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Votlook posted:I once heard a system administrator say "Does that /dev/null directory even exist?" while inspecting a bash script we delivered. "Yes; yes it does. And for that comment, we will be directing your paycheque there for the next month."
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Not everyone has used *NIX systems extensively. Or at all. With modern editors/IDEs, is there even a difference anymore given how awesome VSCode is, the command-line stuff is mostly useful for project janitoring, setting up environments to run in, and when combined with git. And even with git, it's not nearly as useful and prolific as it was with CVS/SVN. I'd find it either suspicious or irrelevant if they didn't know what grep is depending on the language used and the projects they've had experience with. At the same time, they're a junior dev so it doesn't matter. grep, like all GNU, takes half a second to learn and a lifetime of man, --help, or googling to never master. And by that I mean, it's easy to know what a command can be used for but most are used infrequently enough that you never really commit it to memory and just look it up. Khorne fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jan 5, 2019 |
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Khorne posted:they're a junior dev so it doesn't matter. grep, like all GNU, takes half a second to learn and a lifetime of man, --help, or googling to never master. And by that I mean, it's easy to know what a command can be used for but most are used infrequently enough that you never really commit it to memory and just look it up. 
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Votlook posted:I once heard a system administrator say "Does that /dev/null directory even exist?" while inspecting a bash script we delivered.  ?
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Err on the side of durr.
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Jan 6, 2019 02:28
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I told a developer with 5 years of experience to recreate the query that was dividing by zero. He said "it's not zero.." He sent me the query he used, on a massive report that was dividing by zero for one company for one product group for one month. The entire query he used: select sum(dollars) from dw_sales Auglucujfjfifj
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Jan 10, 2019 10:53
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Loutre posted:I told a developer with 5 years of experience to recreate the query that was dividing by zero. He said "it's not zero.." Bugfix: merged product group X into product group Y in org chart.
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CPColin posted:"What is grep?" 
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Jan 10, 2019 18:16
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From my friend's notes going through some horrible old code:quote:Duplicated “6D – Superannuation expenses” as there is also “6D_Superannuation expenses” in the AL15 and AL16 years
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Loutre posted:I told a developer with 5 years of experience to recreate the query that was dividing by zero. He said "it's not zero.." Just buy the product once a month yourself - problem solved!
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Markus Elfring is still at it.. I still believe he must be at least partially a bot.
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Athas posted:Markus Elfring is still at it.. I still believe he must be at least partially a bot. Love that dude.
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Athas posted:Markus Elfring is still at it.. I still believe he must be at least partially a bot. you can now have your static analysis/linting presented to you by a chatbot written by someone whose sole knowledge of persuasive writing is the wikipedia article about the socratic method
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I don't think he's a bot, but he's clearly following a script at least initially.
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Jan 20, 2019 13:23
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Doom Mathematic posted:I don't think he's a bot, but he's clearly following a script at least initially. AI or OCD or AI-assisted OCD? Who knows?
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Jan 20, 2019 13:34
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Is it really true AI if it isn't susceptible to the same imperfections as we are?
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If he can't pass a Turing test he does not merit being treated as a human imo.
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Does it please you to believe he does not merit being treated as a human imo?
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check out his profile he actually got some other poor sap to change a name that started with _ shortly after numpy shut him down
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Changing your preprocesser guards to use names that aren't reserved takes like two minutes and doesn't have any downsides and refusing to do it out of spite is dumb.
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Plorkyeran posted:Changing your preprocesser guards to use names that aren't reserved takes like two minutes and doesn't have any downsides and refusing to do it out of spite is dumb.
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Plorkyeran posted:Changing your preprocesser guards to use names that aren't reserved takes like two minutes and doesn't have any downsides and refusing to do it out of spite is dumb. Or there is more important work for the people volunteering their time to manage the library. They said they would take a PR.
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Jan 20, 2019 23:55
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Plorkyeran posted:Changing your preprocesser guards to use names that aren't reserved takes like two minutes and doesn't have any downsides and refusing to do it out of spite is dumb. Sure, so why didn't he open a PR doing just that?
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Just use pragma once to really short circuit the bots.
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Jan 21, 2019 00:12
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i wouldnt trust any PR from markus elfring given that he has a CVE to his name lol
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Suspicious Dish posted:i wouldnt trust any PR from markus elfring given that he has a CVE to his name lol This sounds interesting
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Jan 21, 2019 01:49
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Plorkyeran posted:Changing your preprocesser guards to use names that aren't reserved takes like two minutes and doesn't have any downsides and refusing to do it out of spite is dumb.
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Refusing to take a patch out of spite is dumb. Refusing to spend your own time writing a patch when there’s zero evidence that it’s causing any problems for anyone is fine.
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Suspicious Dish posted:
I am looking for constructive responses. Disagreements can trigger special communication challenges.
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xtal posted:I am looking for constructive responses. Disagreements can trigger special communication challenges. Would you like to achieve that this software does not have special communication challenges?
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xtal posted:I am looking for constructive responses. Disagreements can trigger special communication challenges. 
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Beamed posted:Sure, so why didn't he open a PR doing just that? Because if he is actually a human who is genuinely trying to communicate then there is something deeply wrong with him. Going "meh, I don't see a reason to care" is a perfectly reasonable response to getting a Markus Elfring bug report. Going "eh, might as well I guess" is also a perfectly reasonable response and doesn't make you a "poor sap".
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Jazerus posted:Would you like to achieve that this software does not have special communication challenges? shut up eliza
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xtal posted:This sounds interesting trying to find the exact LKML thread but one of his patches that he tricked a subsystem maintainer into accidentally accepting removed a vital check for no reason which effectively ended up with an attacker-controlled pointer set. Other times his patches don't even compile and break the build. Basically, he's burnt up all of his goodwill at this point. Not trusting his motivations or his patches is the sensible response. It's not rejecting a patch out of spite, it's rejecting a patch from a contributor who has caused issues in the past without remorse or ability to communicate.
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People that blindly fix compiler and static analyzer warnings are my biggest pet peeve.
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SupSuper posted:People that blindly fix compiler and static analyzer warnings are my biggest pet peeve. 
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SupSuper posted:People that blindly fix compiler and static analyzer warnings are my biggest pet peeve. Not sure if they’re worse than people who don’t evaluate them at all. Also, turn on spell check. Namaste.
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Someone in my scrum team actually defended calling external web APIs inside of not only a database transaction, but a performance critical transaction.
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Joda posted:Someone in my scrum team actually defended calling external web APIs inside of not only a database transaction, but a performance critical transaction. Like in a "we should profile this and see if it's actually a problem" way, or an "obviously this is completely fine and there's something wrong with you if don't see that" way?
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ultrafilter posted:Like in a "we should profile this and see if it's actually a problem" way, or an "obviously this is completely fine and there's something wrong with you if don't see that" way? In a, "this has to fail and rollback if their side fails, and this is the only way to do it" way. Which is pretty much the way we do it here. No one ever tries to find proper solutions, and if they ask for the time, they get shut down. Also, it definitely is a problem. It's really a generic integration against multiple different APIs, that regularly fails to work, and consistently hangs for seconds.
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