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It got to the point where there’s one good line or joke per episode and you were sat there thinking, well maybe there’ll be TWO next week
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Milo and POTUS posted:It was up against an appallingly bad family guy episode and even a subpar BB episode so for the first time since it ran concurrently with those shows, Simpsons was the best Fox cartoon of the night. Bob’s Burgers has been struggling, and I want the show to be good. Last one I saw was Tina tried to build a radio to talk to aliens and the whole thing was nothing. Rewatching older episodes, Gene had a weird character evolution. He went from saying odd things to which other people reacted, to saying elaborate word play that no one seems to hear. It doesn’t work, seems to be a way for the writers to show off but hurts the story to have a non sequitur machine.
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BB's reached a comfortable point and the characters are established. It's running into a Simpsons problem where you need new characters to play off of the established ones and put them into new situations. But, for example, you know that Louise and Logan are going to get into arguments if they're in an episode. So even that has a limit. American Dad kind of spoofed that habit when the fat kid and the stoner son in law met for an episode, with all the main characters treating it like a huge thing.
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Jan 19, 2019 18:01
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Bob’s Burgers has been struggling, and I want the show to be good. Last one I saw was Tina tried to build a radio to talk to aliens and the whole thing was nothing. Louise too much of a bon mot machine now. FilthyImp posted:But, for example, you know that Louise and Logan are going to get into arguments if they're in an episode. So even that has a limit. I'm more fine with this though. Nothing wrong with a nemesis so long as its done well
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Jan 19, 2019 18:16
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Bob's Burgers passed the point where they should have started changing up the formula and status quo a bit to keep things interesting a few seasons ago. Their unflinching refusal to experiment in fear of altering the quality is impressive, but everything now runs together as bland filler. The first eight seasons of The Simpsons remain a shining example of keeping a comedy show fresh for so many reasons. First you have the fact that the showrunners were swapped out every two to three seasons, each one bringing their own style and tone to the show. Each season also evolved and expanded on the previous one and the show universe continued to expand with it. Most importantly though is the fact that this entire run is a grab bag of different episode styles, ranging from grounded, emotionally driven episodes to completely rapid-fire absurdity. With Bob's Burgers, a season 9 episode feels the same as a season 3 episode, aside from the characters yelling significantly less and there's usually a musical number now. The in-show universe doesn't feel like it has expanded at all, because they seem to have stopped establishing new recurring characters in season 3. They also all hit the exact same beats - no character or antagonist is ever truly bad or has truly bad intentions. Their drive for positivity is nice and refreshing but also cloying.
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FilthyImp posted:According to the Wiki, ratings were on a downward trend after season 2 (when it was moved to primetime Thursday). Around season 8 you've gone past the Bartman Eat My shorts stuff and it becomes a staple instead of an innovator. Man, in my little bubble, I thought that Simpsons only kept getting more and more popular and only declined when the mediocre seasons started. Funny how different perception is from reality.  Btw, RE: season 12. I was going over the episode list, and I have to say, I'm legitimately impressed there were a good number of decent episodes in there. Sure, they're not gold, but they have golden moments. - Insane Clown Poppy - A Tale of Two Springfields - Lisa the Tree Hugger - The Computer Wore Menace Shoes - Skinner's Sense of Snow - HOMR -Pokey Mom - Worst Episode Ever - Day of the Jackanapes - New Kids on the Blecch - Hungry, Hungry Homer - Simpson Safari (guess the guy who came up with episode titles was on vacation for this one) - Trilogy of Error - I'm Goin' to Praiseland (I'll admit, I'm not a huge fan of this one overall, but I have to put it on here for the previously mentioned Frank Sinatra scene) - Children of a Lesser Clod - Simpsons Tall Tales That's almost the entire season!
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Milo and POTUS posted:It was up against an appallingly bad family guy episode and even a subpar BB episode so for the first time since it ran concurrently with those shows, Simpsons was the best Fox cartoon of the night. What was bad about the family guy I havent watched in years
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Flannelette posted:We got the "Why doesn't mine look like that!?" joke out of it which has survived the ages at least. A friend and I were stranded in heavy snow somewhere near Dijon, France when our bus broke down, and the nearest place to hang out and not freeze to death while we waited for the bus to be towed/repaired/brought back was a crappy roadside diner called La Grille. So we got drunk while periodically shouting "La Grille?! What the hell is that?!"
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Uncle Wemus posted:What was bad about the family guy I havent watched in years Trump Guy (13 Jan. 2019) The Griffins move to the White House where Peter is hired as the new Press Secretary. Quotes Lois Griffin: Meg, you expect us to believe that the president of the United States would grab a woman by her pussy? That's ridiculous! 
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Sagebrush posted:Are you kidding? Season 8 is the high point of the series. It's almost entirely perfect episodes. I disagree! As I said I think there's some trash in season 8, though there are a bunch of good eps including my favourite (You only move twice), the chili episode, and the hurricane. You mentioned the laddie and Dangerfield episodes, but I also think the recycling one is pretty lame, same with the one where Lisa dates Nelson. There are small but not insignificant cracks in season 8 that I think widen in 9 and just get worse from there
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I was watching Mr. Plow (season 4) and was surprised that the later season habit of going 'Oh Hey it's Random Celebrity Person here at place!' occurred twice in that episode. First it's Adam West looking like a crazy has been at the auto show, the it's Linda Rondstat with Barney. Both are later reused for a joke (Adam gets his driveway plowed by Barney and drives away in a rickety Batmobile, Linda has a short song in a hot tub with Barney). Still, I guess I'd forgotten that celebs would shown up as themselves that early. Also, they do a trick when West is ranting where the camera slowly goes into a Dutch angle just like in the Batman Tv series. Clever.
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FilthyImp posted:I was watching Mr. Plow (season 4) and was surprised that the later season habit of going 'Oh Hey it's Random Celebrity Person here at place!' occurred twice in that episode. Also a recent rewatcher of Mr. Plow, and those celebrity cameos are different because they tell a joke that isn't "hey, I"m Adam West!" and then centering the plot around Adam West.
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Iron Crowned posted:Also a recent rewatcher of Mr. Plow, and those celebrity cameos are different because they tell a joke that isn't "hey, I"m Adam West!" and then centering the plot around Adam West. A golden age era episode that centered on Adam West actually sounds good.
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Uncle Wemus posted:What was bad about the family guy I havent watched in years Did you stop watching before or after the bit where Quagmire rapes Marge and kills all the Simpsons?
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PostNouveau posted:In the new one, Lisa meets a new friend and lies about her family because, well, for obvious reasons. I watched it per your recommendation and it was a pretty enjoyable watch. If we were to compile 12-20 episodes for a single post-se14 "season" this would make it on the list. And then all those episodes will be rerecorded to VHS and then digitally reuploaded, maybe give them some Sony Vegas filters to make it look somewhat old and crusty.
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MNIMWA posted:Dangerfield episodes That episode was amazing. 
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Razorwired posted:Did you stop watching before or after the bit where Quagmire rapes Marge and kills all the Simpsons? Ya know I think the Rocky episode was the one that finally made me lost all interest but the rush Limbaugh episode didnt help either, or the serious one about quagmires sister That or when they decided that quagmire hates Brian because of all the characters to call someone out it should be the serial rapist?
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Uncle Wemus posted:What was bad about the family guy I havent watched in years It looks like it was written by a bunch of edgelord high schoolers at a lunch table. Every character is irredeemably cruel and vulgar in some way, there's tons of blood and guts violence from cruel shock gags, and they rely really heavily on filler gags that are just people talking really slowly for ridiculous amounts of time. There's no charm in it anymore, the voices all sound like they're recorded in different booths, It's got New Simpsons' problem of dialogue being really stilted and only serving really cringey lowball jokes you see coming a mile away. I still maintain Seasons 1-3 of Family Guy are fantastic and hold up well. The others are forgettable at best, despicable at worst, and date themselves really badly.
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It very common for new a Family Guy / Simpsons episode to have a ton of filler but not an actual ending. Between that, the excessive couch gag , non-sequitur first act and longer-than-ever ad breaks the Simpsons uses up a lot of time without making doing much at all. Family Guy loves to shove in as many establishing shots as it can, even when the location hasn't changed.
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Plan Z posted:It looks like it was written by a bunch of edgelord high schoolers at a lunch table. Every character is irredeemably cruel and vulgar in some way, there's tons of blood and guts violence from cruel shock gags, and they rely really heavily on filler gags that are just people talking really slowly for ridiculous amounts of time. There's no charm in it anymore, the voices all sound like they're recorded in different booths, It's got New Simpsons' problem of dialogue being really stilted and only serving really cringey lowball jokes you see coming a mile away. I still maintain Seasons 1-3 of Family Guy are fantastic and hold up well. The others are forgettable at best, despicable at worst, and date themselves really badly. eh that’s a little unfair towards family guy, yeah there are a lot of lame cutaways and the characters are pretty lovely but I’ve laughed way more at new family guy then new simpsons
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My Linux Rig posted:eh that’s a little unfair towards family guy, yeah there are a lot of lame cutaways and the characters are pretty lovely but I’ve laughed way more at new family guy then new simpsons that's a low bar though and the fact that you don't know the difference between then and than proves you are low IQ enough to enjoy family guy
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Family Guy has been surprisingly decent this season. It feels like they kind of give a poo poo again. Re: Simpsons season 8. I do remember back when it was new thinking it was the first season to feel "off" to me, even as a kid. Many episodes have a slower pace, a somewhat bleak tone, and there's this sense that the end of the show was near so they're trying to change up the status quo a bit. They of course were way, wayyyy wrong. I still consider it one of the golden era seasons, very arguably the final one, and there are tons of classics and I don't feel that any of the episodes are downright bad.
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snack eater posted:that's a low bar though oh you got me, I hosed up grammar rules to a small and almost imperceptible way, that means I’m no better than a chimpanzee Deez nuts, bitch
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Jan 23, 2019 05:47
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You misspelled "these". See me after class.
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Is American Dad still good? It was still going really strong the last time I watched but I sort of fell out of touch with it at around the point Jeff was trying to get back from space.
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Applewhite posted:Is American Dad still good? It was still going really strong the last time I watched but I sort of fell out of touch with it at around the point Jeff was trying to get back from space. Yes, it’s still very good. The quality hasn’t dropped really at all, even after the TBS move.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Yes, it’s still very good. The quality hasn’t dropped really at all, even after the TBS move. Nice. I’m continually impressed by how tight their scripts are. Even when an individual episode isn’t uproariously funny, it’s almost always satisfying to watch, like a basketball team that focuses on the fundamentals. Maybe it doesn’t make as many flashy plays you might get with other teams, but all the players work together and nobody’s talent is wasted so it functions like a well-tuned watch. I wish they’d apply some of that to a few Orville episodes.
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I'm amazed that the Family Guy knockoff turned out better than Family Guy.
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Mr Interweb posted:I'm amazed that the Family Guy knockoff turned out better than Family Guy. Yeah I’d written it off before seeing a single episode. I didn’t find out it was good until season 3. I was pretty stunned.
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Applewhite posted:Is American Dad still good? It was still going really strong the last time I watched but I sort of fell out of touch with it at around the point Jeff was trying to get back from space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ciBWNwjsY No idea if anything else is worth a drat beyond the nihilistic Family Guy's regular feed (which I still dig as a Nihilist). I can't watch The Simpsons without feeling a dreadful sense of an even worser sense of nihilism, but y'all do you...
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I mean... that's as may be but it's still just a straight-played performance of a preexisting song, right? Where the novelty of it comes from the characters performing it? I wrote off Family Guy way back in the day right around the time they all did the "So Long, Farewell" song, and not a thing about it was altered from the original except "lol Stewie is Liesl". It's like ... it's funny because it's Peter saying "no" all aristocratic-like instead of Christopher Plummer? Ok then I get the irony and the emotional impact of the above scene and all but people in the comments saying this is on par with Futurama songs? Like, the original songs you mean?
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I hate all musical comedy and nothing makes me mute faster than when funny people start singing
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I hate all musical comedy and nothing makes me mute faster than when funny people start singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOeUXEpxzcc
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I hate all musical comedy and nothing makes me mute faster than when funny people start singing  One of the worst Simpsons episodes for me is the all singing all dancing one because I'm just embarrassed for everyone involved the whole time.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I hate all musical comedy and nothing makes me mute faster than when funny people start singing Yeah what the poo poo? Planet of the Apes: The Musical is one of the funniest things in the whole series.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I hate all musical comedy and nothing makes me mute faster than when funny people start singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM5-xFenaZI
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