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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:nah, by design the ACA didn't extend the option of public health care to everyone, on the grounds that Obama thought that might have made the insurance companies work against it I get ya, the system we're talking about would just give Medicare/aid to anyone who didn't report already having private insurance
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Young Freud posted:I'm betting if his SotU rally happened with the National Day Of Action springing up, he would literally be in the center of a riot where he could be abandoned by the Secret Service to an angry mob. Somebody realized that. A SOTU in the House was already not going to happen based on Pelosi's letter today. Trump could just as easily have given the speech at a rally somewhere else, I think he's probably just looking at his week ahead and really not feeling making GBS threads out a 90 minute speech.
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Luckyellow posted:Why don't we just simply... don't tell them? Haha that was my original position until Main Painframe convinced me otherwise. The central problem is that if a super generous public plan drives private insurance out of business, that’s going to actually cause a lot of hardship and have ripple effects throughout the economy. After all you’re talking of tens of thousands of people losing their jobs, just for a start. In order for single payer to work, there must be things built in to help soften these effects. Which means discussing the fact that private insurance will be going away, and how we should best help assist in a smooth transition, must be part of the public conversation.
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Goffer posted:I would have thought doing it at a rally would be right up his ally. Frame it as presenting it to the people instead of the out of touch democratic elite or something sure but i doubt he has the security. like sure he would have his guards but if poo poo got bad, i wonder how many of these dudes would take a bullet/bottle for him especially with out pay.
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Jan 24, 2019 05:48
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Luckyellow posted:Why don't we just simply... don't tell them? My argument against this was that private insurance companies could ratfuck the government insurance plan by undercutting it, bribing providers to only take their insurance, or offering plans to employers and then you quit using the government plan because your employer already offers a plan.
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Jan 24, 2019 05:49
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Family Values posted:Older Xer here, we definitely didn’t get away with more sex stuff than the boomers. We were squarely in the ‘SEX=DEATH’ AIDS panic. Same here. Rise of the Christian Right and lots of homophobia are tied into the AIDS panic and those all re-enforce toxic masculinity? There's think pieces floating around about how toy and video game marketers, and especially with video games, specifically tried to link them to gender. Look at Gamer Gate and Nerd Culture now, minorities and women are starting to break through but it's completely packed with lovely men and that's not by accident.
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Jan 24, 2019 05:50
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Washington Post has a breaking news banner that Trumpvis postponing SOTU until the government is reopened, but the link goes to an old article.
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Strange Poon posted:Same here. Rise of the Christian Right and lots of homophobia are tied into the AIDS panic and those all re-enforce toxic masculinity? There's think pieces floating around about how toy and video game marketers, and especially with video games, specifically tried to link them to gender. Look at Gamer Gate and Nerd Culture now, minorities and women are starting to break through but it's completely packed with lovely men and that's not by accident. Gen-X is the instigators of '90s "edge", which would later spawn edgelords and shitlords.
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Jan 24, 2019 05:53
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Strange Poon posted:Same here. Rise of the Christian Right and lots of homophobia are tied into the AIDS panic and those all re-enforce toxic masculinity? There's think pieces floating around about how toy and video game marketers, and especially with video games, specifically tried to link them to gender. Look at Gamer Gate and Nerd Culture now, minorities and women are starting to break through but it's completely packed with lovely men and that's not by accident. i think the edgy 90s/early aughts was more of rebellious/edgy "gently caress you" against moral majority christian right culture then a direct outgrowth of it. they both drink at same spring of toxic masculity but they have different reasons and poo poo.
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Jan 24, 2019 05:57
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Like, no one needs to talk in hypotheticals, most countries have hybrids of private and public insurance. Single payer is extremely rare in the world. We can look how various systems work.
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Jan 24, 2019 05:58
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088289916826648577 Lock this particular plague out.
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1088222315006046209 Kiss my rear end John Kelly you worthless piece of poo poo.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:06
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Young Freud posted:Gen-X is the instigators of '90s "edge", which would later spawn edgelords and shitlords. mountain dew so EXTREME look at how EXPOSED my BALLS are
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Jan 24, 2019 06:07
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Have to say I'm a bit surprised Trump decided to cave on the SOTU. He must be exhausted or someone did a really good job convincing him because that's a timid as gently caress response to having the gauntlet thrown at him by a woman.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:T_D reacts "Meme wars"? The gently caress?
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Jan 24, 2019 06:16
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He is up It's always the dumbest loving poo poo.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Have to say I'm a bit surprised Trump decided to cave on the SOTU. He must be exhausted or someone did a really good job convincing him because that's a timid as gently caress response to having the gauntlet thrown at him by a woman. The headline has vanished from the WP so, I dunno what that was about. Edit: oh dummy id tweeting about it, nm
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Mr Interweb posted:WTF is this poo poo?? Biden still bad, so what? At least this news isn't him sexually assaulting people.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:18
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Like, no one needs to talk in hypotheticals, most countries have hybrids of private and public insurance. Single payer is extremely rare in the world. We can look how various systems work. But, as far as I know, there’s been no country that had ever proposed as generous a package as Bernie’s plan (which by the way I support). So private insurance could exist in those other countries.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:18
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I lost my kids in the meme wars. One minute it was Beep Beep I'm a Sheep and then some one Rick rolled them and I never saw them again.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:18
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:"Meme wars"? The gently caress?
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Jan 24, 2019 06:19
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Unzip and Attack posted:Have to say I'm a bit surprised Trump decided to cave on the SOTU. He must be exhausted or someone did a really good job convincing him because that's a timid as gently caress response to having the gauntlet thrown at him by a woman. Most likely he doesn't give a poo poo about doing scripted speeches that obviously bore him to death because they involve reading. One of the few things he hates more than EMAILS, taxes and short form birth certificates.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:20
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Unzip and Attack posted:Have to say I'm a bit surprised Trump decided to cave on the SOTU. He must be exhausted or someone did a really good job convincing him because that's a timid as gently caress response to having the gauntlet thrown at him by a woman. Me too. But the way these things normally work, Donny initially doesn't react much or at all, then explodes at a later date; usually on Twitter. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a poo poo fit tomorrow morning.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:20
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:"Meme wars"? The gently caress? He looked at a racist Pepe the frog meme and then voted for trump. None of these idiots are smart enough to make any of the Memes they post.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:21
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The complimenting the House is weird. I just picture a snivelling Mulvaney forcing Trump to watch a long puppet show where he explains that Congress is a co-equal branch of government.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:21
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:T_D posters unironically believe that their posting of Pepe memes in 2016 was what got Trump elected. They also unironically believe that this deserves to be called a "war" and that they should take pride for having "fought" in it. Are you trying to say you won the meme-wars, because obviously you didn't. The only way to win is to die before 2016.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:21
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I wonde if Trump isn’t doing his SOTU as a rally because he’s scared that the crowd might turn on him.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:30
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The way the Dems / Pelosi have boxed him in on this is loving masterful. They just keep letting him hang himself with his own stupidity. The Dems are showing more unity and discipline than they have at any other point in decades imo.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:30
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:"Meme wars"? The gently caress? General Kenobi,
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Cable Guy posted:
Because a lot of these people are boomers stubbornly feigning themselves into being stupid and helpless. You're explaining something very simple to people who are just brick walls.
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Grapplejack posted:There's zero chance he actually wrote that.  I eagerly await the actual tweets by Trump at 3am about how it's really his idea in the first place and Nancy Pelosi (who's a liar BTW) will be happy to host him because the state of the union is so bigly
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Comrade Fakename posted:I wonde if Trump isn’t doing his SOTU as a rally because he’s scared that the crowd might turn on him. I don't think he's capable of forming the thought that people don't like him
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Unzip and Attack posted:The way the Dems / Pelosi have boxed him in on this is loving masterful. They just keep letting him hang himself with his own stupidity. The Dems are showing more unity and discipline than they have at any other point in decades imo. It's really unbelievable how he can't let Pelosi have the last word. You just know her latest response is throwing him into a complete tantrum, I can't wait to see the stupid screeds he vomits tomorrow.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:33
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non-crazy composed tweet signalling a retreat AND no public events scheduled for tomorrow? He loving broke and they're playing for time in hopes that the president stops weeping and kicking the floor
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Jan 24, 2019 06:33
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Say what you will about Pelosi, but I'm gonna say if you didn't even think about smiling at the way she twisted the knife in him right here there might be something wrong with you.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:non-crazy composed tweet signalling a retreat AND no public events scheduled for tomorrow? Honestly at this point I'm wondering if the dementia has progressed far enough that they just tweet stuff to his account and then convince him that he wrote it later.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:36
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So, shutdown until 2020 or impeachment at this point? He's painted anything other than getting his wall as complete failure and everyone knows he'll pull this again next year whether or not they give him a year's funding.
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Xand_Man posted:Honestly at this point I'm wondering if the dementia has progressed far enough that they just tweet stuff to his account and then convince him that he wrote it later. If he likes the content/tone he'd claim it regardless.
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