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Trapezium Dave posted:If Julie Bishop is out and the election goes as badly for the Liberals as projected, who will they have left to be opposition leader? It doesn't have to be anybody important or with long-term prospects. Their first leader after Howard lost government was Brendan Nelson, so if Kevin Andrews or Greg Hunt or some other also-ran took over I wouldn't be surprised. It's very rare for the first leader after government to win back government. Shorten looks set to do it in 2019 (assuming you ignore Bowen's interim term) but the only other person who came close post-WW2 was Beazley in 1998.
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Libs have a tendency to put someone disposable in after an election loss while they engage in gladiatorial combat to find the One True Leader. It would have been a good thing for Abbott to have lost, they've basically avoided facing what they should have back then for a decade and now it's so much worse.
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And Labor's infighting during government was almost all personality driven so when Rudd left most of the problems went away too. The Libs don't have that luxury, because there is a huge internal division on ideological grounds.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Good riddance to O'Dwyer, she was the epitome of the type of politician who can never give a straight answer - her television appearances were always infuriating for that reason. I don't think she'll bother with that since I'm certain there will be ten board positions waiting for her at $70k a throw.
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Anidav posted:Tudge. He's got a good chance of losing his seat. Especially now since the boundaries have been changed and I get the chance to vote him out 
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You Am I posted:He's got a good chance of losing his seat. last I checked you'd need a 9% swing to gently caress him over.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:And Labor's infighting during government was almost all personality driven so when Rudd left most of the problems went away too. Abbott and Barnaby are literally sitting behind the lib front benchers, sharpening their BIC pens into makeshift shivs.
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28766f69642a2930 posted:LOTO Christopher Pyne That would be worth putting $5 on I reckon. He's a smug fuckwit, but imagine how drat happy he would look sat in that chair.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It doesn't have to be anybody important or with long-term prospects. Their first leader after Howard lost government was Brendan Nelson, so if Kevin Andrews or Greg Hunt or some other also-ran took over I wouldn't be surprised. Brendan Nelson was a sacrificial lamb. At th etime the anti-Howard/anti-Lib feeling was so great that whoever they put in that position would be hated. Also, given Rudd was voted in to do the 3 big things, (say Sorry, kill WorkChoices, and sign Kyoto), and how popular those 3 things were at the time and how much the Libs were opposed to them, they needed to put someone in to be BOOed, and then replaced with someone more palatable/electable. Whilst I can see a huge swing against the LNP, people don't hate ScoMo the way they hated Howard. We had years to build up a hatred for that weasally fucker, and ScoMo just hasn't had enough time in charge for the Australian people to get to develop a true distaste for the man.
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Anidav posted:I dunno I reckon the first part of that ALP Conference ScoMo video played across the airways would get him hated very quickly. Which video?
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BrigadierSensible posted:Brendan Nelson was a sacrificial lamb. At th etime the anti-Howard/anti-Lib feeling was so great that whoever they put in that position would be hated. Also, given Rudd was voted in to do the 3 big things, (say Sorry, kill WorkChoices, and sign Kyoto), and how popular those 3 things were at the time and how much the Libs were opposed to them, they needed to put someone in to be BOOed, and then replaced with someone more palatable/electable. Downer was put in for similar reasons but there's an important factor you're missing, and that's the factional reason. The (NSW) Right have been in control of the party for decades, and when they need a sacrificial lamb, it's always a moderate. Though 28766f69642a2930 is somewhat joking about Pyne, he's very much the perfect candidate to be erected out front while the Right do the only thing it's good at, stabbing its enemies in the back. But they're running out of people. We may be witnessing the last gasp of this tactic, but who knows what depths of stupidity they'll sink to? Either the party splits or deals with its Right rump. I don't know how they'd do that.
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Amethyst posted:Which video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soZjCrnkKHs
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First time in a while watching free to air tv and holy gently caress the Clive Palmer ads. Seems like there's two or three each ad break
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hambeet posted:this made me sign up again Same. ---- Thank you for applying to join the Australian Labor Party. The strength of our Party is the strength of numbers — the thousands of Australians who are active, committed members. Your next step is to join your local ALP branch, or get involved in a local campaign. Simply contact our office on 07 3844 8101 or email info@qld.alp.org.au and we can provide you with details of your local branch or campaign and assist you with any queries you may have. This email does not confirm that payment has been processed. You will receive a separate email once your payment has gone through. Your online application for membership will be formally considered at the next meeting of the ALP’s Administrative Committee. The Committee meets on the second Monday of each month. You will receive more information shortly after that meeting. Welcome! We are excited to have you as a part of our movement to make make real change, and make the lives of Queenslanders better. Kind regards, The team at Party Office.
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Video would have been super great had it not ended the well done scare campaign with Running Bill Shorten. Just cut it off before any pro ALP stuff and throw it on the air waves.
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Gridlocked posted:Video would have been super great had it not ended the well done scare campaign with Running Bill Shorten. Just cut it off before any pro ALP stuff and throw it on the air waves. You need to tell people what to do about it.
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JBP posted:You need to tell people what to do about it. They didn't mention voting for The Greens???
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JBP posted:You need to tell people what to do about it. Indeed, To vote Liberal!
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Question that sounds bad but I don’t understand why the media aren’t being (as) poo poo in this particular instance. They guy arrested for the rape and murder of this poor student in Bundoora looks like he is of indigenous background and in a couple of articles says he has “family in cape York”. Why isn’t the media beating the ethnic drum in this case? Surely if he was Muslim or Sudanese it’d be mentioned everywhere. Is it just the wrong type of black and crime to match? Vilify indigenous Australians for being drunk or unemployed, muslims for rape crimes and terrorism etc Edit- just to make it clear obviously I’m not saying they should make it a factor I just expect dumb poo poo from them now
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28766f69642a2930 posted:LOTO Christopher Pyne Pyne is the standardbearer of the small l liberals, I don't think he could get off the ground Frydenberg is my guess
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teacup posted:Question that sounds bad but I don’t understand why the media aren’t being (as) poo poo in this particular instance. I imagine because it's tricky to deport Indigenous Australians. That leaves 'they are born criminals' which might be a bridge too far even for the wingnut media. E: I mean they could say this sort of thing happens because of systemic racism which denies them opportunities and services but hahahahaha I'm talking about wingnut media here.
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Turks posted:They didn't mention voting for The Greens??? The party of rape and gaffs don't feel right to me.
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The indigenous kid raped and murdered an Arab so it's a wash to the media.
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JBP posted:The party of rape and gaffs don't feel right to me. That's because it's "gaffes"
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McEnroe: what are they booing Woodbridge: the prime minister, that's the prime minister McEnroe: haha ok
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JBP posted:McEnroe: what are they booing Hahaha
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