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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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Luckyellow posted:I like Inslee too. Is anyone here from Washington that could tell us why I shouldn't? I'm from Washington and he's alright, but his inability to pass a carbon tax not once but twice in what is one of the most left-leaning states in the nation should probably factor into your judgement.
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reignonyourparade posted:I'm from Washington and couldn't tell you anything about whether you should or shouldn't like Inslee, which kinda tells you what kind of chance he has. So he doesn't have any baggage or negative issues? That sounds like the perfect candidate! No, really. I'll might be rooting for him until someone manages to find something lovely in his record that I missed.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:03
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Pushing for a carbon tax, unless it was exclusively aimed at, like, private jets, seems like a negative to me.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:04
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Inslee sounds like he might be a good VP. His executive experience helps balance the ticket, and he can lead the climate change fight.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:05
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Carbon tax has bombed as political concept everywhere in North America except the west coast for some reason.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:07
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Man this is really bad https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1087514447458062336?s=21
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Jan 22, 2019 04:16
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theblackw0lf posted:Man this is really bad This sucks, but "tough on crime" bullshit was a pretty universal problem.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:17
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Joe Biden vigorously sucks for much more recent reasons.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:20
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Raskolnikov38 posted:~be the change you want to see~ I was told to not vote for Stalin because he has 69 votes
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Jan 22, 2019 04:23
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Pylons posted:This sucks, but "tough on crime" bullshit was a pretty universal problem. Few candidates have one of their previous horrible stances encapsulated and on tape that clearly though.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:28
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1087371514427699200 People should vote for country not party. If he is a better candidate (I know nothing about him) then hopefully people vote for him.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:29
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Majorian posted:Few candidates have one of their previous horrible stances encapsulated and on tape that clearly though. Bernie's solution for the sentencing disparity between crack cocaine and powder cocaine was to raise the minimums for powder cocaine. I don't think there's a candidate running that was active in politics back during that time and *didn't* have a lovely "tough on crime" stance.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:30
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Enigma89 posted:People should vote for country not party. If he is a better candidate (I know nothing about him) then hopefully people vote for him. All him being in the race would do is make sure Trump gets reelected.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:30
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Enigma89 posted:If he is a better candidate he is not
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Jan 22, 2019 04:31
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theblackw0lf posted:Inslee sounds like he might be a good VP. His executive experience helps balance the ticket, and he can lead the climate change fight. Im OK with Inslee as the Climate Change Guy, but he's a garbage VP from an electoral standpoint. Shoring up the dangerously purple states of...Oregon and Washington?
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Jan 22, 2019 04:32
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Enigma89 posted:People should vote for country not party. If he is a better candidate (I know nothing about him) then hopefully people vote for him. Lol oh yeah I’m sure the Starbucks CEO who is fabulously wealthy and running third party to spoil the anti-Trump dipshit centrist vote is a “better candidate” than... anyone.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:34
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Unoriginal Name posted:Im OK with Inslee as the Climate Change Guy, but he's a garbage VP from an electoral standpoint. The electoral advantage of VPs is overstated anyway, but Inslee shouldn't be VP because he is even more boring and bland than Tim Kaine.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:34
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Unoriginal Name posted:Im OK with Inslee as the Climate Change Guy, but he's a garbage VP from an electoral standpoint. I'm genuinely not sure how much that matters. Balancing out the candidate's perceived weaknesses like Biden covering Obama for experience and skin tone or Pence coving for Trump's religious credentials seems to be way more important than regionalism now: see Tim Kaine.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:35
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Unoriginal Name posted:Im OK with Inslee as the Climate Change Guy, but he's a garbage VP from an electoral standpoint. When has that been a factor? I doubt that picking a VP from a red state is going to magically make it blue.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:37
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I'm pretty sure that the prevailing thought on VPs is that they don't really do much to help the ticket in any case.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:39
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fool_of_sound posted:I'm genuinely not sure how much that matters. Balancing out the candidate's perceived weaknesses like Biden covering Obama for experience and skin tone or Pence coving for Trump's religious credentials seems to be way more important than regionalism now: see Tim Kaine. I'm telling you guys, Barbara Lee is gonna be Bernie's running mate, and it's gonna own.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:39
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Gripweed posted:I'm telling you guys, Barbara Lee is gonna be Bernie's running mate, and it's gonna own.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:40
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Gripweed posted:I'm telling you guys, Barbara Lee is gonna be Bernie's running mate, and it's gonna own. I don’t think this is actually likely and also I think it would probably be a net loss. Barbara Lee should be Speaker of the House.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:42
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Luckyellow posted:So he doesn't have any baggage or negative issues? That sounds like the perfect candidate! Rather I meant, I have no idea if he has any baggage or negative issues, because hes a non-entity.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:43
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fool_of_sound posted:yea but this thread is about american elections and not the imminent global stalinist revolution so i'm not sure why you're here everybody needs a reminder now and then.
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Jan 22, 2019 04:47
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Pylons posted:It should probably be someone younger, given Bernie's age. If you want to maintain ideological consistency, I'd sooner go with Ro Khanna. I really think he's gonna go with a woman of color Lightning Knight posted:I don’t think this is actually likely and also I think it would probably be a net loss. Barbara Lee should be Speaker of the House. fair point
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Jan 22, 2019 04:51
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VP should be someone who helps address the weaknesses the nominee brings to the actual presidency, not the campaign. Bernie should bring in someone who is a really effective manager, which is why I lean towards a governor or mayor since that’s more of a managerial role. vvvvvvv good point theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Jan 22, 2019 04:57
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theblackw0lf posted:It’s interesting we have no Governors running. What current or former Democratic governor is in a position to run? All of them are either old (Jerry Brown and Mark Dayton), extremely unpopular in their home state (Raimondo and Ige), ideologically out of step with the national party (Hickenlooper and Bullock) or are just entering office (Evers, Murphy, and Whitmar). All you really have is Inslee, who is a virtual non-entity. The last decade has been devastating to Democrats at the state level. It’s true that governorships are a great stepping stone to the presidency but Democrats are at an almost unprecedented low when it comes to control of governor’s mansions QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Jan 22, 2019 04:57
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Where are all the Democratic governors, asks the party that focused exclusively on the presidency for the past decade.
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Jan 22, 2019 05:11
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Oh Snapple! posted:Pushing for a carbon tax, unless it was exclusively aimed at, like, private jets, seems like a negative to me. Why?
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Jan 22, 2019 05:50
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Bernie’s VP needs to be young, and ideally a woman.
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Jan 22, 2019 05:55
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I would say Stacey Abrams is a great VP pick for Bernie if she wasn’t running for Senate
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Jan 22, 2019 05:58
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Yeah a Bernie VP needs at least three of young, woman, minority, and already popular with hillary-types.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:01
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QuoProQuid posted:What current or former Democratic governor is in a position to run? All of them are either old (Jerry Brown and Mark Dayton), extremely unpopular in their home state (Raimondo and Ige), ideologically out of step with the national party (Hickenlooper and Bullock) or are just entering office (Evers, Murphy, and Whitmar). All you really have is Inslee, who is a virtual non-entity. Cuomo will run. He’s been pretending to not be a total shithead a bit too much lately, so he’s got to be up to something.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:02
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Lumpy posted:Cuomo will run. He’s been pretending to not be a total shithead a bit too much lately, so he’s got to be up to something. Cuomo specifically said he wasn't running in pretty strong terms, but I guess that could always change.
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I'm still thinking Nina Turner because everyone would love watching donut twitter completely melt down.fool_of_sound posted:Yeah a Bernie VP needs at least three of young, woman, minority, and already popular with hillary-types. The #stillwithher crowd are absolutely going to consider Bernie's VP pick a traitor and probably get amazingly racist about it.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:09
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The #stillwithher crowd are absolutely going to consider Bernie's VP pick a traitor and probably get amazingly racist about it. I didn't mean them, I meant more like, older white democrats who aren't super-online #resistance members.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:15
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fool_of_sound posted:I didn't mean them, I meant more like, older white democrats who aren't super-online #resistance members. Luckily, those demographics will tend to vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is. Obviously having a VP pick that appeals to them won't hurt though.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:17
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Ghost Leviathan posted:
I enjoy that these people are just taken as a necessary part of the landscape and not just some hybrid chud that isn’t destroyed on the spot.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:
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