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Tim Whatley posted:This is a borderline crime against humanity but after 20 years I finally started The Sopranos and I now know where every single Italian American stereotype has come from. I'm glad I get to enjoy it on a binge for the first time. gabagool
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Tim Whatley posted:This is a borderline crime against humanity but after 20 years I finally started The Sopranos and I now know where every single Italian American stereotype has come from. I'm glad I get to enjoy it on a binge for the first time. From the 30+ years of Scorsese movies that predated it? It's a fantastic series. You'll enjoy it. Sad that Gandolfini passed. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Filthy Hans posted:There was some real torture porn on the networks for a while there, first Law & Order: SVU and then the really heinous poo poo like Criminal Minds I know you're making a joke (it's funny) but I still can't believe Hannibal aired on network TV.
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I usually don't like mob poo poo, but the Sopranos totally deserves it's reputation as one of the best television shows ever made. Sort of related, and I'll probably catch crap for this. But I just rewatched Goodfellas on HBO for the first time in like 20 years and didn't think it was very good. I guess it's memorable and had some good performances, but it was overall just kind of cheesy and annoying tbh. Entertaining though.
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Saw the Netflix Fyre Festival and whoa that was something. I remember following the fallout from the thread here in something awful but i didn't know just how awful the planning was. Loved it how when they brought up the tweets of people being there they had one of my favorite appropriately named songs from Furi playing in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHOQD2upGBU
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Basebf555 posted:We've regressed since those years, as far as network television goes. All of the boundary pushing content went to the streaming services, but before that you had big network shows like NYPD Blue just throwing out curse words and even nudity and if it was a big enough hit they were allowed to do it. Someonr else mentioned Hannibal as well, and that was just regular NBC.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Are you sure you're just not desensitized? FX has absolutely nutso things happening on American Horror Story, with extreme violence, language, and sex. Don't want to speak for Basebf, but the big three networks (NBC, CBS, ABC) aren't putting out FX or AMC type shows, Hannibal being the one outlier, and that lasted 3(?) seasons? They just aren't putting out shows those shows and haven't for a long time. Something like "The Blacklist" doesn't come close, at least not to me. I could be wrong but The Shield was the first show that was that level crazy for basic cable of any network.
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I'm finally getting around to finishing the first season of Halt and Catch Fire and I'm really digging it. Is there ever a decline in quality in later seasons or is it pretty much consistent all the way through?
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Fargin Icehole posted:Saw the Netflix Fyre Festival and whoa that was something. I remember following the fallout from the thread here in something awful but i didn't know just how awful the planning was. Got a link to that thread?
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Crows Turn Off posted:Someonr else mentioned Hannibal as well, and that was just regular NBC. “Hello, standards and practices? We’d like to have two naked murder victims with the flesh on their backs flayed and spread out like wings, with all the bloody muscle and stuff visible” “Okay, but no butt cracks”
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Katz’s mandolined and wet-mounted body is still one of the most hosed up things I’ve ever seen on a show.
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The netflix Fyre doc was great and I hope the people from the Bahamas got some out of being interviewed, but if I have to listen one more time how this dude was sooooooo charismatic and visionary... you all got played, he's not exactly a criminal mastermind, yet somehow this one guy got played so bad he was ready to suck dick at command.
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He loving threw them all for a loop, and they still love him. "I hope he doesn't go to prison for this.  "
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I'm finally getting around to finishing the first season of Halt and Catch Fire and I'm really digging it. Is there ever a decline in quality in later seasons or is it pretty much consistent all the way through? It seemed a lot people (audience and critics) thought the 1st season was so-so, and that the show didn't hit it's stride until season 2. Myself I thought every season was great, and it is one of the best TV shows of the last decade. So to answer your question there is no decline, if anything an increase in quality.
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Streaming services allowing for more mature content reminds me of Star Trek Discovery dropping an F-Bomb and the new season of Young Justice having a violent graphic deaths compilation posted by a fan on YouTube.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I'm finally getting around to finishing the first season of Halt and Catch Fire and I'm really digging it. Is there ever a decline in quality in later seasons or is it pretty much consistent all the way through? If anything it gets better. This show is criminally underrated, it's up there with the best of AMC's prestige stuff.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I'm finally getting around to finishing the first season of Halt and Catch Fire and I'm really digging it. Is there ever a decline in quality in later seasons or is it pretty much consistent all the way through? I initially did not like the first season that much. It just felt vicious and kinda exhausting. However, it becomes more and more profound over time. The writing is really great, and the cast just brings it home every episode. One of the few shows where I could sympathize with every single character. Yeah, like the above poster said, criminally underrated show.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Are you sure you're just not desensitized? FX has absolutely nutso things happening on American Horror Story, with extreme violence, language, and sex. Violence you can find all over the place yea, but sex and language I think is rarer today and getting more rare as time goes by. The big networks are kinda all-in on certain demographics. Especially nudity, for a while in the late 90's it seemed like we were headed towards a more relaxed attitude towards nudity but it's gone the other way in recent years.
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Mr. Toodles posted:Don't want to speak for Basebf, but the big three networks (NBC, CBS, ABC) aren't putting out FX or AMC type shows, Hannibal being the one outlier, and that lasted 3(?) seasons? They just aren't putting out shows those shows and haven't for a long time. Something like "The Blacklist" doesn't come close, at least not to me. That's mainly down to two things, 1. the growth in prevalence of parents tv council groups during the Bush administration. If they saw anything they didn't like they run off a chain letter and have everyone associated with the group print and sign a copy and flood the FCC. This led to big fines for networks from a conservative friendly FCC, whether the complaint was true or not. 2. With networks getting a little gunshy and cable channels wanting to chase HBO's Sopranos money they started offering more money and freedom to do what they wanted since cable isn't regulated by the FCC for content.
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Basebf555 posted:Violence you can find all over the place yea, but sex and language I think is rarer today and getting more rare as time goes by. The big networks are kinda all-in on certain demographics. Especially nudity, for a while in the late 90's it seemed like we were headed towards a more relaxed attitude towards nudity but it's gone the other way in recent years. Janet Jackson's nipple at the Super Bowl was the turning point.
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Enos Cabell posted:Janet Jackson's nipple at the Super Bowl was the turning point. Yeah, America is all about being prudish in public
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Basebf555 posted:Violence you can find all over the place yea, but sex and language I think is rarer today and getting more rare as time goes by. Even Syfy and USA allow unedited "fucks." Not sure about some other stations, there are only a couple of TV shows I watch. Broadcast stations are different, they'll always be terrible.
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Yea I mean if shows are using the word gently caress and showing nudity on SyFy and USA then I guess I'm just wrong, but I really was not aware that was happening. What shows are we talking about?
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I mean if shows are using the word gently caress and showing nudity on SyFy and USA then I guess I'm just wrong, but I really was not aware that was happening. What shows are we talking about? mystes fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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You should watch Happy regardless because it fuckin owns
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Field Mousepad posted:You should watch Happy regardless because it fuckin owns Yeah, I've watched the first 2 episodes and it owns so far
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I mean if shows are using the word gently caress and showing nudity on SyFy and USA then I guess I'm just wrong, but I really was not aware that was happening. What shows are we talking about? My mind is blanking on the shows but gently caress got "unlocked" in the last 18 months or so, I feel. It was notable when it was used in last season of Sunny, and I feel that once whatever the starter show was started using it (possibly Atlanta?) use of the word spread extremely rapidly. I don't see the networks blurting out fucks any time soon but I think the standards are less of a consistent trend and more of a tidal action; some types of shows become more popular in a given year and they may not really feature sex and violence as core themes that would warrant graphic content.
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Parachute posted:basic cable nudity means theres a 90% chance you will see man rear end man rear end isn't my thing, but I'm ok with it
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was there a warning when dennis franz showed his backside on abc in like 1998?
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Zachack posted:My mind is blanking on the shows but gently caress got "unlocked" in the last 18 months or so, I feel. It was notable when it was used in last season of Sunny, and I feel that once whatever the starter show was started using it (possibly Atlanta?) use of the word spread extremely rapidly. Syfy and USA are also allowing it pretty much whenever now. Even The Magicians on Syfy made an announcement when they were no longer forced to censor "gently caress." Parachute posted:was there a warning when dennis franz showed his backside on abc in like 1998? Crows Turn Off fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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I just remember the first time I heard "bitch" on TV, it was an episode of The X-Files
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Iron Crowned posted:I just remember the first time I heard "bitch" on TV, it was an episode of The X-Files If I remember correctly, wasn't it even a slighlty watered down "son of a bitch"?
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Alterian posted:If I remember correctly, wasn't it even a slighlty watered down "son of a bitch"? I remember son of a bitch being almost AD Skinner's catchphrase. He called everyone a son of a bitch, but mostly Cigarette Smoking Man and Mulder. That's a pretty good early clue that they are father and son actually, they both have the ability to piss Skinner off just by existing.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Even Syfy and USA allow unedited "fucks." Not sure about some other stations, there are only a couple of TV shows I watch. Can we get a directors cut of the entirety of Battlestar Galactica now?
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I watched The Devil We Know, the Fyre Festival (Netflix) documentary, and the Bill Murray stories documentary Would recommend all three but the first one was like...drat. Santheb fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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Oh hey, Ballad of Buster Scruggs got nominated for an Oscar for best song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MA4qCoa69o Spoiler for stupid video preview
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Jose Oquendo posted:Viacom just purchased Pluto TV, so expect that to go in the shitter. What would the business model be for a new Pluto.tv?
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Gallatin posted:What would the business model be for a new Pluto.tv? In a perfect world, it would remain an ad supported platform with some good content from Viacom. Like, a Star Trek channel would be cool. But knowing them, they'll probably dump all the good poo poo and change it to a pay service.
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