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System Metternich posted:So if I got this right, May's newest idea is to negotiate a separate deal with Ireland even though Dublin has repeatedly made it clear that this is not something that is going to happen, ever? From the little things being leaked from her cabinet it's clear she's all in with the hard brexit side of her government rather than try to appeal to parliament. Which means now more than ever everything she does is just to stall while we shamble towards no deal. Yes she is incompetent but I think from now on the incompetence is going to be pantomime. I expect all manner of bullshit 'ideas' will be floated and then quickly dismissed as we approach the vote in February. It also seems this has stopped whatever jitters were making people leak that a GE was imminent. I'd love to be wrong about that last bit but eh, it's gone very quiet and all our lovely media is just going around in circles going "can May REALLY rewrite the GFA!????!?!? IS this GOOD or BAD? DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" which means absolutely nothing is happening.
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Obliterati posted:They might be on it, but 'plan' is a little strong as few ministers are willing to tell their departments wtf is up so they're mostly improvising their own No Deal plans without ministerial input Considering that the ministers seem to be assigned to departments with no regards to their knowledge about that field, that almost sounds like a good thing.
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Barry Foster posted:I tend to severely downplay my knowledge, intelligence and experience both to myself and others, because I'm so deathly afraid of becoming another dunning kruger casualty. well yeah it isn't their job to know things. in a lot of cases you could say its their job to not know things.
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Regarde Aduck posted:From the little things being leaked from her cabinet it's clear she's all in with the hard brexit side of her government rather than try to appeal to parliament. Which means now more than ever everything she does is just to stall while we shamble towards no deal. Yes she is incompetent but I think from now on the incompetence is going to be pantomime. I expect all manner of bullshit 'ideas' will be floated and then quickly dismissed as we approach the vote in February. It also seems this has stopped whatever jitters were making people leak that a GE was imminent. I'd love to be wrong about that last bit but eh, it's gone very quiet and all our lovely media is just going around in circles going "can May REALLY rewrite the GFA!????!?!? IS this GOOD or BAD? DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" which means absolutely nothing is happening. I thought that back during the referendum she was generally on the remain side of things, even though she mostly didn't say anything in the hopes of thereby positioning herself as a possible successor to Cameron? What changed, or has it all been an act from day 1?
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System Metternich posted:I thought that back during the referendum she was generally on the remain side of things, even though she mostly didn't say anything in the hopes of thereby positioning herself as a possible successor to Cameron? What changed, or has it all been an act from day 1? I feel like 'we' voted leave so she's doing that lovely parent thing where they catch their kid smoking and then make them smoke like 100 cigs in a row. "OH YOU LIKE SMOKING DO YOU?!" level shittery.
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System Metternich posted:I thought that back during the referendum she was generally on the remain side of things, even though she mostly didn't say anything in the hopes of thereby positioning herself as a possible successor to Cameron? What changed, or has it all been an act from day 1? I think tbh she's loyal to the party and doesn't give a poo poo either way about Brexit. She'll pursue whatever drat fool idea she can if it let's her stave off or prevent the party from splitting
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tarbrush posted:I think tbh she's loyal to the party and doesn't give a poo poo either way about Brexit. She'll pursue whatever drat fool idea she can if it let's her stave off or prevent the party from splitting She's loyal to being PM and nothing else, so she will always take the action that buys her one more day regardless of what that means the day after
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Spangly A posted:ran into a cousin who works for the beeb at my uncles funeral a few months back, this was my response when she asked if I was a corbynite As someone who worked at the BBC I can attest that the level of "failing upward" is staggering
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Obliterati posted:She's loyal to being PM and nothing else, so she will always take the action that buys her one more day regardless of what that means the day after I think that arises out of the certainty that PM BoJo would split the party, but I could be wrong.
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Ika posted:Considering that the ministers seem to be assigned to departments with no regards to their knowledge about that field, that almost sounds like a good thing. this isn't really a problem
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exmarx posted:this isn't really a problem the past 9 years suggests the contrary
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The Troubles are back baby, awhoooooooo (wolf howl) https://twitter.com/nadabakos/status/1087397686431514628
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twoday posted:Trump will (or possibly already did) make a trade deal contingent upon having a hard border with Ireland so he can boost the US wall industry and promote the general concept of walls o the world stage bold of you to assume that trump knows about northern ireland
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brugroffil posted:The Troubles are back baby, awhoooooooo (wolf howl) Dissident bombings aren't new and have nothing to do with Brexit.
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What's a good way to make some money from all the Brexit idiocy as a EU citizen? I'm mainly looking to make enough money so that I don't have to work for the rest of my life
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Smuggling? Food and medicine in and people out. Be sure to only deal in gold bullion for payment.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:What's a good way to make some money from all the Brexit idiocy as a EU citizen? I'm mainly looking to make enough money so that I don't have to work for the rest of my life Be connected to those in the government who will be in charge of selling off state owned assets
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:What's a good way to make some money from all the Brexit idiocy as a EU citizen? I'm mainly looking to make enough money so that I don't have to work for the rest of my life In ascending order of profitability: Consulting work for corporates on how to best flee the UK to other tax havens, scavenging instructor, ferry-sans-ferry entrepreneurship.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:What's a good way to make some money from all the Brexit idiocy as a EU citizen? I'm mainly looking to make enough money so that I don't have to work for the rest of my life Invent some sort of grift (like those who sell this Brexit emergency pack ot w/e) and go on from there
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I absolutely don’t get it, do the hardcore no-dealers have some dirt on her or does she truly prefer ruling over the ashes or what
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System Metternich posted:I absolutely don’t get it, do the hardcore no-dealers have some dirt on her or does she truly prefer ruling over the ashes or what She wants someone else to make the decision for her. Just like Corbyn, she's stuck in zugswang where any move splits her party. Her only play is for someone else to take the fall.
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but her party and her political career are doomed regardless, the principled thing to do would be to dive on the hand grenade and save what can still be saved which of course will never happen lol
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Theresa May bursting through a glass ceiling labeled "Neville Chamberlain", face slashed and bleeding from the shards: "My whole philosophy is about doing, not talking."
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ANthony eden is probably worse
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Jose posted:ANthony eden is probably worse She has time yet.
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i meant than neville chamberlain lol
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Jose posted:i meant than neville chamberlain lol The Suez Crisis was pretty bad, but the Munich Agreement was really bad.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Suez Crisis was pretty bad, but the Munich Agreement was really bad. chamberlain didn't wait to get owned a second time, he signed the agreement and britain immediately begins preparing for war. Even if this wasn't his doing he had the rodent instinct to not block building an army capable of taking on a superpower, dooming the uk to bankruptcy and buying time to survive while stalin saved europe if the suez crisis had ended with Eden's government waving ten gallon hats, whoopin' and hollerin' "Empire forever" as the nukes they rode dropped on every single US military base then yeah, it's a fair comparison. It didn't though
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Jose posted:funny how they're all tories 
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Spangly A posted:if the suez crisis had ended with Eden's government waving ten gallon hats, whoopin' and hollerin' "Empire forever" as the nukes they rode dropped on every single US military base then yeah, it's a fair comparison. It didn't though Britain deserved to lose.
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