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Charlz Guybon posted:What's up with that? “Bryan singer charged with rape” or “nurse rapes patient” seem like worse and less informative titles though? It seems like you’d need to start mangling sentences if you wanted to fit the whole summary and the word rape in every title.
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As a thought experiment, each state could pass a law that allows them to collect on federal taxes in place of the federal government in the case of a prolonged shutdown (so they can fund programs like food stamps, feed people in prisons, farm subsidies, etc.) but if we’re following modern monetary theory it would go straight to poo poo as the issuer of the currency effectively no longer exists. Also if every state went “every state for itself” California and the West coast would be pretty okay while WV and Kansas would be so hosed they’d probably just effectively cease to exist due to an extreme lack of funding to do drat near anything.
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Ripoff posted:As a thought experiment, each state could pass a law that allows them to collect on federal taxes in place of the federal government in the case of a prolonged shutdown (so they can fund programs like food stamps, feed people in prisons, farm subsidies, etc.) but if we’re following modern monetary theory it would go straight to poo poo as the issuer of the currency effectively no longer exists. Sure, let governors be in charge of taxes. This has never gone wrong! 
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This is generally really stupid what if'ing but the regions would be fairly predictable and you'd have all the poo poo states clinging to the nearest huge metro center. The really interesting discussions are the flyovers and the southeast. Like how many states attach to the I-85 corridor, or where the gently caress does like wyoming go? WV likely ends up in whatever megaopolis hell hole that emerges from the Ohio population centers, and then gradually fades away over the next half century.
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Jan 24, 2019 12:54
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Charlz Guybon posted:Wonder if Donnie is just doing this to stymie the investigation Literally said this on day 1, because this shutdown makes no sense. Aaaaaaaaaand he's digging in. With polls showing this was a hilariously bad idea. I'm not saying I ~believe~ it any more today than I did at the time, but we should all breath in just how stupid and corrupt this president is.
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Chilichimp posted:Literally said this on day 1, because this shutdown makes no sense. Aaaaaaaaaand he's digging in. With polls showing this was a hilariously bad idea. I'm not saying I ~believe~ it any more today than I did at the time, but we should all breath in just how stupid and corrupt this president is.
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People in this country get real loving stupid, I'd not be surprised if some alleged moderates start saying this is all the Dem's fault for not negotiating better. "Okay Donny we'll go in for wood slats, but only 20 feet high."
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Your wall can only be five feet tall, but it's a brain surgeon?
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FlamingLiberal posted:I do believe he thinks he’s winning this. He lives in a bubble where everyone tells him what he wants to hear all day.
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FizFashizzle posted:This is generally really stupid what if'ing but the regions would be fairly predictable and you'd have all the poo poo states clinging to the nearest huge metro center. Oh yeah this is stupid as hell to speculate since we’re running in 100% uncharted territory, I’m just saying that there are no scenarios where things work out to be okay if we were to let food stamp money run out. We’re all mega-hosed if it goes that far. That’s said yeah I have no idea what would happen to the people of Wyoming and the I-85 corridor states, I’d guess most of GA and Alabama would latch to Atlanta and that’s about it. Knowing the absolute little about Atlanta culture that I do, I can’t see the city warmly welcoming the chuds that helped Kemp cheat his way into office and who keep passing “religious freedom” laws hell-bent on making LGBTQ lives’ hell, along with their 200+ year history of treating PoC like poo poo.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Probably on their list of words that the higherups decided are downers and shouldn't be used. 'Racist' is another word that is conspicuously absent often I mean, our media has largely shifted to using the term "sexual assault" over "rape", which has the effect of reducing the perceived severity of the crime by conflating rape with lesser crimes like groping into a single term. Same thing with racist/racism/bigotry getting watered-down into more generic, less-impactful umbrella terms. Words have power and meaning and it's disturbing to see the shift happen.
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Cable Guy posted:
Because the assholes at the top of the Rep party screamed "death panels! Socialism!" when they got their kickback from the insurance industry and all the morons that listen to them started chanting the same without their neurons connecting to realize that's pretty much what we had. Republicans have a very large voting block that's pretty goddamned dumb, racist, and...well...when it comes to patriotism (actually nationalism) they rival the crowds like Stalin and the Kims from NK have in display
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feedmyleg posted:I mean, our media has largely shifted to using the term "sexual assault" over "rape", which has the effect of reducing the perceived severity of the crime by conflating rape with lesser crimes like groping into a single term. No, it's because "rape" normally meant penile penetration of a female (and only a female) by a male (and only a male), against her will. If you can't see any problems with the term, well, okay. "Sorry, miss, but the person who stuck that beer bottle in you didn't actually rape you.". While you call it "conflating rape with lesser crimes", you're ignoring all the equally serious forms of sexual violence that would *not* be called rape. Additionally there is the fact that "rape" is exactly as you point out, a semantically loaded term - accusing someone of rape has always been inflammatory, like lynching black men after accusing them of raping white women... I'm not exactly why it's crucial to keep the term "rape", therefore.
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ZobarStyl posted:I think the fact that even Rasmussen can't pull decent numbers out of this is going to break him. He's a senile, demented fool but he is hardwired to understand ratings, and his are in the shitter. He's going to do what he was always going to do; break and reopen the government, then tell the chuds that he actually won and the wall is coming. He's constantly lying about it being built and its effects, and the MAGA crowd buys it every time. Why would this time be any different? No one is left that can formulate even a faint no to him. He may sign something that ends the shutdown if its given to him because he doesn't read and it would be very easy to lie to him until its too late, he could be out vetoed. But he is a poo poo head that won't act until republicans start shifting without him because he has to be the CEO and the best president of all time, and he can't be a leader if the party moves without or specifically against his commands.
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Grapplejack posted:https://twitter.com/PeterSullivan4/status/1088167545859903489?s=19 I refuse to believe that he doesn't know what a goddamn patent is.
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KillHour posted:I refuse to believe that he doesn't know what a goddamn patent is.
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Jan 24, 2019 13:55
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KillHour posted:I refuse to believe that he doesn't know what a goddamn patent is. He doesn’t know what anything is.
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https://twitter.com/alsoconnor/status/1088307665564889088?s=20TheOneAndOnlyT posted:T_D posters unironically believe that their posting of Pepe memes in 2016 was what got Trump elected. They also unironically believe that this deserves to be called a "war" and that they should take pride for having "fought" in it. 
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TulliusCicero posted:Amazing that the CIA was able to help launch a coup in Venuzeula while the government was ostensibly shut down.
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KillHour posted:I refuse to believe that he doesn't know what a goddamn patent is. That isn't him being confused about what branding is (which would be trademark, if the drug has a generic the patent is expired) and more being flummoxed by the very idea that someone wouldn't be a cheap-rear end skinflint at every possible opportunity.
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Is it ethical to utilize non-vital services from federal workers who are not being paid for their work (even if they will eventually, fingers crossed, receive backpay)?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:“Bryan singer charged with rape” or “nurse rapes patient” seem like worse and less informative titles though? It seems like you’d need to start mangling sentences if you wanted to fit the whole summary and the word rape in every title. Also for the nurse arrest story, pretty much every news org from AP to local outlets didn’t use “rape” until later in the day after it was clear one of the charges the guy was arrested for was just that. For several hours yesterday, pretty much all news coverage was framed like that NBC tweet. Not saying there aren’t serious news editorial problems at NBC, I’m just not sure that tweet is a good example of it.
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i am the bird posted:Is it ethical to utilize non-vital services from federal workers who are not being paid for their work (even if they will eventually, fingers crossed, receive backpay)? We're doing it every day whether you realize it or not and the alternative is crashing the entire economy so I don't think we have the luxury of choosing not to. Everyone at this point is just in "hold your breath and hope you make it out of the burning building before you suffocate" mode.
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what the gently caress. chris...good?? also the idea that we should keep private insurance is stupid. like others said it allows the government to starve m4a in the future. the rich can just pay out of pocket if they want special treatment (like rand is doing at the hernia clinic in canada).
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Man, I wish meme wars had casualties.
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Ballz posted:Also for the nurse arrest story, pretty much every news org from AP to local outlets didn’t use “rape” until later in the day after it was clear one of the charges the guy was arrested for was just that. For several hours yesterday, pretty much all news coverage was framed like that NBC tweet. I think titles that have the word "sexual assault" instead of rape can be mealy mouth, but both titles in the example seemed like stuff where they gave a more specific detail of what happened where it'd be awkward to say like "nurse arrested for raping unconscious patient, also she got pregnant" and just using the word rape is less information like "nurse arrested for rape"
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088418271194464256 Ouch. "Bad lawyer." He's gonna need some aloe vera for that burn. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088426690164994048 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088429823561814017
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I cannot believe I live in a time where, "If there were no X, all crimes committed by X would have been prevented" is being trotted out as a serious argument. It's Nazi talk right on it's face. Like yes, some undocumented immigrants commit crimes, just as they get jobs, pay taxes, marry, contribute to GDP and more. If white people weren't allowed to be CEOs, 100% of financial crimes committed by white CEOs could be prevented.
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How has North Korea been "taking us to the cleaners?"  Your Taint posted:Ouch. "Bad lawyer." He's gonna need some aloe vera for that burn. Dude, you hired him first. He was your personal lawyer.
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Mendrian posted:I cannot believe I live in a time where, "If there were no X, all crimes committed by X would have been prevented" is being trotted out as a serious argument. It's Nazi talk right on it's face. it's because nothing they do is in good faith. it's like cuomo said - eliminating or reducing poverty would have a massive effect on crime. if you banned guns our homicide and suicide rate would drop precipitously. weirdly they don't want to do either and actively exacerbate those issues. (not to mention that undocumented immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than citizens.) https://twitter.com/shotchaser/status/1088339701298278400
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Your Taint posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088418271194464256 Wait, was he anticipating we were going to go to war with NK?? I was half expecting him to confirm the nuke alert false alarm in Hawaii was a real nuke they shot down and covered up.
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KickerOfMice posted:How has North Korea been "taking us to the cleaners?" Whatever “major war” was about to start was 100% Trump’s own creation too
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"Rockets or M's" lmao
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What the gently caress, Chris, why can't you be like this 100% of the time?? I just stared in awe at that clip for the entirety of its duration. I'm still in shock. What the gently caress.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Wait, was he anticipating we were going to go to war with NK?? I was half expecting him to confirm the nuke alert false alarm in Hawaii was a real nuke they shot down and covered up. During the transition, Obama told him North Korea was the number one biggest threat if left unaddressed to continue its missile development. So of course Trump took that to mean Obama was about to go to war with them.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:What the gently caress, Chris, why can't you be like this 100% of the time?? Maybe AOC's managed to teach some liberals how to un-learn their helplessness.
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