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rgocs posted:Fox, Calderon and Peña, the three Stooges, deviated from the historical non-intervention policy, yes. AMLO and Ebrard just went back to what Mexico's policy had been before them. So you're fine with them letting Maduro be, just because it was tradition?
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he should prepare an invasion together with trump and bolsonaro
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:So you're fine with them letting Maduro be, just because it was tradition?
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I heard he doesn't get involved in internal US matters either. https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/1082994395090219008
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https://twitter.com/RWhelanWSJ/status/1083872442630660096?s=19 This guy links a bunch of pretty interesting articles in English about Mexico and Latin America. https://twitter.com/RWhelanWSJ/status/1083838021462458368?s=19
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:https://twitter.com/RWhelanWSJ/status/1083872442630660096?s=19 https://twitter.com/RWhelanWSJ/status/1083878314853298176 Most of the thread already saw how transparent and full of poo poo you are. At least put more effort in your posts before coming here and posting all the negative AMLO notes you find
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I mean, I was just sharing those articles because they were relevant to the discussion we were having and I thought it was interesting to read opinions from people outside the country, whether you want to check them or not is your call. 
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Just asking questions!
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AMLO isn’t going to make fun of Maduros education nor has he come out for regime change so he must be very much in love with Maduro hmmm are they brothers?
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Betrayed stellar examples of Latin American democracies such as Brazil
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I mean, I was just sharing those articles because they were relevant to the discussion we were having and I thought it was interesting to read opinions from people outside the country, whether you want to check them or not is your call. The story you posted contains half truths. Of course the import volume will decrease once storage capacity is full and the ability to evacuate fuel from the Veracruz to the center of the country by pipes is not operational. So far this path of action has caused difficulties yeah, but also it has also brought to light the magnitude of what was being stolen and diverted both by PEMEX, government officials and actual fuel thiefs. It'll take some more time to be able to tell whether doing all of this was worth it or not.
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Freezer posted:The story you posted contains half truths. Of course the import volume will decrease once storage capacity is full and the ability to evacuate fuel from the Veracruz to the center of the country by pipes is not operational. The article is acknowledging all of that and is what the twitter guy was clarifying in its following tweet. Here's a link to it for discussions sake That said, the question now is if the reduction on fuel importations was a decision taken as part of AMLO's strategy to fight huachicoleo or if is a decision taken before that and thus, (mostly) unrelated to said strategy.
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Welp https://twitter.com/RWhelanWSJ/status/1084184054864535557?s=19
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You as a latin american know 100% full well that him saying "no son serias" does not mean "Ah, they're not serious", and the real translation would be something more like "they cannot be taken seriously" (i.e. "they're fooling us", "they've been done incompetently", "they're taking the piss", etc etc). It might sound like a small difference but I know you're fully aware of how it changes the headline and you're being disingenuous here. This is without me taking any sort of stance on AMLO at all - you're clearly presenting a distorted interpretation of his speech.
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Pochoclo posted:You as a latin american know 100% full well that him saying "no son serias" does not mean "Ah, they're not serious", and the real translation would be something more like "they cannot be taken seriously" (i.e. "they're fooling us", "they've been done incompetently", "they're taking the piss", etc etc). It might sound like a small difference but I know you're fully aware of how it changes the headline and you're being disingenuous here. If you're familiar with AMLO then you'll know he means both when he dismisses information (regardless of the source) not aligned with his agenda. That's why fifi has become a meme in social media here.
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Here you go buddy, from notable left wing bastion El Financiero Bloomberg. To non-Spanish speakers, apologies for the inconveniences. The amount of disinformation on social media is pissing me off (WhatsApp groups being the absolute worst offender, naturally).
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Queue DT saying this was all AMLO's fault
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Shibawanko posted:Queue DT saying this was all AMLO's fault the amlo-maduro axis of evil is responsible for this
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He'll get to the bottom of this with his ground penetrating radar.
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Son of Brazil's new president, Flavio Bolsonaro, blinked and leaned on the Supreme Court, getting them to junk a corruption probe into one of his staffers. Said staffer was a driver who mysteriously had 1.2 million bucks flow through his account last year and made dozens of bank deposits back into the Bolsonaro family's accounts*. The Supreme Court, being historically a bunch of robed coward rubber-stamping whatever autocrat loon is on the rise, granted it without a peep. So while technically a win, it also looks -terrible- for a government that supposedly came to power to fight corruption. Sure, they are trying to shift the focus and say that "fighting leftism is more important than battling corruption", and for a big chunk of their chud base that wrks, but a significant chunk of backers really did expect honesty (willingly ignoring 27 years of Bolsie's small-time crook antics in congress), because after all, only commies are corrupt, you know! *: To clarify this, let me explain the most basic form of legislative corruption in Brazil. Each congressperson has a staff budget to hire staffers and such. A very common scam is to hire a bunch of friends or even nobodies for $10k a month, then have them send you back $5-8k each month (the percentage depending on how ravenous you are), while never showing up to work. You increase you gains tenfold, they get a nice chunk of cash for nothing.
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A terrible situation happened a couple of hours ago. A Pemex pipeline in the state of Hidalgo suffered a leak around 6 pm. today and people from the vicinity took the chance to collect all the spilled fuel and unfortunately, the pipeline exploded an hour or so ago. So far Hidalgo's government has reported 20 casualties and more than 70 wounded. https://twitter.com/revistaproceso/status/1086457910501277696?s=19 If any of you want to look for more info about it, be warned that people are uploading videos and pictures of sensitive nature all over Twitter and Facebook.
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On one hand, that's horrible. On the other hand, pero que pendejos!
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Yikes. That was not a smart move, but desperate people take desperate measures I guess.
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People were bathing and frolicking with the fuel.
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Conspiratiorist posted:People were bathing and frolicking with the fuel.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Yikes. That was not a smart move, but desperate people take desperate measures I guess. This is AMLO's explanation for the Army's lack of action before the explosion. Translation mine. Milenio posted:El presidente Andrés Manuel López Obrador reconoció que “no existe una orden sino que es una política” de este gobierno que los elementos de seguridad no actúen en contra de aquellos pobladores que “se ven obligados a cometer ilícitos”, pues su plan para acabar con el robo de combustible “no es policiaco ni militar” sino atendiendo las causas. Bajo esta política, los elementos de las fuerzas armadas no reaccionaron ayer en contra de quienes robaban el combustible en Tlahuelilpan, Hidalgo, que desembocó en una explosión que hasta ahora dejó 66 muertos y 76 heridos. Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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Some army and police were there already, but the reports state that the people that arrived to collect the gas greatly outnumbered them and they were not able to stop them. http://www.milenio.com/estados/pemex-recolectaban-combustible-hidalgo-militares-video
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Cup Runneth Over posted:It probably would have been wise to cordon off the area for safety reasons, but considering the noise some people have made about the existence of that military force I don't blame him for not wanting a clash Especially because huachicoleros almost lynched some soldiers last week. https://www.reporteindigo.com/reporte/reportan-intento-de-linchamiento-de-militares-en-zona-huachicolera-de-hidalgo-video-fotos/ https://www.jornada.com.mx/ultimas/2019/01/13/retienen-y-amagan-con-linchar-a-tres-militares-en-hidalgo-9397.html I think the army did the right thing given their situation.
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nerdz posted:what the hell is going on in venezuela right now? is it happening? so soon? If China is extracting oil from the country with the biggest oil reserves in the world as payment for all that money borrowed, you bet your rear end the US has something to say in the matter.
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nerdz posted:what the hell is going on in venezuela right now? is it happening? so soon? A coordinated effort between the US government and Venezuelan reactionaries to stage a coup.
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Shibawanko posted:A coordinated effort between the US government and Venezuelan reactionaries to stage a coup. No it is not. Maduro is the one who staged the coup several years ago by ignoring the results of a general election that went against his party by unconstitutionally creating a new legislative branch and continuing his policy of eating empanadas from a desk drawer while his cronies steal everything they can. There's seriously a whole thread in D&D about this.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:No it is not. Maduro is the one who staged the coup several years ago by ignoring the results of a general election that went against his party by unconstitutionally creating a new legislative branch and continuing his policy of eating empanadas from a desk drawer while his cronies steal everything they can. There's seriously a whole thread in D&D about this. Let me tell you about American imperialism. 
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:No it is not. Maduro is the one who staged the coup several years ago by ignoring the results of a general election that went against his party by unconstitutionally creating a new legislative branch and continuing his policy of eating empanadas from a desk drawer while his cronies steal everything they can. There's seriously a whole thread in D&D about this. Aahehahahaehahahahahaehahaehaehaehaehaeheaheahaehaehaehaeha (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Coups suck, but so does Maduro. US Imperialism is bad too, but at this point in history plenty of people should be aware that crying imperialism should not give you a free pass to do anything. I think both the Cold War and its aftermath have proved as much.
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Plutonis posted:Aahehahahaehahahahahaehahaehaehaehaehaeheaheahaehaehaehaeha way to elevate the discussion, jackass It's not particularly clear to me whether "the presidency is vacant because Maduro rigged the election and fabricated a parallel legislature" is more constitutionally valid than "Maduro is president forever because there is no remedy specified in the constitution for violations of the constitution at this level", but that just means it's a constitutional crisis initiated by exactly the events in the post you 'responded' to. fortunately, the Supreme Court is dominated by Maduro flunkies
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