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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean outside Broly they haven’t brought much old poo poo back and Broly was always unique in how popular he was. There ain’t no other non canon poo poo that gets even close to him. I think if anyone comes close its Cooler, and even then Broly is more notorious by a country mile. Maybe Janemba gets third by virtue of being pretty distinct and original?
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The Bee posted:I think if anyone comes close its Cooler, and even then Broly is more notorious by a country mile. Maybe Janemba gets third by virtue of being pretty distinct and original? Janemba wasn't distinct nor original, he was basically a Buu rerash, but his animation was gorgeouss that is what made him be something to be remembered, otherwise he is pretty forgotable
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Jan 21, 2019 22:15
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CharlestheHammer posted:That’s.....not a great message if you think about it. Allow me to rephrase: bully assholes only care about their power and don’t take into account the might of others
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Jan 21, 2019 22:16
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Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Tapion and Hoi/Hirudegarn come back, but done better. Movie 13 almost works as it is, though that ending is so dumb.
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Jan 21, 2019 22:19
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Captain Quack posted:Janemba wasn't distinct nor original, he was basically a Buu rerash, but his animation was gorgeouss that is what made him be something to be remembered, otherwise he is pretty forgotable Buu didn't portal spam, explode into legos, or use a blood sword.. His role was absolutely a Buu rehash, but at least his power set is more distinct than, say, Lord Slug. Who is literally just King Piccolo with an amazing jawline. Or Turles, who is just Raditz-Vegeta with Goku hair. And does Android 13 even do anything of note besides a savage dick punch? The Bee fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Jan 21, 2019 22:21
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The Bee posted:Buu didn't portal spam, explode into legos, or use a blood sword.. His role was absolutely a Buu rehash, but at least his power set is more distinct than, say, Lord Slug. Who is literally just King Piccolo with an amazing jawline. Or Turles, who is just Raditz-Vegeta with Goku hair. And does Android 13 even do anything of note besides a savage dick punch? Too me was basically the equivalent of buu stretching/throwing his limbs and exploding into goo/smoke, once again what made Janemba work was the purely the animation (the lego stuff etc)... But yeah I give you the sword...
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Jan 21, 2019 22:32
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The Bee posted:Buu didn't portal spam, explode into legos, or use a blood sword.. His role was absolutely a Buu rehash, but at least his power set is more distinct than, say, Lord Slug. Who is literally just King Piccolo with an amazing jawline. Or Turles, who is just Raditz-Vegeta with Goku hair. And does Android 13 even do anything of note besides a savage dick punch? Savage ball punch
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Jan 21, 2019 22:38
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a neat cape posted:So how does Vegeta learn how to sense power levels There was this one scene that was probably anime filler when Yamcha is fighting the Saibaman, when Piccolo explains to Gohan how to sense energy, so Gohan can track the fight. Maybe Vegeta could hear what Piccolo was saying and decided to learn along with Gohan. Vegeta also mentions that he is able to learn how to do it while on Earth, and the Piccolo explanation seems to be the only time there is ever a tutorial he could have used. Either that or he can just copy techniques after seeing/hearing/experiencing them like Cell/Majin Buu.
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Jan 21, 2019 22:41
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nonrev posted:There was this one scene that was probably anime filler when Yamcha is fighting the Saibaman, when Piccolo explains to Gohan how to sense energy, so Gohan can track the fight. Maybe Vegeta could hear what Piccolo was saying and decided to learn along with Gohan. Copying techniques by observation seems to be a saiyan specialty, and Vegeta in particular is preternaturally skilled at it
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Jan 21, 2019 22:50
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Calaveron posted:Copying techniques by observation seems to be a saiyan specialty, and Vegeta in particular is preternaturally skilled at it It's basically how Goku created his entire moveset. At least Vegeta combines his copying with some actual creativity (even if all of his moves are ultimately big beams, with the occasional big ball).
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Jan 21, 2019 23:04
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Blaze Dragon posted:It's basically how Goku created his entire moveset. At least Vegeta combines his copying with some actual creativity (even if all of his moves are ultimately big beams, with the occasional big ball). I mean Vegeta achieved divinity just by looking at it and really, really wanting it, entirely skipping what was thought to be a vital, completely necessary step of it
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Jan 21, 2019 23:15
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The anime also paints it that he got Super by really, really wanting it and crying and throwing a fit until he got it.
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Jan 21, 2019 23:16
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Hell he stole the Destructo Disk in the very arc he premiered in. Vegeta the Prince of all Copyright Infringement
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Jan 21, 2019 23:18
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He probably could’ve achieved ultra instinct if he wasn’t figuratively about to be shoved into a blender
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Jan 21, 2019 23:20
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Mandrel posted:the not being able to sense ki was always so weird to think about mechanics wise. how can it be possible to harness and control your energy to make energy blasts and fly and all that wild poo poo, as well as fight and anticipate other opponents ki attacks, without apparently being able to sense other’s ki at all? the learning to suppress it makes more sense as a trick not everybody might learn or think to do, but somebody as strong as Frieza or Vegeta in the early days relying on scouters is bizarre same reason goku couldn't sense energy but figured out the kamehameha in 2 minutes.
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Kild posted:same reason goku couldn't sense energy but figured out the kamehameha in 2 minutes. To be fair, it doesn't seem very hard. Just do the hand things and say the magic word.
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One of my favorite moments of the Broly movie is Gine telling Bardock that caring his kid is out of character for a Saiyan dad. This is right after 20 minutes of King Vegeta and Paragus obsessing over their sons.
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Jan 21, 2019 23:59
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Professor Wayne posted:One of my favorite moments of the Broly movie is Gine telling Bardock that caring his kid is out of character for a Saiyan dad. This is right after 20 minutes of King Vegeta and Paragus obsessing over their sons. I think she meant loving him.
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Calaveron posted:I mean Vegeta achieved divinity just by looking at it and really, really wanting it, entirely skipping what was thought to be a vital, completely necessary step of it Vegeta trained under Whis to achieve Blue though, it wasn't just out of desire to do it. He still managed to reach that level without the ritual which is amazing when Beerus downright states it would've been impossible for Goku, but what caused that breakthrough was very much Whis' unconventional training. Flytrap posted:The anime also paints it that he got Super by really, really wanting it and crying and throwing a fit until he got it. Vegeta is the Legendary Super Saiyan, a mighty warrior that appears once every thousand years. As the legend states, he got it by...oh, by whining really hard about it like a baby. Not even a big baby, the midget, just a baby. Why do people like Z-Vegeta over Super-Vegeta again? Professor Wayne posted:One of my favorite moments of the Broly movie is Gine telling Bardock that caring his kid is out of character for a Saiyan dad. This is right after 20 minutes of King Vegeta and Paragus obsessing over their sons. There's a really big difference between both examples. King Vegeta and Paragus only see their children as tools to continue their own glory, as shown by Paragus treating Broly like poo poo afterwards, he never cared about Broly as a person, only as a tool, and Broly getting sent away from the planet was a blow to his ego rather than triggering parental rage. King Vegeta merely wanted a successor that could truly live up to the Saiyan throne and stood out amongst the Saiyans, as shown by the fact that he gets really angry at the idea that someone else could be even greater. Bardock never cared about Kakarot's power, in fact, he's quick to point out his son's going to live and die as a low-class warrior, much like Bardock himself. He still wanted him to survive and risked betraying Freeza for his son's life.
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Honestly the biggest revelation of the movie for me, personally, is finally knowing how the hell to pronounce Gine.
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Flytrap posted:The anime also paints it that he got Super by really, really wanting it and crying and throwing a fit until he got it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcp3tZ3XFyQ
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Flytrap posted:Honestly the biggest revelation of the movie for me, personally, is finally knowing how the hell to pronounce Gine. Gine or Gine?
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It is nuts how much better the DBS manga got once it moved on to an original story
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Calaveron posted:Gine or Gine? Gee-nay.
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Blockhouse posted:It is nuts how much better the DBS manga got once it moved on to an original story Toriyama may be more involved now that he doesn't need to provide a skeleton for two different things and can focus entirely on molding his successor properly. It may also simply be Toyotaro evolving and realizing how Dragon Ball should be, but it's way too much of an improvement, both the panel composition and the characterization are far better than they were merely one arc ago, while the pacing is a lot more even than how brisk the Tournament of Power was. That said, it's still clearly Toyotaro behind it, some of his usuals still show, like this particular pose: https://twitter.com/ZankyeGaming/status/1087104658722775040 but even in this character, Vegeta is far closer to Toriyama/Toei's Vegeta than Toyotaro's own, and thank Kami for that. Hopefully he won't waste this goodwill like he's done before and these improvements are here to stay, because we don't have an anime now. This is our one source of Dragon Ball (beyond SDBH but...that's even worse, and it's one thing that was far better under Toyotaro) so if it can keep up this level of quality, both while we wait for the return of the anime or a movie, and forevermore, then I have no complaints.
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The Bee posted:I think if anyone comes close its Cooler, and even then Broly is more notorious by a country mile. Maybe Janemba gets third by virtue of being pretty distinct and original? and up until now Gogeta as well. and I’d say SSJ4 poo poo is up there with Broly
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Wasn't there something about Toriyama being Toyotaro's editor now? Before he put everything into the anime and just kinda never gave a gently caress about what Toyo was doing, now he might be right there.
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Flytrap posted:Gee-nay. Should’ve been like aubergine
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I really want to see the alternate universe where Frieza doesn't destroy the planet and Barock has to go retrieve Goku like he promised.
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Rhonne posted:I really want to see the alternate universe where Frieza doesn't destroy the planet and Barock has to go retrieve Goku like he promised. Raditz being followed up by Bardock instead of Vegeta would certainly bea very interesting twist, that's for sure.
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The Bee posted:Raditz being followed up by Bardock instead of Vegeta would certainly bea very interesting twist, that's for sure. Bardock: "Which one of you killed my son!" Piccolo: "Well technically I killed both of your sons.'
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The latest DBM is kinda funny. http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-1539.html
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New Leaf posted:The latest DBM is kinda funny. It's probably the only good page I've ever seen in DBM, yeah. I'm surprised the person behind this can actually do some comedy considering how he comes across in other stuff.
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Just watched the movie. It was pretty fun, lots of good punchmans stuff. Power creep is a hell of a drug but whatever, I got what I was expecting.
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Maple Leaf posted:Just watched the movie. It was pretty fun, lots of good punchmans stuff. Power creep is a hell of a drug but whatever, I got what I was expecting. Power Creep ironically did not come up in the movie. Everyone is weaker than the last arc's big opponent.
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Speaking of bad fan stuff I fell down a rabbit hole of bad fan animation stuff on youtube. Now I know what Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta looks like.
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Bumper Stickup posted:Speaking of bad fan stuff I fell down a rabbit hole of bad fan animation stuff on youtube. Now I know what Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t-LYV2iG4c
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Next day off from work I'm gonna grab a pizza and watch bad fan stuff on youtube all day.
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It's neat how the existence of the new film makes rof even more worthless
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Stairmaster posted:It's neat how the existence of the new film makes rof even more worthless What's funny is, if you changed the ending JUST SLIGHTLY so that Freeza doesn't get murked, RoF could have lead directly into this one and ignored all of Super
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