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mcmagic posted:We gotta get AOC as Imperator Fixed
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Doctor Butts posted:I'm hoping that in 2020, Democratic voters will see 'reaching across the aisle' as a negative trait. i mean, i think we do already, or at least the younger/freshmen/millenial dems.
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friendbot2000 posted:Is WitSec listed as Essential? Yes - the funding is. Though THAT brings up an interesting question about those marshals - all the field officers are for sure essentials (support staff isn't always) so they are likely not getting a ton of support. I can't fathom how the day to day stuff is currently getting done.
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mcmagic posted:We gotta get AOC talking about a wealth tax.... While we're at it, let's lean into the "death tax." "Of course we're gonna take those rich fucks' money after they die. Their spoiled kids certainly don't need any more of it and I know of about 10,000 kids who could get an education with that money."
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I'm fine with that.
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Jan 23, 2019 18:07
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Democrats have no idea what to do with a winning hand. https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1088098230355853312?s=19
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DynamicSloth posted:Democrats have no idea what to do with a winning hand. This is clearly a bait to get Trump to admit the shutdown is about *his* stupid wall.
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No it isn't. This was always gonna happen. The purpose of laws like this is not that they will work but to get abortion relitigated in the Supreme Court.
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Agent Burt Macklin posted:Yes - the funding is. Though THAT brings up an interesting question about those marshals - all the field officers are for sure essentials (support staff isn't always) so they are likely not getting a ton of support. I can't fathom how the day to day stuff is currently getting done. So people who process intel regarding threats to witnesses and other analysts that keep WitSec turning might not be essential. Fantastic.
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DynamicSloth posted:Democrats have no idea what to do with a winning hand. Hasn't this been Democrats position? Money for border security, sure, but not a wall?
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Jan 23, 2019 18:09
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Reminder also that Bernie surprised everyone with an upset win in Michigan so  that Biden would sabotage the Dems there.Also Glenn Kessler: "I showed you my pinocchios, please respond"
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Jan 23, 2019 18:09
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Pylons posted:Hasn't this been Democrats position? Money for border security, sure, but not a wall? It *was* the Democrat position. Now the position should be "no business of any kind will be considered until the government is reopened".
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Jan 23, 2019 18:10
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How quickly would this resolve itself if essential presidential staff started calling in?
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No Safe Word posted:Ah yes let's ask the rich if they want to give up their money, clearly they are unbiased. Its the divine right of kings all over again but with wealth.
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Jan 23, 2019 18:11
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DynamicSloth posted:Democrats have no idea what to do with a winning hand. A reminder that Pelosi's leadership team is utter poo poo.
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Pylons posted:Hasn't this been Democrats position? Money for border security, sure, but not a wall? More along the lines of money for ports of entry, not racist monuments. We desperately need to upgrade ports of entry because our infrastructure there is loving abysmal. They are operating on refurbished Dell Optiplex PCs and Pentium 2s.... saltylopez posted:Reminder also that Bernie surprised everyone with an upset win in Michigan so This is what Kessler calls his mushroom dick
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Jan 23, 2019 18:11
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Executive staff is all pretty much loyalists anymore so them not getting paid doesn't matter to most of them. Specially since most already make enough money to not care.
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haveblue posted:It *was* the Democrat position. Now the position should be "no business of any kind will be considered until the government is reopened". I mean, I thought some amount of border security money was in the CR that's passed the house. Just not for a wall.
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5.7 is too much, and I don't really like that it's being offered but I'm not suffering directly from the shutdown yet so whatever I guess. edit: just possibility of it being offered
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DynamicSloth posted:Democrats have no idea what to do with a winning hand. Republicans and Trump will refuse, which will reinforce the notion that this is about the wall and Trump's ego, not border security. It isn't the worst idea.
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Jan 23, 2019 18:13
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Dems have previously increased their offer of additional non-wall border security since the shutdown began. This isn’t some unprecedented development. It’s obvious bait that Trump will fall for by rejecting it.
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Jan 23, 2019 18:14
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Republicans and Trump will refuse, which will reinforce the notion that this is about the wall and Trump's ego, not border security. And it kills the defense that "dems are just too cheap to pay for border security"
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Jan 23, 2019 18:15
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Pylons posted:Hasn't this been Democrats position? Money for border security, sure, but not a wall? So there really is no difference in their positions. 5.7 billion won't be enough to build a real wall anyway. 800,000 federal workers are going without pay over whether the same money spent the same way is branded a wall or not. If Trump was smart enough to take the money he'll just call whatever barriers they erect with the money his "wall" anyway.
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Jan 23, 2019 18:15
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I don't see him doing anything that shows that he's addressing his unpopularity with non-chuds.
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DynamicSloth posted:So there really is no difference in their positions. 5.7 billion won't be enough to build a real wall anyway. 800,000 federal workers are going without pay over whether the same money spent the same way is branded a wall or not. If Trump was smart enough to take the money he'll just call whatever barriers they erect with the money his "wall" anyway. "You see, it was more of a metaphorical wall"
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Pylons posted:Hasn't this been Democrats position? Money for border security, sure, but not a wall? Yeah. The 1 billion figure previously offered had 1/2 go to points of entry improvements and the rest to staffing and immigration judges
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Jan 23, 2019 18:16
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CuddleCryptid posted:"You see, it was more of a metaphorical wall" Donny has no object permanency so he would never get how a metaphor works.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Dems have previously increased their offer of additional non-wall border security since the shutdown began. This isn’t some unprecedented development. It’s obvious bait that Trump will fall for by rejecting it. The dumbest thing is that if the President were anyone but Trump, Democrats wouldn't bother. Then again, if anyone but Trump were President the government wouldn't be shut down, sooooo...
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Radish posted:https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1088074733357285377?s=19 Dang
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How much would it cost to have mimes pantomiming walls all along the border at all times?
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friendbot2000 posted:Donny has no object permanency so he would never get how a metaphor works. He does understand blatantly lying though, and it might just be enough!
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https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/1087907799151984640 https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1088069209303760896
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friendbot2000 posted:So people who process intel regarding threats to witnesses and other analysts that keep WitSec turning might not be essential. Fantastic. Support staff meaning the administrative people, assistants and secretaries I mean. Analysts and such are most certainly essential. For example - my husband’s agency has run into the issue with car insurance and have suspended field work. Except...the operations people in his office are not all essential and so they had a scramble to figure out what needed to be done to figure out the insurance situation. The name of the department which handles all that stuff for the entire government has completely slipped my mind - but they are not all essential. It’s like, the IRS is up and running but if there is no one there to do the actually work, tax returns aren’t getting done.
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Trump has never had the slightest problem calling existing barriers part of his wall and Foxnews and Rush Limbaugh aren't going to call him on it either. If Trump takes this deal he's going to look like a genius and his numbers will shoot back (to their normal 45%).
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Ralepozozaxe posted:How much would it cost to have mimes pantomiming walls all along the border at all times? Why do you want to drown hundreds of mimes in the middle of the Rio Grande River?
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Ralepozozaxe posted:How much would it cost to have mimes pantomiming walls all along the border at all times? Trump is about as smart as a bowl of porridge. Sending him grainy footage of people, dressed as migrants, pantomiming a wall in a desert landscape then telling him NASA came up with some newfangled Invis-O-Brick technology would probably loving work.
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Family Values posted:Why do you want to drown hundreds of mimes in the middle of the Rio Grande River? Why do you not?
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:Trump is about as smart as a bowl of porridge.
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