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StrixNebulosa posted:There's a new godawful game out called YIIK. The diegetic comments about the spooky video seem pretty realistic. If it involves a woman, some CHUD is gonna dump on her looks. The only unbelievable part is that nobody brought up Hitler or (((globalism))).
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xtal posted:Elisa Lam was also prominently featured in the story of the Black Tapes podcast. Or that other one they make. I forget. I believe it was controversial in this thread at the time. One of the early episodes of Tanis uses it, but it only shows up as a passing reference one time. They beep out her name so it's not explicitly stated who they're talking about, but it's painfully obvious that it's talking about Elisa Lam. Not sure if they edited more out, but it's not part of the ongoing story.
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Jan 22, 2019 23:14
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Azathoth posted:One of the early episodes of Tanis uses it, but it only shows up as a passing reference one time. They beep out her name so it's not explicitly stated who they're talking about, but it's painfully obvious that it's talking about Elisa Lam. Not sure if they edited more out, but it's not part of the ongoing story. When it first came out they definitely did not bleep her out, and they spent a fair amount of time talking about her and how she died because she stumbled on whatever dumb bullshit that was about. Between that and the part that just blatantly ripped off House Of Leaves, I dropped Tanis pretty quickly.
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Jan 23, 2019 00:33
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Azathoth posted:The only "mysterious" part of the story is how she got up and in to the water tank, and that's pretty easily explained by the hotel covering it's rear end and saying that everything was secure when it absolutely was not.
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Jan 23, 2019 00:43
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What's the statue of limitations before you can use a murder victim in your lovely horror fiction? James Ellroy's novel was forty years after the Black Dahlia murder.
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Labes for days posted:We were so moved by this person’s tragic death that we chose to include it in our game in the most tasteless way possible! This is the exact reason I was so pissed off at LA Noire.  Note to crime writers: DON'T SOLVE REAL MURDERS IN FICTIONAL STORIES YOU ASSHOLES
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Jan 23, 2019 00:46
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Dewgy posted:This is the exact reason I was so pissed off at LA Noire. a chorus of derivative hacks screeches in unison about their unique and definitive take on jack the ripper ("time traveler!", "rogue cop!", "Italian!") but their cries fall on deaf ears
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christmas boots posted:a chorus of derivative hacks screeches in unison about their unique and definitive take on jack the ripper ("time traveler!", "rogue cop!", "Italian!") but their cries fall on deaf ears Being fair I liked Shadow Man's take on that but it was fantastical enough that it didn't matter.
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Jan 23, 2019 00:49
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I’m not saying no one can do Jack the Ripper, but everyone has done Jack the Ripper.
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Huh. As soon as I saw the cartoon picture, I guessed what it was due to the composition and the similar looking girl. I guess that sort of thing stands out more or less to different people. Maybe because I found the original footage so creepy it stuck in my mind.
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Jan 23, 2019 01:06
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Thwomp posted:True Crime stories tend to just retell the story of the incident. I mean, there's plenty of scummy True Crime out there too, lauding the killers and long lurid descriptions of their crimes that were clearly written one-handed. christmas boots posted:What's the statue of limitations before you can use a murder victim in your lovely horror fiction? James Ellroy's novel was forty years after the Black Dahlia murder. Probably at least waiting until the people related to the victim are dead so you're not compounding real people's grief with your lovely fanfiction. Though this does get hard to determine since Jack the Ripper keeps time-traveling into new serial killers.
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The weird thing to me here, I was just browsing the PSN and had seen that game. It looked bad, and now I have even better reason to avoid it. There are some fantastical/unexplained stories you can use in your games/movies/books; Jack the Ripper (as previously mentioned), is one such example, but using something like that is... Wrong. I can't explain why using old hooker killing Jack is fine, but that's a lovely way to use a real world mystery, especially if you claim it was important to you, or whatever that guy said.
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I think the romanticisation of Jack the Ripper is pretty hosed up. I live in the East End of London and there's a tonne of tacky merch and touristy stuff about the killings. It's gross.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:When it first came out they definitely did not bleep her out, and they spent a fair amount of time talking about her and how she died because she stumbled on whatever dumb bullshit that was about. Between that and the part that just blatantly ripped off House Of Leaves, I dropped Tanis pretty quickly. The cherry on top was that I think they created an interview statement with a fictional friend saying that Elisa wasn't taking any psych medications and that she wasn't suffering from any illnesses. That's a special type of crossing the line. I was getting a weird urge to try Tanis again, and I'm glad this is curing it. That whole first season loved to do stuff like that. Elliot Smith - killed himself because Tanis hosed with his head. Lyle Stevik - killed for getting deep into Tanis (they even had a later plot point hinge around there being a key hidden at the motel). The Elisa Lam case just feels even worse to reference because conspiracy and true crime nerds would just not let it lie so it still feels recent.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:The cherry on top was that I think they created an interview statement with a fictional friend saying that Elisa wasn't taking any psych medications and that she wasn't suffering from any illnesses. That's a special type of crossing the line. I was getting a weird urge to try Tanis again, and I'm glad this is curing it. That whole first season loved to do stuff like that. Elliot Smith - killed himself because Tanis hosed with his head. Lyle Stevik - killed for getting deep into Tanis (they even had a later plot point hinge around there being a key hidden at the motel). Oh yeah, they made a huge thing of her friend who totally knew that she wasn’t actually mentally ill, she just found the horrible secret of whatever.
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Taking inspiration or whatever is fine; there are some mysteries out there that we'll never know the answers to, and using those kinds of things as a jumping off point for whatever creative endeavor you're going on is perfectly fine, but if you're using actual events, involving people that still have family to be affected, that's hosed up.
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Jan 23, 2019 02:05
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The Elisa Lam thing always just seemed more sad than creepy to me.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:The cherry on top was that I think they created an interview statement with a fictional friend saying that Elisa wasn't taking any psych medications and that she wasn't suffering from any illnesses. That's a special type of crossing the line. I was getting a weird urge to try Tanis again, and I'm glad this is curing it. That whole first season loved to do stuff like that. Elliot Smith - killed himself because Tanis hosed with his head. Lyle Stevik - killed for getting deep into Tanis (they even had a later plot point hinge around there being a key hidden at the motel). Don't get into Tanis again man, I mean, this is a guy who set his own daughter on fire at the behest of some weird fire priestess named Elisandre
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Jan 23, 2019 04:01
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Solice Kirsk posted:The Elisa Lam thing always just seemed more sad than creepy to me. It is. But her constant inclusion on creepy or horror or ghost lists is enraging.
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call center manager posted:Don't get into Tanis again man, I mean, this is a guy who set his own daughter on fire at the behest of some weird fire priestess named Elisandre What?? 
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Jan 23, 2019 04:11
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So the whole Gene edited babies thing from China has real scifi horror movie vibes to it. It was bad enough that basically everyone in China in academic position AND the government went "What the holy gently caress". Non zero chance he gets executed for it.
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Randaconda posted:What?? He got fired shortly afterwards
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Jan 23, 2019 04:27
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Telsa Cola posted:So the whole Gene edited babies thing from China has real scifi horror movie vibes to it. It was bad enough that basically everyone in China in academic position AND the government went "What the holy gently caress". I assume you’re talking about this story? I definitely would not put my money on him being around next year, given the reports of the government’s response.
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The Lone Badger posted:Isn't the whole point of Buddhism / enlightenment being to escape reincarnation? Not if you are a bodhisattva. In that case, you are committed to being born over and over again for as long as it takes for every single living being to awaken to the dharma. That was, according to the legend, the Buddha's original vow.
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christmas boots posted:What's the statue of limitations before you can use a murder victim in your lovely horror fiction? James Ellroy's novel was forty years after the Black Dahlia murder. Zero days. As a rule, you can say whatever you want about dead people.
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Terrible Opinions posted:The whole black tapes expanded universe stuff is just bad. Even the main show got super dumb after season one.
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Larch posted:Not if you are a bodhisattva. In that case, you are committed to being born over and over again for as long as it takes for every single living being to awaken to the dharma. Sounds like a raw deal. This is why I don't make vows
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Larch posted:Not if you are a bodhisattva. In that case, you are committed to being born over and over again for as long as it takes for every single living being to awaken to the dharma. That sounds terrible. Imagine waiting around for the very last person to awaken and it's just taking them soooooo many lifetimes. Like, it's just you and that one last guy and he just doesn't get it over and over again. Like the kid that never understood multiples of 8 so the whole class is waiting like 10 minutes into recess until he understands, but for eternity.
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xtal posted:Elisa Lam was also prominently featured in the story of the Black Tapes podcast. Or that other one they make. I forget. I believe it was controversial in this thread at the time.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Even the main show got super dumb after season one. Solice Kirsk posted:That sounds terrible. Imagine waiting around for the very last person to awaken and it's just taking them soooooo many lifetimes. Like, it's just you and that one last guy and he just doesn't get it over and over again. Like the kid that never understood multiples of 8 so the whole class is waiting like 10 minutes into recess until he understands, but for eternity.
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Solice Kirsk posted:That sounds terrible. Imagine waiting around for the very last person to awaken and it's just taking them soooooo many lifetimes. Like, it's just you and that one last guy and he just doesn't get it over and over again. Like the kid that never understood multiples of 8 so the whole class is waiting like 10 minutes into recess until he understands, but for eternity. The nice thing is that as a Bodhisattva you won't get mad or impatient because you literally can't. All traditions I'm familiar with say the actual Shakyamuni Buddha is not a Bodhisattva, he's gone without remainder. The Bodhisattvas are other people.
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Rondette posted:This just reminded me of this, from the Schadenfreude thread What is that song and where have I heard it before?
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FireWorksWell posted:What is that song and where have I heard it before? Think that's Ennio Moricone's "Ecstasy of Gold" from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
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I didn’t realize the reward money for finding Jayme Closs came from food companies, but she’s getting the $25,000! “Hormel Foods and Jennie-O say they’ll donate the $25,000 it had offered in reward money for information leading to Jayme Closs directly to the 13-year-old girl.”
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Terrible Opinions posted:I was including the main show in this. Is it one of those tricks where if you’re not willing then you were never really enlightened after all?
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christmas boots posted:Is it one of those tricks where if you’re not willing then you were never really enlightened after all? Nope. You can peace out. You don’t have to take those vows.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/?utm_source=twb Long promised article about Bryan Singer and his numerous accusers.
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Busket Posket posted:I didn’t realize the reward money for finding Jayme Closs came from food companies, but she’s getting the $25,000! They were her parents’ employers, so it’s not as random a connection as it might seem.
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FireWorksWell posted:What is that song and where have I heard it before? ^What he said but they've also used it for a few commercials where they talk about determination and the American spirit or whatever, like for Nike or Chrysler or something.
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