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swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Sorry, Imp Zone has already been recognized as the legitimate gaming forum on SA.

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big business man
Sep 30, 2012

the fact that aoc tweets multiple times an hour and hasn't said a peep about Venezuela is :thunk:

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Postoyevsky posted:

the fact that aoc tweets multiple times an hour and hasn't said a peep about Venezuela is :thunk:

I think they're probably deliberating on the angle to take, I hope it's at least as strong as Lee The Lad's, but if it's not, do we just give her room to operate and breathe or start on with the ruthless critique of all that exists right away?

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




well she voted in favor of nato so

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

MizPiz posted:

The good southern Lee

the good Lee from Virginia

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
i just think she might be smart enough to know that she doesnt really know a lot about the situation (no one can really blame her) and doesnt want to gently caress up and do something like compare them to the KSA lol

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

ahhhh, taste that principled pragmatism. swilling it around in my mouth a bit. mmmmm. 2008 vintage

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


MizPiz posted:

The good southern Lee

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Watched a bit of Errol Morris' series Wormwood about a CIA guy involved in bio warfare who fell out of a hotel window in New York in the 50s.

Sy Hersh is in it. Anyways Hersh found out back in the 70s that the CIA dosed the guy with LSD without his knowing before he took the plunge. This was part of the MKULTRA revelations. The story was that he threw himself out of the window while losing his mind on the drug.

Turns out that was actually a CIA cover story. To be sure, the agency did drug him, but then arranged a doctor's visit in New York and a hotel, where they sent a death squad which proceeded to throw him out of the window. The film doesn't have enough on-the-record sourcing to go further, but reading between the lines it's pretty clear the CIA guy had become "dangerous" to the agency after learning about the extent of U.S. bio warfare in Korea, which was likely extensive and involved the use of insect bombs and weaponized pathogens including smallpox and plague. CIA guy seemed to be having doubts about the program. Interestingly, the Chinese and the North Koreans had done elaborate defensive measures during the war in terms of battlefield gear and medical infrastructure because they didn't doubt the U.S. was hitting them with bioweapons.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/7811949/Did-the-US-wage-germ-warfare-in-Korea.html

North Korea's main military museum has some of the bombs and insects preserved on display. Tourists see this and doubt it, like they're seeing some fabrication, but it's very real and the North Koreans are telling the truth. There were perhaps hundreds of these attacks carried out on the North Korean civilian population by the U.S. military.

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
i can't figure out why dnd isn't a subforum of c-spam butt

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Postoyevsky posted:

the fact that aoc tweets multiple times an hour and hasn't said a peep about Venezuela is :thunk:

The opposition dude is a socdem (on paper).

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Plutonis posted:

The opposition dude is a socdem (on paper).

all the more reason he must be crushed with exteme prejudice

Serf
May 5, 2011


if the opposition party are socdems, what is maduro's party?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's purely derogatory. AFAIK nobody actually self-identifies as a Dengist.

I've seen exactly one, ever, and it was a guy who claimed the WV teachers strike was the move of petty booge class traitors

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I've seen exactly one, ever, and it was a guy who claimed the WV teachers strike was the move of petty booge class traitors

oh poo poo I remember that

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

gradenko_2000 posted:

oh poo poo I remember that

The decadent imperialist running dogs, teachers,

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I've seen exactly one, ever, and it was a guy who claimed the WV teachers strike was the move of petty booge class traitors

lmao, teachers are like explicitly identified as proletariat by Marx

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
That exchange is like, the only thing I regret not being able to find anymore after my old Twitter got suspended

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Serf posted:

if the opposition party are socdems, what is maduro's party?

socialist

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

That exchange is like, the only thing I regret not being able to find anymore after my old Twitter got suspended

Dengism failed to apply the lessons of Juche and is thus counter-revolutionary.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Tesseraction posted:

Dengism failed to apply the lessons of Juche and is thus counter-revolutionary.

Juche with dengist characteristics

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/PeopleRepellent/status/1088315598248046592

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Plutonis posted:

The opposition dude is a socdem (on paper).

ah so he's a social fascist

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

smarxist posted:

I think they're probably deliberating on the angle to take, I hope it's at least as strong as Lee The Lad's, but if it's not, do we just give her room to operate and breathe or start on with the ruthless critique of all that exists right away?

lol nah it's a pretty low bar. multiple other electeds have made statements already

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lmfao

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Serf posted:

if the opposition party are socdems, what is maduro's party?

A democratic socialist party in control of a rentier capitalist country according to Chavez

alsothere
Oct 14, 2014
Taco Defender
retweeted by aoc
https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1088302692001300480?s=19

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
that's lame.

Maduro won the election. There's nothing to negotiate.

Serf
May 5, 2011


https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1088573769243914240
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1088573770477027328
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1088573771395596293

THS
Sep 15, 2017

hmm would be nice to maybe mention years of economic warfare or how sanctions and aggression by the US caused a lot of banks and businesses to not deal with venezuela, making a bad situation worse

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
hahahahaha

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


Disappointing to say the least. Glad more people backed that kohana guys statement, tho I'm sure he's a weasel.

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
violent authoritarian strongman ...nicolas maduro

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lol

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
Horrible response by Sanders. Reminds me of 2003 when all the liberals who weren't evil enough to support the war still had to suck off the propaganda aspect of it by prefacing any criticism of the invasion with a long diatribe about how Saddam is a worse version of Hitler. Really takes the edge off the eventual piss-warm condemnation of military action. If you don't like Maduro then just say we shouldn't interfere in other countries and leave it at that.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1088500289563492353

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lmfao

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1088531713649713153?s=20

she’s good again

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

:bernin: Outmaneuvered on FP by Tulsi. :sad:

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