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Ignis
Mar 31, 2011

I take it you don't want my autograph, then.


I watched both Fyre docs back to back (Netflix first, Hulu afterwards) and I felt that was the best order to watch them in - Netflix dwells more on Fyre in general, and then you move on to Hulu's take on the guy leading the shitshow. They're both entertaining but flawed docs.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
American Crime Story S2 is on Netflix now and it's so so so good. Very different from S1 but arguably even better. Watch.

MajorBonnet
May 28, 2009

How did I get here?

DrNutt posted:

Oh word, I can agree with that. We're essentially living in a corporate run cyberpunk future except instead of super cool deckers with floating skateboards and the finest katanas we have Logan Paul and PewDiePie.

Truly the worst timeline

old.flv
Jan 28, 2017

A good lad who likes his Anna's.
the fyre doc on netflix is giving me anxiety

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
IO on Netflix might be legitimately the most boring movie I have ever watched in my life. And I'm usually a huge fan of slow burns, not to mention a huge sucker for Post Apoc stuff. I don't think it had a single interesting moment in it.

It also felt like it was 4 hours long despite being a lean 90 minutes.

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

veni veni veni posted:

IO on Netflix might be legitimately the most boring movie I have ever watched in my life. And I'm usually a huge fan of slow burns, not to mention a huge sucker for Post Apoc stuff. I don't think it had a single interesting moment in it.

It also felt like it was 4 hours long despite being a lean 90 minutes.

drat, the previews make it look pretty drat good too.

Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018
For anybody interested, a bunch of Seijun Suzuki movies have been added to Amazon Prime. Right now the following movies are up there:

Voice Without a Shadow (1958)
The Boy Who Came Back (1958)
Smashing the 0-line (1960)
Tokyo Knights (1961)
The Man with a Shotgun (1961)
Teenage Yakuza (1962)
Stories of Bastards: Born Under Crossed Stars (1965)
Kagero-za (1981)
Yumeji (1991)

It looks like it's about half the movies from each of Arrow's box sets.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

veni veni veni posted:

IO on Netflix might be legitimately the most boring movie I have ever watched in my life. And I'm usually a huge fan of slow burns, not to mention a huge sucker for Post Apoc stuff. I don't think it had a single interesting moment in it.

It also felt like it was 4 hours long despite being a lean 90 minutes.

The first 10 minutes are definitely insanely boring, I turned it off

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

if you're a Noomi Rapace fan, she's the only redeeming factor in Close

if you're not a Noomi Rapace fan, avoid Close at all costs

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
Both IO and Close look like cheap bullshit, I’m not surprised

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

The chasm between how much I hate the Patriots and how much I love the show Patriot could not be any wider right now.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

BisterdDave posted:

drat, the previews make it look pretty drat good too.

The previews made it look like trash, what did you see that we didn't? Low-budget filler, aka Netflix's MO

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

TheManWithNoName posted:

The chasm between how much I hate the Patriots and how much I love the show Patriot could not be any wider right now.

:same:

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Watching Io, and I wish the character was sardonic instead of super-serious. Maybe with a robot buddy.

And I don't get why she lives in a tent instead of a bunker.

Edit: It's super boring.

Lycus fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Jan 21, 2019

blood_dot_biz
Feb 24, 2013

Almost Blue posted:

For anybody interested, a bunch of Seijun Suzuki movies have been added to Amazon Prime. Right now the following movies are up there:

Voice Without a Shadow (1958)
The Boy Who Came Back (1958)
Smashing the 0-line (1960)
Tokyo Knights (1961)
The Man with a Shotgun (1961)
Teenage Yakuza (1962)
Stories of Bastards: Born Under Crossed Stars (1965)
Kagero-za (1981)
Yumeji (1991)

It looks like it's about half the movies from each of Arrow's box sets.

Hell yeah, I haven't seen any of these before.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

Mammal Sauce posted:

If there are any other goons who have skipped The Shield for whatever reason, go to Hulu and start a marathon. I'm halfway through season 2 and it's the best thing I've watched since The Wire.

I've known of the show, but at some point I got it in my head it was originally on one of the big three and assumed it would be a watered-down poo poo fest. Luckily, I finally gave it a whirl and discovered how wrong I was.

I feel like I have watched 90-95% of everything that is considered prestige television since 2000. That said you reminded me the biggest show I was missing was The Shield. I watched the first 2 episodes last night, and now I have committed to binge watching it. While I enjoyed what I've seen so far, I will withhold any opinions at least until I finish season 1. My only complaint is that awful Kid Rock song in the first episode made it feel so dated, but that is my fault since I am watching it 17 years later.

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

I really enjoyed the Shield as it aired but I feel like it would be super dated now. A fat dad wearing Ed hardy.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

TheManWithNoName posted:

I really enjoyed the Shield as it aired but I feel like it would be super dated now. A fat dad wearing Ed hardy.

In some ways it's dated, but in other ways it feels more relevant. A lot of the stuff the Strike Team gets up to felt like it was over the top at the time, not so much anymore. In Baltimore we found out that a Strike Team-type unit was doing a lot of that same poo poo for years(including the strong possibility of executing one of their own who was going to testify) and they were just recently exposed.

So some of the trappings are definitely dated(the music, the clothes, etc), as a story I think it feels more real than ever before.

That pilot was extremely groundbreaking though, that really can't be understated. The idea of having your main character do something so heinous in the opening episode was just not done. The creators/writers of the show I think felt conflicted about it going forward because it was something that they could never take back but at the same time it really gave The Shield a unique stamp right out of the gate that made it a show to watch in people's minds.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Basebf555 posted:

In some ways it's dated, but in other ways it feels more relevant. A lot of the stuff the Strike Team gets up to felt like it was over the top at the time, not so much anymore. In Baltimore we found out that a Strike Team-type unit was doing a lot of that same poo poo for years(including the strong possibility of executing one of their own who was going to testify) and they were just recently exposed.

So some of the trappings are definitely dated(the music, the clothes, etc), as a story I think it feels more real than ever before.

That pilot was extremely groundbreaking though, that really can't be understated. The idea of having your main character do something so heinous in the opening episode was just not done. The creators/writers of the show I think felt conflicted about it going forward because it was something that they could never take back but at the same time it really gave The Shield a unique stamp right out of the gate that made it a show to watch in people's minds.

Yeah, doing something like that to cement the protagonist of a show as a straight up villain by the end of the first hour was insane. I can’t think of any show that’s done it that hard that fast before or since.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
also it had the best member-for-member cast of any cop type show ever imo - specifically walton goggins. he and chiklis pretty much carried that show with their charisma alone despite being arguably the 2 'worst' characters, and i remember an interview with either shawn ryan or kurt sutter where they said they tried really hard to get you to not root for them.

also it's hard to mention good performances on that show without mentioning how great anthony anderson was on season 5 (iirc)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Goggins came out of nowhere too. I just watched the Bourne movies and he shows up there as like a techie computer dude with 2 lines, and around the same time he was also in House of 1000 Corpses for like 5 minutes(he gets a great death though).

You could probably say that it took him a season or two to really make Shane his own but by the end of the series it's really the Chiklis/Goggins show.

Mr. Toodles
Jun 22, 2004

I support prison abolition, except for posters without avatars.

Basebf555 posted:


That pilot was extremely groundbreaking though, that really can't be understated. The idea of having your main character do something so heinous in the opening episode was just not done. The creators/writers of the show I think felt conflicted about it going forward because it was something that they could never take back but at the same time it really gave The Shield a unique stamp right out of the gate that made it a show to watch in people's minds.

Seriously. I remember watching it when it first came out, and that first episode blew me away. Its pretty commonplace now, but that was the first show that I knew of that used curse words (short of gently caress) on a non-premium channel show, and used them regularly. Real language and then how the whole thing played out in that first episode had me hooked for that initial run.

Also don't forget about the great guest stars on that show too. They pulled in some major talent.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Basebf555 posted:

In some ways it's dated, but in other ways it feels more relevant. A lot of the stuff the Strike Team gets up to felt like it was over the top at the time, not so much anymore. In Baltimore we found out that a Strike Team-type unit was doing a lot of that same poo poo for years(including the strong possibility of executing one of their own who was going to testify) and they were just recently exposed.

It wasn’t really out of left field for the time. The show was conceived around the, then recently, uncovered Rampart Scandal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

It wasn’t really out of left field for the time. The show was conceived around the, then recently, uncovered Rampart Scandal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal

I never realized that's what that Woody Harrelson movie Rampart was about. Is that movie worth checking out? I assume probably yes because it's Woody, he's always great.

Edit: reading more about it the story of the movie is only tangentially related to the actual Rampart scandal

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Almost Blue posted:

For anybody interested, a bunch of Seijun Suzuki movies have been added to Amazon Prime. Right now the following movies are up there:

Voice Without a Shadow (1958)
The Boy Who Came Back (1958)
Smashing the 0-line (1960)
Tokyo Knights (1961)
The Man with a Shotgun (1961)
Teenage Yakuza (1962)
Stories of Bastards: Born Under Crossed Stars (1965)
Kagero-za (1981)
Yumeji (1991)

It looks like it's about half the movies from each of Arrow's box sets.

I started with Yumeji first and then realized that it is apparently a continuation of Kagero-za and you are suppose to watch that first? I am watching Kagero-za right now anywho. These are very different movies from what I normally watch, but that is good! I am wanting to diversify a bit, along with watching some older movies.

old.flv
Jan 28, 2017

A good lad who likes his Anna's.

Basebf555 posted:

I never realized that's what that Woody Harrelson movie Rampart was about. Is that movie worth checking out? I assume probably yes because it's Woody, he's always great.

I did not think Rampart was particularly good

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

nate fisher posted:

(The Shield) My only complaint is that awful Kid Rock song in the first episode made it feel so dated, but that is my fault since I am watching it 17 years later.
I warned you guys!!!

Glenn Close, Forest Whitaker, Laura Harring, Franka Potente, Laurie Holden... The guest stars really were top notch on that show.

When it ended I was sad I wouldn’t get to see the continuing adventures of Dutch & Claudette.

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

Did Dutch ever progress from killing cats into anything more serious?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

TheManWithNoName posted:

Did Dutch ever progress from killing cats into anything more serious?

Nah, it seemed like that was actually kind of a turning point for him where he was totally disgusted with himself. Mostly was just a regular detective after that.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

TheManWithNoName posted:

Did Dutch ever progress from killing cats into anything more serious?

Kurt Sutter wanted him to go full serial killer but that was thankfully vetoed. Sutter is terrible like that, he can’t ever find the line between “out there” and “that’s just excessive”.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

old.flv posted:

I did not think Rampart was particularly good

Rampart is unfortunately only remembered now for the botched attempt to promote it on Reddit.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Rampart is good as hell, though I'm biased because I'm such a big Woody Harrelson fan. If you are also, you will enjoy it. Goddamn the man just knows how to INHABIT a role.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

david_a posted:

I warned you guys!!!

Glenn Close, Forest Whitaker, Laura Harring, Franka Potente, Laurie Holden... The guest stars really were top notch on that show.

When it ended I was sad I wouldn’t get to see the continuing adventures of Dutch & Claudette.

The scene where Glen Close interrogates Anthony Anderson is one of the best scenes in any show ever.

I also almost didnt watch Justified because I was so angry at what Goggins had done.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

B-Rock452 posted:

The scene where Glen Close interrogates Anthony Anderson is one of the best scenes in any show ever.

I also almost didnt watch Justified because I was so angry at what Goggins had done.

Careful there's people itt who are gonna watch it for the first time.

Optimist with doubt
May 16, 2010

Scoop Lover

:vince:

he knows...

Ignis posted:

I watched both Fyre docs back to back (Netflix first, Hulu afterwards) and I felt that was the best order to watch them in - Netflix dwells more on Fyre in general, and then you move on to Hulu's take on the guy leading the shitshow. They're both entertaining but flawed docs.

I watched it the other way around and I was expecting to hate the netflix one as it was produced by the fuckjerry people. I loved both docs equally, both still had more questions than answers in some cases. I was expecting the fuckjerry people to make themselves look better in their doc and if that was their goal swing and a miss.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

I started The Shield when the second season premiered and the reveal that Armadillo had tattooed his rape mark on the little girl's face was shocking

These days you expect that kind of thing from really edgy shows but at the time I think the only show that had ever been that cruel was Oz

edit: and the Shield got away with all that poo poo on basic cable

Filthy Hans fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jan 22, 2019

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Filthy Hans posted:

I started The Shield when the second season premiered and the reveal that Armadillo had tattooed his rape mark on the little girl's face was shocking

These days you expect that kind of thing from really edgy shows but at the time I think the only show that had ever been that cruel was Oz

edit: and the Shield got away with all that poo poo on basic cable

We've regressed since those years, as far as network television goes. All of the boundary pushing content went to the streaming services, but before that you had big network shows like NYPD Blue just throwing out curse words and even nudity and if it was a big enough hit they were allowed to do it.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Fyre: It was buggin' me where I've seen that actress before. Duh, Travelers.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Basebf555 posted:

We've regressed since those years, as far as network television goes. All of the boundary pushing content went to the streaming services, but before that you had big network shows like NYPD Blue just throwing out curse words and even nudity and if it was a big enough hit they were allowed to do it.

There was some real torture porn on the networks for a while there, first Law & Order: SVU and then the really heinous poo poo like Criminal Minds

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Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

This is a borderline crime against humanity but after 20 years I finally started The Sopranos and I now know where every single Italian American stereotype has come from. I'm glad I get to enjoy it on a binge for the first time.

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