 production SU-76M (SU-15M) production S-51 SU-76I T-26 with mine detection equipment IS-2 mod. 1944 Airborne tanks Soviet WWII pistol and rifle suppressors NEW  Archer Avenger I  Medium Tank M3 use in the USSR HMC T82 Medium Tank M4A4 Hellcat HMC M37 GMC M41  Jagdpanzer IV Grosstraktor Gebirgskanone M 15 Maus development in 1943-44 German anti-tank rifles Panzer IV/70 Czech anti-tank rifles in German service Hotchkiss H 39/Pz.Kpfw.38H(f) in German service Flakpanzer 38(t) Flakpanzers on the PzIV chassis  Hotchkiss H 35 and H 39  FIAT 3000 FIAT L6-40 M13/40, M14/41, M15/42 Carro Armato P40 and prospective Italian heavy tanks  Experimental Polish tanks of the 1930s  Trials of the LT vz. 35 in the USSR Ensign Expendable fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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Cessna posted:I did my first enlistment on them before lat-moving into tanks. Tankers are great, but AAV crewmen are just insane. Yep. That about covers it. My best bud in Pittsburgh was one of those crazy bastards... now he is a film stunt person... go figure.
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