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MisterBibs posted:This was my inspiration for the question, actually. I saw that and thought it was a case of Murphy lying his metal rear end off, but then I recalled the Robot With Murphy's Face thing. Pretty sure he was lying, so his wife would finally let him go, and start a new life for herself and their son.
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Davros1 posted:Pretty sure he was lying, so his wife would finally let him go, and start a new life for herself and their son. And thus ended the only decent storyline in RoboCop 2.
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Wheat Loaf posted:According to Wikipedia, the first major novelisation of a Hollywood movie was apparently King Kong. That's fascinating, King Kong is pretty meta in a lot of ways.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That's fascinating, King Kong is pretty meta in a lot of ways. I thought King Kong was WETA? I'll see myself out... 
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Davros1 posted:Pretty sure he was lying, so his wife would finally let him go, and start a new life for herself and their son. This is 100% what is happening. Robocop 2 isn't bad, it's good, but in a completely different way from the genius of the first one. It's a really perfect product of its time.
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AlternateAccount posted:This is 100% what is happening. Robocop 2 isn't bad, it's good, but in a completely different way from the genius of the first one. It's a really perfect product of its time. Nah, it's an awful movie in most respects. It completely lacks the charisma and charm of the original and abandons the one logical plot point to follow from the end of Robo1--Murphy's struggle to deal with the horror that was perpetrated upon him--for endless violence and gore. In many respects, I think that RoboCop 3 a better sequel. We do not speak of Prime Directives.
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Davros1 posted:Pretty sure he was lying, so his wife would finally let him go, and start a new life for herself and their son. Yeah, I know that, my point was that I wasn't entirely sure if Robo was inadvertently telling her the truth without realizing it.
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Is Big Trouble In Little China the origin of the "Are you ready?" / "I was born ready!" exchange or is it older than that?
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How come very good 80s and 90s directors kinda poo poo up the 00s? Spielberg, Cameron etc? Or is it just they got old and out of touch?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is Big Trouble In Little China the origin of the "Are you ready?" / "I was born ready!" exchange or is it older than that? Its in Smokey and the Bandit (1977) but no idea if that's the earliest use in media.
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Empress Brosephine posted:How come very good 80s and 90s directors kinda poo poo up the 00s? Spielberg, Cameron etc? Or is it just they got old and out of touch? Cameron made one movie that was pretty okay and also made a ton of money. Spielberg has honestly had a pretty good track record. I mean it’s not unheard of for people that age to get a little soft- you realize there’s maybe more to life than getting that shot just perfect- but the old guard are honestly not doing too bad.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is Big Trouble In Little China the origin of the "Are you ready?" / "I was born ready!" exchange or is it older than that? Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985) had this moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZDdQWeNmL8 Empress Brosephine posted:How come very good 80s and 90s directors kinda poo poo up the 00s? Spielberg, Cameron etc? Or is it just they got old and out of touch? I wouldn't call Spielberg's 2000s oeuvre of Munich, War of the Worlds, Catch Me If You Can, Minority Report that bad as it's better than some of his earlier stuff. I'd most definitely take that quartet over this 1980s-1990s quartet: Amistad, The Lost World: Jurassic Park, Always, The Color Purple. Also, A.I. Artificial Intelligence is a great film.
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I think I’m the only person on earth who liked The Terminal, but jeez his War of the Worlds effort can gently caress right off.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I think I’m the only person on earth who liked The Terminal, but jeez his War of the Worlds effort can gently caress right off. I just watched The Terminal for the first time the other day and thought it was alright, but what was wrong with War of the Worlds? I liked that one quite a bit at the time, and thought it held up great when I rewatched it not long ago.
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All you need to watch of War of The World is the first tripod coming out of the ground, honking, powering up, and then as soon as it shoots its first blast you can turn the movie off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuEZWnhkXfg
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Enos Cabell posted:I just watched The Terminal for the first time the other day and thought it was alright, but what was wrong with War of the Worlds? I liked that one quite a bit at the time, and thought it held up great when I rewatched it not long ago. It’s been close to 15 years since I’ve seen it, but the top of a long list of reasons was Dakota Fanning. And yeah the honks were cool and that’s about it.
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Did the Spielberg version have the Thunder Child scene? (I've actually never seen the entire thing.)
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Wheat Loaf posted:Did the Spielberg version have the Thunder Child scene? No, but it did have a lot of Dakota Fanning screaming and an overly long scene where they hide in a basement. With Tim Robbins, for some reason. Like, the vid I posted is literally the only interesting thing that happens in the movie. Alien invaders try to take over the planet, and he finds a way to make it boring as gently caress.
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I feel like I've heard that horn sound effect in Lord of the Rings. 
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I should contest this by saying I was watching ready player one. I just don’t recal as many eye rolling dialog in his other movies until now. “Oooohhh old school!” 🤢🤢🤢🤢
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Empress Brosephine posted:How come very good 80s and 90s directors kinda poo poo up the 00s? Spielberg, Cameron etc? Or is it just they got old and out of touch? Anyways, one hypothesis is that as directors have lots of success, they start getting blank checks, and they sort of go nuts and take big risks that often don't work out. That's kind of the premise of this podcast, which goes through the filmographies of directors to answer these sorts of questions. They have a Cameron miniseries and a "Spielberg in the 80s through 00s" series, so you can listen to those two if you want an answer better than mine. It's a great podcast and I highly recommend it!
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Tim Burton example of an 80s/90s director whose work deteriorated in the '00s, but even the. He's had a few decent movies in this century.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Tim Burton example of an 80s/90s director whose work deteriorated in the '00s, but even the. He's had a few decent movies in this century. Ridley Scott has a few good things attached to his name. Man in the High Castle still going strong shame about his bro
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Some 80s/90s directors have made bad movies in the 00s (and even the 10s sometimes) but it's crazy that Martin Brest hasn't had a career at all since Gigli. Even the guy who did Pluto Nash still does a lot of work in television.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Some 80s/90s directors have made bad movies in the 00s (and even the 10s sometimes) but it's crazy that Martin Brest hasn't had a career at all since Gigli. i thought we were supposed to hate jlow and assfleck
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I honestly don’t think Scorcese has made a banger since gangs of New York but I’m probably alone in that.
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Empress Brosephine posted:I honestly don’t think Scorcese has made a banger since gangs of New York but I’m probably alone in that. Yeah, I think every non-doc he’s made since then is better
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Is there a legal/contractual requirement for studios to put their vanity cards in movie trailers, or do they just do it to foster brand recognition (or for like pacing or to satisfy a norm or whatever)?
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Empress Brosephine posted:I should contest this by saying I was watching ready player one. I just don’t recal as many eye rolling dialog in his other movies until now. “Oooohhh old school!” 🤢🤢🤢🤢 Most of the eye rolling dialog in Ready Player One is straight out of the eye rolling book it's based on.
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Groundskeeper Silly posted:Is there a legal/contractual requirement for studios to put their vanity cards in movie trailers, or do they just do it to foster brand recognition (or for like pacing or to satisfy a norm or whatever)? Oh no, their distribution contract will specify that they have the right to do it. They insist. It’s branding and ego.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Tim Burton example of an 80s/90s director whose work deteriorated in the '00s, but even the. He's had a few decent movies in this century.
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Parachute posted:i wish william friedkin would direct more stuff especially after killer joe and bug He did recently make a documentary about a real life exorcist but by all accounts it's not that great
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Anyways, one hypothesis is that as directors have lots of success, they start getting blank checks, and they sort of go nuts and take big risks that often don't work out. That's kind of the premise of this podcast, which goes through the filmographies of directors to answer these sorts of questions. They have a Cameron miniseries and a "Spielberg in the 80s through 00s" series, so you can listen to those two if you want an answer better than mine. It's a great podcast and I highly recommend it! It could also be simply that the people and processes around their movies change. Different producers, writers, editors, different types of projects offered to them, etc. Spielberg's latter years are definitely not 'going nuts and taking big risks.' Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Do you have anyone in mind other than Spielberg (who I think made some of his best movies in the 00s) and Cameron (who has made, by my last count, one movie in the 00s)? My "very good 80s and 90s directors" list includes people who made some bomb-rear end 00s movies: Martin Scorsese, David Lynch, Leos Carax, Jim Jarmusch, Peter Greenaway, Wong Kar-Wai, and Michael Mann (Miami Vice is good, fight me). Looking at a random list of "Best 80s Directors" that I just found online (it's really more 'anglo directors who made some well-known movies in the 80s): John Hughes Steven Spielberg John Carpenter Robert Zemeckis Rob Reiner Martin Scorsese James Cameron John Landis Ridley Scott Richard Donner Oliver Stone David Cronenberg David Lynch Ivan Reitman Harold Ramis Terry Gilliam Werner Herzog Robert Altman John Hughes just didn't do anything after the 80s. Carpenter just mostly retired in the 00s. Zemeckis spent the whole decade doing those weird CGI movies, he's probably the most glaring 'turned to poo poo' example here. Rob Reiner, I dunno. He was never that good. Landis has the whole 'deaths while shooting a movie' thing, though his career took a few years to really slow down (was that because of how long the trial was? I don't know). Ridley Scott just loves making movies regardless of their quality. He arguably had his resurgence in the 00s. Donner just had some projects that weren't too good. He's old as hell. Stone went out of style and is another clear 'turned to poo poo' example. Cronenberg's had some of his biggest critical successes in the 00s. Lynch has mostly just not done anything. Ivan Reitman and Harold Ramis were probably never particularly good directors in the first place. Gilliam has an old gypsy curse. Herzog has always been a bit hit or miss. Altman died. from the 90s, into the 'got worse' pile, you can toss in Spike Lee.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Looking at a random list of "Best 80s Directors" that I just found online (it's really more 'anglo directors who made some well-known movies in the 80s): I just saw Blackkklansman or w/e Didn't know until the end credits it was a Spike Lee joint, color me uninformed His treatment of white characters was so unlike the stereotype about him also, looking up, Terry Gilliam owns so maybe I should re-read your post before going off half cocked
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I think he's referring to the various production problems that seem to constantly happen to Gilliam
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Purple Monkey posted:I think he's referring to the various production problems that seem to constantly happen to Gilliam I probably should have pieced it together with James Cameron c'mon guy we're all waiting for Avatar#
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syscall girl posted:also, looking up, Terry Gilliam owns so maybe I should re-read your post before going off half cocked He may own (I find his output wildly inconsistent even within a single film) but can you really deny he was cursed by a gypsy?
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