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nwin posted:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426824-schumer-blocks-bill-to-pay-coast-guard This only gets us paid while the rest of the not getting paid part of the government is still not getting paid.
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ElMaligno posted:This only gets us paid while the rest of the not getting paid part of the government is still not getting paid. I understand the bill. I’m questioning Schumer’s blocking of the bill.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:46
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Probably because it's a principle thing. Republicans don't get to pick and choose what parts they get to open, because if they did that then they'll tell everyone else to get hosed forever.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:49
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nwin posted:I understand the bill. I’m questioning Schumer’s blocking of the bill. He wants to have everyone paid. It’s a lovely thing to do but fair.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:49
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/instagram-dick-running I think I've been inspired to make a 10 mile long dick via a bike ride on Strava this Spring. https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1088513396834742273 
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Jan 24, 2019 22:52
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https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1088550753185222657 Your favorite president (me) has just signed an executive order. The Democrat Party has been outlawed. Bombing of Cryin' Chuck and Nancy Pelosi, or Nancy as I call her, begins in ten minutes. God bless America!
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Jan 24, 2019 22:54
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https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1088552306906484738 "Large down payment." What a loving crock.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:56
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i'm just imagining chuck calling nancy and her shouting across the room into the phone GET A DOWN PAYMENT ON DEEZ NUTS and some aide being all 'unfortunately the speaker cannot agree to this arrangement at this time'
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Jan 24, 2019 23:03
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LingcodKilla posted:He wants to have everyone paid. It’s a lovely thing to do but fair. Does he not understand that junior enlisted, or really anyone for that matter, currently deployed, can’t just start looking for another job? I don’t agree with what you think he wants. To me it just seems like more posturing. I’m obviously biased, and I know trump/republicans started this mess, but now it seems like both parties are at an impasse, with neither side willing to negotiate. Trump won’t do a thing without his loving wall, and the Democrats won’t give it to him.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:05
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Yeah civilians with mortgages should go eat poo poo I guess.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:07
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Once piecemeal bills go through shutdowns will happen longer and more often. Likewise using a shutdown as a bargaining chip to successfully get concessions will ensure that it is used again to get concessions later.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:09
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Don’t negotiate with terrorists n stuff.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:09
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Nick Soapdish posted:
This sentence does not include a joke: Trump wanted to talk to the media about his FART act, which has no chance of passing Congress. https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1088556026318802944?s=19
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Jan 24, 2019 23:10
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If you fund things piecemeal, the GOP is absolutely going to shut down the government and only fund what they want. If you give Trump his wall (because he wants something tangible as a legacy), he's going to keep playing hostage negotiation for things. One of the notable Republican defections is Johnny Isakson from Georgia. Isakson is an older GOP dude, sort of the John Boehner type. He sees the writing on the wall because if this shutdown continues, the Atlanta airport is going to be affected and Delta is going to have his head piked in their boardroom. The GOP is going to cave on this before Trump will.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:10
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LingcodKilla posted:Yeah civilians with mortgages should go eat poo poo I guess. But can they go look/get another job? I’m thinking about an E-5 that just signed another 6-year contract. For them, they’re completely hosed/stuck. I’m not saying it would be easy or that civilians should have to look for another job, but it would be easier for them, wouldn’t it? If the coast guard was under the DoD, this wouldn’t be an issue. Similarly, imagine how up in arms every single military branch would be right now if the bill to pay them hadn’t been passed. Edit: What That Works posted makes sense. nwin fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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Jan 24, 2019 23:11
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The military would be pissed. Misters Booz, Allen, Hamilton, Boeing, and Raytheon would return 3/4 of Congress within a few hours with visible bite wounds and drool.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:13
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nwin posted:Does he not understand that junior enlisted, or really anyone for that matter, currently deployed, can’t just start looking for another job? You can't legitimize hostage taking behavior here.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:14
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redneck nazgul posted:If you fund things piecemeal, the GOP is absolutely going to shut down the government and only fund what they want. There need to be 14 more republican defectors before anything real happens.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:16
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nwin posted:Does he not understand that junior enlisted, or really anyone for that matter, currently deployed, can’t just start looking for another job? Democrats are in the "don't negotiate with terrorists" situation. If the Pissbaby In Chief gets anything for this shutdown, what is he going to want for the next one?
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Jan 24, 2019 23:18
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If the DoD was in this situation you would legit melt the economy down. The MIC is tens of millions of jobs, stretching far beyond the beltway into just about every area of the country. Like it or not they're a colossal employer, directly or indirectly.redneck nazgul posted:The military would be pissed. Booz has ~40% of their portfolio right now just sitting with their thumbs up their asses. That's like ~4.5bn out in the wind. They're paying everyone out of the shutdown slush fund for now.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:20
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don't negotiate with terrorists, open the f*cking government, then talk about pissbaby's stupid wall.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:20
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Mr. Nice! posted:There need to be 14 more republican defectors before anything real happens. The longer this goes on, the worse it's gonna be for the donor class. At the point where you have 60+ votes in the Senate, you're facing impeachment trial balloons.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:20
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redneck nazgul posted:The longer this goes on, the worse it's gonna be for the donor class. That might honestly be when the shutdown ends.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:22
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nwin posted:But can they go look/get another job? I’m thinking about an E-5 that just signed another 6-year contract. For them, they’re completely hosed/stuck. To address your question, finding another job is technically feasible but the reality is horribly complicated, especially when you consider that the federal jobs process is so horribly hosed up that it took them months to get the jobs they currently have.
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nwin posted:But can they go look/get another job? I’m thinking about an E-5 that just signed another 6-year contract. For them, they’re completely hosed/stuck. Thanks. I mean it's all bullshit, and some people are more painfully hosed than others. I stood to lose a lot sort of delayed in effect because of a shutdown this long but DHHS stopgapped a lot of funding for NIH that didn't gently caress me over like it did in the sequestration shutdown. It all loving sucks and we need some pretty radical change to prevent shutdowns from happening period or if they do it means administrations get dissolved etc.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:28
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Jan 24, 2019 23:35
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Trump started bullshitting about wanting a down payment and Pelosi already said no. So here we are: https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1088565106089316353?s=19
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Jan 24, 2019 23:38
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facialimpediment posted:This sentence does not include a joke: Trump wanted to talk to the media about his FART act, which has no chance of passing Congress. Wait what oh god my brain
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Jan 24, 2019 23:42
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https://www.npr.org/2019/01/24/688133135/italy-ordered-to-pay-damages-to-amanda-knox Italy has been ordered to pay $21,000 in damages for manufacturing and destroying evidence, as well as the physical and psychological abuse and torture they put a 20 year old student (who didn't speak the language more than a passing understanding) through during their interrogation, in which she wasn't even given a lawyer. That's $21,000. Not $210,000, and definitely not $2,000,000. They literally had the DNA and footprint evidence to convict the actual murderer two weeks after the act, but they had already turned it into an international incident and couldn't lose face.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:43
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Guess big strong daddy trump is prepping an emergency declaration for his stupid loving wall.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:48
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:https://www.npr.org/2019/01/24/688133135/italy-ordered-to-pay-damages-to-amanda-knox Italy is a loving joke.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:50
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Casimir Radon posted:The prosecutor is a loving clown. A few years before this happened 48 Hours or something had a thing about the "Florence Monster" serial killer. Same prosecutor was in charge. He blamed the killings on Satanists based on a supposed satanic artifact found at one of the scenes. A journalist demonstrated that the object was just an antique doorstop and showed off a similar one he'd purchased at a flea market. So the prosecutor had him arrested for being part of the conspiracy. He was also blatantly writing a book about the investigation while still in the process. Are they still prosecuting scientists over earthquakes?
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Jan 24, 2019 23:52
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Sister is a coastie (reserve) and getting called in to drill without pay this weekend.  she's on the shut down the coast guard you fuckman if only a wall stops drugs and immigrants bandwagon.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:52
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on the plus side maybe we'll actually see some kind of law made that says there's an automatic CR at previous funding until new funding can be agreed upon lmao who am i kidding the democrats don't want to give up that potential weapon either probably
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Jan 24, 2019 23:55
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:https://www.npr.org/2019/01/24/688133135/italy-ordered-to-pay-damages-to-amanda-knox If I understand it right she didn't sue for damages and the $21k is the lawyer's fees? This "just" overturns everything and finds Italy at fault?
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Vasudus posted:on the plus side maybe we'll actually see some kind of law made that says there's an automatic CR at previous funding until new funding can be agreed upon 
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Jan 24, 2019 23:57
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Casimir Radon posted:A journalist demonstrated that the object was just an antique doorstop and showed off a similar one he'd purchased at a flea market. So the prosecutor had him arrested for being part of the conspiracy That's uh, kinda hilarious 
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Jan 24, 2019 23:58
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I wish that Trump was slated to deliver the commencement at the coast guard academy this year.
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Jan 25, 2019 00:02
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I saw ~250 new posts and said "oh no what happened" and then I got to the part of the thread where people started talking about video game consoles and said "OH NO"
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I really just kinda want the big reveal to be that GDP shrunk this quarter because of the shutdown. Unfortunately that'll probably require the shutdown to keep going for most of february and that's real lovely.
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